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While searching for the Pulsar GD400BN, 4000W Portable super-quiet Dual Fuel, I came across this discount on a pretty decent 2.2Kw dual fuel unit at WallyWorld.
Pulsar 2200W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator, $419 It's regularly $479 at WalMart and currently $479 on Amazon with a 5% off coupon. It has a 4.5/5 rating on Amazon and seems to be a good price for a dual fuel unit. |
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Has anyone bought the Predator 5000 yet and tried to run it on natural gas?
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Originally Posted By 462W1: Saw this in another group I'm in. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/404078/Predator_gen_coupon_jpg-3120202.JPG View Quote saw that, I guess it's time to buy one. |
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I ordered a Pulsar GD400BN dual fuel genny yesterday for $569 with a $30 off coupon on Amazon. I missed the sale last week for $509, but figure it's still pretty reasonable. Rated for 3200W continuous on gasoline, 3000 on propane. I intend to run only propane and replace my 3 year old AiPower SUA2000id dual fuel 2K unit. The Pulsar will parallel with my old Predator 3500 converted to trifuel, running on natural gas.
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Originally Posted By draver: While searching for the Pulsar GD400BN, 4000W Portable super-quiet Dual Fuel, I came across this discount on a pretty decent 2.2Kw dual fuel unit at WallyWorld. Pulsar 2200W Dual Fuel Inverter Generator, $419 It's regularly $479 at WalMart and currently $479 on Amazon with a 5% off coupon. It has a 4.5/5 rating on Amazon and seems to be a good price for a dual fuel unit. View Quote Amazon is now matching the Wally World price on that generator. |
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Anyone have a link for a Predator 2K inverter carburetor? Mine I let get gummed up and want a spare while I tear it apart.
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Originally Posted By zoe17: Anyone have a link for a Predator 2K inverter carburetor? Mine I let get gummed up and want a spare while I tear it apart. View Quote I had to call Harbor Freight for a part for a different kind of tool and they were super helpful. They have exploded diagrams with part numbers on their website, so you could probably get it direct from them. |
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I changed oil and spark plug, it fired right up. Carb seems fine, I did a 2 hour load test with a 1500 watt space heater, starts with 2-3 pulls now. Was using Pri-G, Stabil marine and some Seafoam.
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I don't have a good sense of the power these are putting out. What all could you run on one inverter generator?
As a kid, the old style we would run intermittently through the day to power the fridge and some lights and the well pump. |
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Originally Posted By Tao: I don't have a good sense of the power these are putting out. What all could you run on one inverter generator? As a kid, the old style we would run intermittently through the day to power the fridge and some lights and the well pump. View Quote The power output doesn't change just because it's an inverter generator. You can get them in all sorts of sizes similar to "traditional" generators. If you have a 2000W inverter and 2000W traditional generator they will both be able to make 2000W because that's what they're built for (sort of, many 2kW generators are really rated for about 1800W continuous, 2kW peak for when motors start up). When both are at full power they will probably sound about the same and use about the same fuel amount too. The big difference is that at half load the traditional one still has to run at full speed to make the correct voltage and frequency. The inverter one can idle down a bit however, making it quieter and more fuel efficient. For sizing look at the items you actually want to run at the same time and add together their wattage ratings. Modern LED lights are almost negligible unless you have dozens of them - a "60W equivalent" bulb only draws about 6 or 7W these days. Generally anything to do with large motors (like well pumps) or HVACR (heating, ventilation, air conditioning, or refrigeration) will be your largest loads. How much of that do YOU feel you actually need to power during power outages that are likely in your area (i.e. is your area likely to be down for hours or weeks, and during summer storms or winter ice). Also check if any of your "must have" devices are 240V as that will up the size and price generally. |
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Originally Posted By draver: I ordered a Pulsar GD400BN dual fuel genny yesterday for $569 with a $30 off coupon on Amazon. I missed the sale last week for $509, but figure it's still pretty reasonable. Rated for 3200W continuous on gasoline, 3000 on propane. I intend to run only propane and replace my 3 year old AiPower SUA2000id dual fuel 2K unit. The Pulsar will parallel with my old Predator 3500 converted to trifuel, running on natural gas. View Quote FYI that 4000W dual fuel Pulsar generator is now down to $499 shipped free (from a third party seller) on Amazon. |
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Bumping this thread, as FL sales tax holiday for hurricane supplies starts tomorrow. I've rolled the dice without a genny for over 20 years, but looking to finally pull the trigger this year.
