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Originally Posted By thevol: I got one of these a few weeks back on sale for $299 and its working great. Its got a goofy name but seems like all these chinese generators are about the same. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hike-Crew-HCIG2250-Portable-Inverter-Generator-2250-Watt-Super-Quiet-Outdoor-Gas-Powered-Power-Station/504685972 I have about 20 hrs on it so far using power tools etc and it does pretty good. It will even start and run my 15000 BTU AC unit on my camper, pretty shocked at that. I like that it has a digital fuel and load meter right on the front that is visible from a distance, not seen many that have this. edit: stoopid hot link wont work, no idea why never had a problem before. View Quote That looks pretty nice. Great price. Good job. Your URL is being superseded with some kind of Affiliate url that basically makes it a dead link. I can only assume that AR15 is doing it, but not doing it very well. |
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Originally Posted By SR712: That looks pretty nice. Great price. Good job. Your URL is being superseded with some kind of Affiliate url that basically makes it a dead link. I can only assume that AR15 is doing it, but not doing it very well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SR712: Originally Posted By thevol: I got one of these a few weeks back on sale for $299 and its working great. Its got a goofy name but seems like all these chinese generators are about the same. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hike-Crew-HCIG2250-Portable-Inverter-Generator-2250-Watt-Super-Quiet-Outdoor-Gas-Powered-Power-Station/504685972 I have about 20 hrs on it so far using power tools etc and it does pretty good. It will even start and run my 15000 BTU AC unit on my camper, pretty shocked at that. I like that it has a digital fuel and load meter right on the front that is visible from a distance, not seen many that have this. edit: stoopid hot link wont work, no idea why never had a problem before. That looks pretty nice. Great price. Good job. Your URL is being superseded with some kind of Affiliate url that basically makes it a dead link. I can only assume that AR15 is doing it, but not doing it very well. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hike-Crew-HCIG2250-Portable-Inverter-Generator-2250-Watt-Super-Quiet-Outdoor-Gas-Powered-Power-Station/504685972 |
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What would be better? Getting two 3500w generators two link together to run the Well Pump OR Get a 2000/2500w & a 7/8000 generator for the well? |
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I bought an Emporia Vue to monitor my power usage before selecting a generator. It has no monthly usage fees, and has main as well as individual breaker monitoring and data logging.
It has value beyond informing the selection of a generator though, as you can set it up to notify you when power usage reaches a certain level, etc. |
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Question What would be better? Getting two 3500w generators two link together to run the Well Pump OR Get a 2000/2500w & a 7/8000 generator for the well? View Quote All the 3500 watt generators that can be linked (i.e., inverter models) are 120 volt only - which rules out running a 240 volt well pump (unless you also want buy a step-up transformer). Linking two of them together doesn't change this limitation. Personally, I like the idea of getting one large 120/240 volt racket-maker for the well pump and other large loads that only need to be operated occasionally - along with a small, quiet inverter model to run all the small loads. Most of the time, you only run the small inverter model, which saves fuel and minimizes generator noise. Since the big generator will only be operated for short periods, it doesn't need to be super-quiet, or be built to go 50,000 hours between rebuilds - Which means that it can be an inexpensive model. |
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Originally Posted By Skibane: All the 3500 watt generators that can be linked (i.e., inverter models) are 120 volt only - which rules out running a 240 volt well pump (unless you also want buy a step-up transformer). Linking two of them together doesn't change this limitation. Personally, I like the idea of getting one large 120/240 volt racket-maker for the well pump and other large loads that only need to be operated occasionally - along with a small, quiet inverter model to run all the small loads. Most of the time, you only run the small inverter model, which saves fuel and minimizes generator noise. Since the big generator will only be operated for short periods, it doesn't need to be super-quiet, or be built to go 50,000 hours between rebuilds - Which means that it can be an inexpensive model. View Quote I'm still in the process on learning what everything runs on and I'm pretty close to wrapping it up and buying a genny The only things that truly run on electricity is Lights, Oven, Fridge, Pellet Stove, Oil Furnace, Washer, Dryer, Well Pump/Pressure Regulator. But during power outages I really only need a couple of lights, Fridge, Some kinda of heat, and some way to get water, so I dont need alot of generator besides the 240v needs |
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Anyone got info on the Firman 2000 watt inverter generator from Costco? Just picked one up, been looking at the Harbor Freight Predator for a while but this is $100 cheaper and seemed like a deal.