Where's the latest and greatest deals Arfcom? Looking for something in the 2000-3500W range. |
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Originally Posted By Anti_Russian: I learned about those while googling 'better parts and upgrades' for my HF 800-Watt generator that I had to try to start (wouldn't start) at midnight a few days ago after the power went out from Irma. I think you made a wise choice. I was forced to try to make this little, LITTLE generator power my kitchen refrigerator/freezer despite it only saying it was good for a mini-frdige, lol. It worked! (only after getting through the issues of the spark plug wire having degraded from 2012, and fuel issues from the carb's float bowl being loose from the initial break-in and occasional runnings). https://i.imgur.com/vHSEzIv.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/SD5YBgG.jpg?1 View Quote I've had one for years ran all kinds of low draw stuff I'm pretty sure i ran two fridges before with it it's Ben awhile it might have Ben a small freezer and fridge I slightly upgraded to a 2000 inverter but I'll keep using it |
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Originally Posted By Baddy: Where's the latest and greatest deals Arfcom? Looking for something in the 2000-3500W range. View Quote https://www.ebay.com/itm/314644637511 This was posted a while back in the thread and I picked one up for my parents. It just ran 28 hours powering their home after storm damage. Data point of one and limited usage, but it was a trooper. Right at 12 hours on a 15 pound propane bottle. Ran 8000btu window A/C, three fridge/freezers, ceiling fans, lights, computer, TV. Had to start the A/C and fridges sequentially as it couldn't handle the startup load on all of them simultaneously. I suspected that either the water pump or microwave would trigger an overload so didn't try either one. Whole house was connected with bridged hots so a few little loads in there also like clocks, night lights, phone chargers etc. Electric start was a plus. The oil drain could be easier, but we managed. It has built-in wheels and a handle if you have a smooth surface to move it around, but the wheels aren't good for rough terrain. It's a little heavy for my back to manhandle it solo. I'm going to put together a generator cord with a cheap ammeter on the cord so I can easily monitor power usage. https://www.ebay.com/itm/313965563309 This one is very similar, $100 less and 3200p/2900w instead of 4000p/3200w. |
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly: 15% off Predator Generators until June 9th https://images.harborfreight.com/hftweb/weblanding/coupon-deals/images/2024/limited-edition-coupons/E-ABR183192_66897536_305x420.png View Quote View Quote Thanks. Somehow I missed the HF deal and I had just been on their site looking. |
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Hat tip to.... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Outdoors/Picking-a-generator/17-707166/#i12139838 Originally Posted By gogetumnow: On sale $299 no tax no shipping for the non carb 4000 watt Wen inverter generator on their webiste. Here View Quote That's a great deal. Open frame, so slightly louder. Pull start not electric. Not dual-fuel, just gasoline. And heavier, if what you're really wanting is one of the little ~40 pound 2000ish watt units. |
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If I get the HF 9500 inverter generator, would that allow us to use the house with single central AC plus other minimal appliances (wouldn't use electric stove during power outage) as we normally would?
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Originally Posted By Gamma762: @Baddy Hat tip to.... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Outdoors/Picking-a-generator/17-707166/#i12139838 That's a great deal. Open frame, so slightly louder. Pull start not electric. Not dual-fuel, just gasoline. And heavier, if what you're really wanting is one of the little ~40 pound 2000ish watt units. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Tao: If I get the HF 9500 inverter generator, would that allow us to use the house with single central AC plus other minimal appliances (wouldn't use electric stove during power outage) as we normally would? View Quote That generator is 7600 watts constant. That’s only 31.6 amps. Depends on your A/C specs for compressor and fan plus the internal blower motor. Just finished shopping whole house generators for a friend. She is getting 26,000watts/26kw running on natural gas for an output of 87 amps. |
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https://www.harborfreight.com/collections/parking-lot-sale-itc-early-access/3500-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-co-secure-technology-59137.html
So it looks like the insider track club gets me the best price, since it can’t be combined with any coupons. Thoughts? |
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Originally Posted By Soxfan: https://www.harborfreight.com/collections/parking-lot-sale-itc-early-access/3500-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-co-secure-technology-59137.html So it looks like the insider track club gets me the best price, since it can’t be combined with any coupons. Thoughts? View Quote I bought that inverter 2 weeks ago after the tornado in NE OK. Ran a fridge, 15kBTU window unit, tv, fan, internet, and lamp no problem. Started on the first pull. They come low on oil, so get a quart on the way home and also the battery is not hooked up. I really like it. My only complaint is there is no fuel shutoff so to drain the carb for storage you have to drain the tank. |
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Originally Posted By Soxfan: https://www.harborfreight.com/collections/parking-lot-sale-itc-early-access/3500-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-co-secure-technology-59137.html So it looks like the insider track club gets me the best price, since it can’t be combined with any coupons. Thoughts? View Quote The Firman from their store on ebay is less expensive, dual fuel, and slightly higher wattage. Or the Wen I posted yesterday is half the price, if you can handle the pull start. |
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Going to pickup the 9500w eu7000is clone on Sunday.
It’s nearly 300 pounds. Gonna take some effort to lift it out of the truck |
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Originally Posted By Gamma762: The Firman from their store on ebay is less expensive, dual fuel, and slightly higher wattage. The Predator has a backup pull start. Or the Wen I posted yesterday is half the price, if you can handle the pull start. View Quote Start looking for discount coupons in the Firman eBay store in about 3 weeks. Check daily. There's likely to be an Independence Day sale. |
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Tax holiday for hurricane preps in Florida, plus HF 15% coupon, plus them ringing it up wrong, means I got the 9500 for ~$1600 out the door.
Now to figure out how to make it play nice with the 7kw rooftop solar setup that came with this new house. Originally Posted By rtlm: I used atv ramps to unload from my truck bed. View Quote Exactly how I did it, and made a pulley system out of ratchet straps to ease it down the ramp by myself. Easy enough. |
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Originally Posted By Tao: Tax holiday for hurricane preps in Florida, plus HF 15% coupon, plus them ringing it up wrong, means I got the 9500 for ~$1600 out the door. Now to figure out how to make it play nice with the 7kw rooftop solar setup that came with this new house. Exactly how I did it, and made a pulley system out of ratchet straps to ease it down the ramp by myself. Easy enough. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tao: Tax holiday for hurricane preps in Florida, plus HF 15% coupon, plus them ringing it up wrong, means I got the 9500 for ~$1600 out the door. Now to figure out how to make it play nice with the 7kw rooftop solar setup that came with this new house. Originally Posted By rtlm: I used atv ramps to unload from my truck bed. Exactly how I did it, and made a pulley system out of ratchet straps to ease it down the ramp by myself. Easy enough. Same, works great for the man who works alone. |
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Originally Posted By Tao: Tax holiday for hurricane preps in Florida, plus HF 15% coupon, plus them ringing it up wrong, means I got the 9500 for ~$1600 out the door. Now to figure out how to make it play nice with the 7kw rooftop solar setup that came with this new house. Exactly how I did it, and made a pulley system out of ratchet straps to ease it down the ramp by myself. Easy enough. View Quote If your system is grid tied(solar). You'll loose your system along with your electricity provided by your energy company. We have a 12kWh system and loose ours when the power goes out. The solar company provided a 1500w max outlet on the side of the house by the inverters. |
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Wound up picking up the HF Predator 3500 this morning. $629 with their parking lot sale, plus tax-free for the FL for hurricane prep tax holiday.