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Originally Posted By FDrifting: Anyone got info on the Firman 2000 watt inverter generator from Costco? Just picked one up, been looking at the Harbor Freight Predator for a while but this is $100 cheaper and seemed like a deal. View Quote Just ordered a pair for myself. Supposedly quieter than the Predator, a little more fuel efficient, but with a smaller gas tank. I already had a Predator, but will probably sell it off once the Firmans come in. |
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Originally Posted By FDrifting: Anyone got info on the Firman 2000 watt inverter generator from Costco? Just picked one up, been looking at the Harbor Freight Predator for a while but this is $100 cheaper and seemed like a deal. View Quote It's got a decibel rating of 54dBA compared to the Honda 2200 which is 48 dBA. But it's probably comparable to similar 2000 gens. It's not as fuel efficient as the Predator 2000. It is a good deal though! Here's a good website for comparing gen/inverters. https://generatorbible.com/generators/firman/w01682/ |
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Does anyone use 12V DC ports anymore?
I have the Champion Power Equipment 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generators in my cart. One from Amazon and one from Wal-Mart. The difference is $5. Model 200961 vs 200962 The only major difference between the two is that the 200961 has a 12V DC port and the 200962 comes with USB ports instead. Not sure if it is better to go with the 12V port or cleaner USB outputs. I'm sorta leaning 12V DC, but I can't really think of that many items I own that use 12V DC. A pair of cheap air compressors is it. |
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Originally Posted By panthermark: Does anyone use 12V DC ports anymore? I have the Champion Power Equipment 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generators in my cart. One from Amazon and one from Wal-Mart. The difference is $5. Model 200961 vs 200962 The only major difference between the two is that the 200961 has a 12V DC port and the 200962 comes with USB ports instead. Not sure if it is better to go with the 12V port or cleaner USB outputs. I'm sorta leaning 12V DC, but I can't really think of that many items I own that use 12V DC. A pair of cheap air compressors is it. View Quote Can't really do it the other way around. I prefer options. |
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Originally Posted By panthermark: Does anyone use 12V DC ports anymore? I have the Champion Power Equipment 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generators in my cart. One from Amazon and one from Wal-Mart. The difference is $5. Model 200961 vs 200962 The only major difference between the two is that the 200961 has a 12V DC port and the 200962 comes with USB ports instead. Not sure if it is better to go with the 12V port or cleaner USB outputs. I'm sorta leaning 12V DC, but I can't really think of that many items I own that use 12V DC. A pair of cheap air compressors is it. View Quote You can always use one of the 12V to USB adapters if it is fitted with a cigarette socket. The 12V outlet is usually pretty anemic if you're looking to use it for battery charging (~typically 8A). It's more efficient time wise to use a 120V battery charger that has a high DC amperage output. Same goes for accessories like radios or USB chargers, just run everything off 120VAC. Yes there is some conversion losses. |
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Well, I just ordered the version with the 12V DC port as it comes with an adapter. The whole thing will get tested once for break-in, and then tossed in the attic. I've been in this specific area 16 years, and in the general area about 21 years. In my specific AO, we've only lost power maybe 5 times in 16 years...usually for a few minutes at night during a storm. The two time we lost power for more than a few minutes were when there was some type of accident (or car crash) at a transformer. A car crash caused out longest outage of about 4 hours a few years ago.
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Originally Posted By Desert_AIP: The 12V outlet is usually pretty anemic if you're looking to use it for battery charging (~typically 8A). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Desert_AIP: The 12V outlet is usually pretty anemic if you're looking to use it for battery charging (~typically 8A). Yep. It's unregulated and unfiltered - consists of just an auxiliary winding on the alternator, feeding a bridge rectifier. It's more efficient time wise to use a 120V battery charger that has a high DC amperage output. Even the little 1KW inverter generators will run a 50 amp switching-type battery charger at full output - very efficient. |
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I just picked up two of the $350 Firman generators from Costco. They've got a built in parallel system, so I'm hoping that they will have no problem with my freezer and refrigerator. We'll see. When the weather gets a little nicer I'll conduct some tests. Other than that, I'm in here to learn.
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123: I just picked up two of the $350 Firman generators from Costco. They've got a built in parallel system, so I'm hoping that they will have no problem with my freezer and refrigerator. We'll see. When the weather gets a little nicer I'll conduct some tests. Other than that, I'm in here to learn. View Quote a single one of those should handle both a standard fridge and freezer just fine. My champion ran mine without issue. With the parallel setup you should be covered to power significantly more if you wish. |
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123: I just picked up two of the $350 Firman generators from Costco. They've got a built in parallel system, so I'm hoping that they will have no problem with my freezer and refrigerator. We'll see. When the weather gets a little nicer I'll conduct some tests. Other than that, I'm in here to learn. View Quote I just did the same. I have a large Champion 9,000/7,200 generator, but it burns almost a gal. of gas an hour. I plan to keep the Firman in the box and either use it if power goes out for an extended period of time, or sell it for a good mark-up next time we lose power and people are desperate. |
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Originally Posted By blackx-runner: a single one of those should handle both a standard fridge and freezer just fine. My champion ran mine without issue. With the parallel setup you should be covered to power significantly more if you wish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By blackx-runner: Originally Posted By killingmachine123: I just picked up two of the $350 Firman generators from Costco. They've got a built in parallel system, so I'm hoping that they will have no problem with my freezer and refrigerator. We'll see. When the weather gets a little nicer I'll conduct some tests. Other than that, I'm in here to learn. a single one of those should handle both a standard fridge and freezer just fine. My champion ran mine without issue. With the parallel setup you should be covered to power significantly more if you wish. That's good to know. I'll be testing it out when the weather breaks. I'll see if it will do my furnace, and the freezer too. At this point, I'm just about trying to cover the freezer, as we usually have enough in it that two uses of the new generator setup would pay for itself over the years. |
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Just finished 5 hour break-in. So far so good, but I can how important db ratings are. So glad I went dual fuel because propane fuel is best fuel.
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Originally Posted By Armed_Philosopher: Truthfully I just bought it a few weeks ago. I’m still in the break in process. I’ve run it for the hours so far with two oil changes. My second hour was this afternoon. It starts right away and runs smoothly. I haven’t put a load on it yet. I think it was $350ish. Wen doesn’t charge tax or shipping so what you see is what you pay. So far, so good. View Quote Have you tested output on a multimeter? Volts and Hz? Curious to see what your readings were if you took some. |
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Question for the predator owners. If there is no load on your generator, is there a difference if eco mode is on or off?
There is no difference on mine. On my wen when eco mode is off it runs at higher tom's In the past when I used the predator for an outage I think there was a point where I noticed a difference but I had a load on it. It still throttlles up and down, even with eco off, when the load varies. I don't know if its just always in eco mode or if it works differently than the wen. |
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Originally Posted By gitarmac: Question for the predator owners. If there is no load on your generator, is there a difference if eco mode is on or off? There is no difference on mine. On my wen when eco mode is off it runs at higher tom's In the past when I used the predator for an outage I think there was a point where I noticed a difference but I had a load on it. It still throttlles up and down, even with eco off, when the load varies. I don't know if its just always in eco mode or if it works differently than the wen. View Quote With no load and eco mode on it should throttle way down to a slow idle. |
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It is a low idol with no load whether eco mode is on or not. The switch has no effect under no load.
My wen throttlles up with eco mode off. It's been awhile since I put it to actual real life use but I seem to remember turning eco mode off and it throttling up but it's been awhile and I might be mistaken. But there is definitely no difference with no or light load. It will throttle up and down by itself as my heater goes on and off, but it does not stay throttled up. |
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It's like mine stays in eco mode, the rpms don't go up. Under a certain load it seems to make a difference. I've seen comments on youtube from both side, some are stuck in non-ecomode, some in ecomode.