Seemed like that was about the best deal around right now for a unit with a good rep. Fired it up already and ran for 30 minutes, happy with the performance and noise level. |
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Any thoughts on a 30 amp vs 50 amp panel transfer interlock? I am putting one and thinking that bigger is better. This is for a 7000 watt to be purchased next. I need to run a well, freezer, fridge, internet, few outlets and the AC would be nice. Have gas and will want to fun that in the winter.
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Originally Posted By Trout_Hunter: Any thoughts on a 30 amp vs 50 amp panel transfer interlock? I am putting one and thinking that bigger is better. This is for a 7000 watt to be purchased next. I need to run a well, freezer, fridge, internet, few outlets and the AC would be nice. Have gas and will want to fun that in the winter. View Quote I did a 30amp which is supposed to be good to 7200w. A 50amp will need a heavier gauge wire and the sort of genny that would be appropriate for that STILL wouldn’t run the central A/C So, fork it, 30amp |
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Originally Posted By danpass: I did a 30amp which is supposed to be good to 7200w. A 50amp will need a heavier gauge wire and the sort of genny that would be appropriate for that STILL wouldn’t run the central A/C So, fork it, 30amp View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By danpass: Originally Posted By Trout_Hunter: Any thoughts on a 30 amp vs 50 amp panel transfer interlock? I am putting one and thinking that bigger is better. This is for a 7000 watt to be purchased next. I need to run a well, freezer, fridge, internet, few outlets and the AC would be nice. Have gas and will want to fun that in the winter. I did a 30amp which is supposed to be good to 7200w. A 50amp will need a heavier gauge wire and the sort of genny that would be appropriate for that STILL wouldn’t run the central A/C So, fork it, 30amp After crunching the numbers I generally advise to get a 50, reason being, that with paralleled inverter generators in a bridged 120v setup it would be very easy to significantly overload a 30 amp neutral which doesn't have a breaker. It wouldn't be the worst idea to upsize the neutral wire on a generator input even with a 50... IIRC two 4000w generators in parallel (or an 8000w) in bridged 120 could put 67 amps on the neutral. |
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Thanks for the responses. I am not sure what I need to look for in a generator with a 50 vs a 30 amp. Do I need a different plug than what most generators come with?
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Originally Posted By Trout_Hunter: Thanks for the responses. I am not sure what I need to look for in a generator with a 50 vs a 30 amp. Do I need a different plug than what most generators come with? View Quote The plug configuration are different between the 30 and 50 amps. This prevents someone from plugging in a 50 amp generator into a box that’s only rated for 30 amps. The female portion of a 30 amp cord is usually L14-30R. A 50 is usually SS2-50R. |
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You can buy adapters from 50-30A.
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I survived the cockpocalypse of 11/21/2012.
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Is my 4550 dead? Haven't used it in a year. Tried to start. No start. I had some gas with stabilizer in it. Only a hand full of hours of use.
I drained the oil & gas & will refill soon. Spark plug looks ok, aerator looks ok. It has been sitting in my hot garage all year. If the oil & gas do not work where else do I look? |
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Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls: Is my 4550 dead? Haven't used it in a year. Tried to start. No start. I had some gas with stabilizer in it. Only a hand full of hours of use. I drained the oil & gas & will refill soon. Spark plug looks ok, aerator looks ok. It has been sitting in my hot garage all year. If the oil & gas do not work where else do I look? View Quote may need to check the carbon monoxide sensor. may be able to by pass it to see if it starts. |
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How long had it been run before the year out of service?
Is the spark arrestor screen clogged up? |
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Maybe 2 hours...
I bought it when I had the 20% coupon & really only played with it. I never needed it yet. I put in fresh gas & now it's ok. |
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