I'm going to have to do some more tests. |
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Originally Posted By panthermark: Does anyone use 12V DC ports anymore? I have the Champion Power Equipment 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generators in my cart. One from Amazon and one from Wal-Mart. The difference is $5. Model 200961 vs 200962 The only major difference between the two is that the 200961 has a 12V DC port and the 200962 comes with USB ports instead. Not sure if it is better to go with the 12V port or cleaner USB outputs. I'm sorta leaning 12V DC, but I can't really think of that many items I own that use 12V DC. A pair of cheap air compressors is it. View Quote What is Champion thinking with this new form factor? A year ago these were stackable with a cool parallel kit. This seems like a step backward or they started having someone else produce their generators. |
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Originally Posted By JoeJeeps: What is Champion thinking with this new form factor? A year ago these were stackable with a cool parallel kit. This seems like a step backward or they started having someone else produce their generators. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JoeJeeps: Originally Posted By panthermark: Does anyone use 12V DC ports anymore? I have the Champion Power Equipment 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generators in my cart. One from Amazon and one from Wal-Mart. The difference is $5. Model 200961 vs 200962 The only major difference between the two is that the 200961 has a 12V DC port and the 200962 comes with USB ports instead. Not sure if it is better to go with the 12V port or cleaner USB outputs. I'm sorta leaning 12V DC, but I can't really think of that many items I own that use 12V DC. A pair of cheap air compressors is it. What is Champion thinking with this new form factor? A year ago these were stackable with a cool parallel kit. This seems like a step backward or they started having someone else produce their generators. https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100468-30-amp-paralink-parallel-kit/ |
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Originally Posted By mitsuman47: The new form factor still stacks. https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100468-30-amp-paralink-parallel-kit/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mitsuman47: Originally Posted By JoeJeeps: Originally Posted By panthermark: Does anyone use 12V DC ports anymore? I have the Champion Power Equipment 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generators in my cart. One from Amazon and one from Wal-Mart. The difference is $5. Model 200961 vs 200962 The only major difference between the two is that the 200961 has a 12V DC port and the 200962 comes with USB ports instead. Not sure if it is better to go with the 12V port or cleaner USB outputs. I'm sorta leaning 12V DC, but I can't really think of that many items I own that use 12V DC. A pair of cheap air compressors is it. What is Champion thinking with this new form factor? A year ago these were stackable with a cool parallel kit. This seems like a step backward or they started having someone else produce their generators. https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100468-30-amp-paralink-parallel-kit/ Didn't the old ones stack without buying a specialized parallel kit? |
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New HF Generators.
5 New Generators at Harbor Freight! (April 2021) Inverter + Super Quiet! |
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View Quote That's crazy. The 4400 Watt open-frame inverter really has me interested, but it's the SAME price as the Champion that is dual-fuel. Harbor Freight is way out of touch with their pricing. |
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Originally Posted By jestertoo: Dual fuel inverter 9K https://www.electricgeneratordepot.com/collections/duromax-inverters/products/duromax-xp9000ih-9000-watt-459cc-dual-fuel-portable-digital-inverter-generator View Quote That's pretty slick but $500 more than the HF version but either one is a hell of a deal when a comparable honda will cost nearly 2X's that price. The HF model and the Duromax look nearly identical as well. |
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If you wanted around 3500 watts and the ability to run on propane, would this be your choice?
https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100263-3400-watt-dual-fuel-inverter/ I already own a 7500 watt Craftsman (Generac) noise generator that will be running my 220V stuff, but want something smaller and much more quiet for the 110V stuff -- and don't want to mess with gasoline for it. |
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Originally Posted By M4Madness: If you wanted around 3500 watts and the ability to run on propane, would this be your choice? https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100263-3400-watt-dual-fuel-inverter/ I already own a 7500 watt Craftsman (Generac) noise generator that will be running my 220V stuff, but want something smaller and much more quiet for the 110V stuff -- and don't want to mess with gasoline for it. View Quote I would save $400 over the traditional design and get the open-frame version: https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100574-4000-watt-dual-fuel-open-frame-inverter/ |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: I would save $400 over the traditional design and get the open-frame version: https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100574-4000-watt-dual-fuel-open-frame-inverter/ View Quote That would work, too. Thanks, M! |
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Originally Posted By M4Madness: That would work, too. Thanks, M! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By M4Madness: Originally Posted By Zhukov: I would save $400 over the traditional design and get the open-frame version: https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100574-4000-watt-dual-fuel-open-frame-inverter/ That would work, too. Thanks, M! If you look on youtube and other places there are a lot of ideas to quiet down the open frame models. If you want ultra stealth mode.... https://www.zombie-box.com/products - damn if they aren't proud of them. |
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run: If you want ultra stealth mode.... https://www.zombie-box.com/products - damn if they aren't proud of them. View Quote You're not getting much interior storage space for that money, either. Having a generator shed makes sense for a lot of reasons - sound reduction, fuel storage, theft deterrence, avoiding weather exposure, property aesthetics, HOA regulations, etc. Lots of relatively inexpensive pre-built sheds available which can be modified to serve that purpose. |
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I'm just looking for quiet for my own comfort. I live in a rural area, and both of my neighbors are at least 200 yards away on either side. Years ago, I heard a generator running at one of those houses, but it wasn't overbearing and I certainly couldn't hear it inside. No HOA ruling my life.
My plan is to only run the 7500-watt gasoline beast long enough for the electric water heater to give my wife and me quick showers, and possibly to power the clothes dryer. The inverter, on the other hand, will run longer to power lights, television, etc. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: I would save $400 over the traditional design and get the open-frame version: https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100574-4000-watt-dual-fuel-open-frame-inverter/ View Quote |
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What oil weight are you guys running on the Predator 2000?
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Originally Posted By xFOXHOUNDx: What oil weight are you guys running on the Predator 2000? View Quote I used non-synthetic 10w30 for the first 20 or so hours for break-in and then switched to synthetic. I do oil changes about every 50 hours and now have over 200 hrs on the generator and it still doesn't burn any oil. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: I would save $400 over the traditional design and get the open-frame version: https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100574-4000-watt-dual-fuel-open-frame-inverter/ View Quote How do you like it? |
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Has anyone who has one of these ran them? How do you like it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Originally Posted By Zhukov: I would save $400 over the traditional design and get the open-frame version: https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100574-4000-watt-dual-fuel-open-frame-inverter/ How do you like it? Just had it delivered and it's breaking in on the front porch as we speak. The only downsides: 1) No L5-30R receptacle, and 2) no fuel gauge (WTF Champion?). One other observation: the fuel selector switch also turns off the gasoline. The weird thing is that when you turn it to the LPG/off position, the motor shuts down within about 10 seconds. My other generator with a conventional fuel shutoff switch runs for a couple of minutes until the carb empties. It makes me wonder if the carb bowl actually is emptied on this one when the fuel switch is turned off. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Just had it delivered and it's breaking in on the front porch as we speak. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38579/2021-04-08_12-44-51-1897495.jpg The only downsides: 1) No L5-30R receptacle, and 2) no fuel gauge (WTF Champion?). One other observation: the fuel selector switch also turns off the gasoline. The weird thing is that when you turn it to the LPG/off position, the motor shuts down within about 10 seconds. My other generator with a conventional fuel shutoff switch runs for a couple of minutes until the carb empties. It makes me wonder if the carb bowl actually is emptied on this one when the fuel switch is turned off. View Quote That one's tempting, but it's 5dB louder than the 3400W enclosed model. Interested in quiet and compact for a camping trailer, and for use at the house as well. |
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Originally Posted By Maroonfeather: That one's tempting, but it's 5dB louder than the 3400W enclosed model. Interested in quiet and compact for a camping trailer, and for use at the house as well. View Quote It's noticeably louder than an enclosed inverter, so if that is your primary concern then this unit is a no-go. For me, it wasn't and I'm happy I paid $450 less than the 100263. |
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