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5/11/2017 9:46:10 PM EDT
I got this in my email today. Are they now opposed or still neutral and expecting their consumers to carry the load? Anyone else get this?


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Dear Steve,

We strongly encourage you to protect your gun rights by filing a Witness Slip for SB-1657. As a resident of Illinois, this is an opportunity to have your voice heard.

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What is a Witness Slip?

A Witness Slip is a person or group’s position on a particular bill. Complete the sections of the form and make sure to indicate you are an opponent of this bill. A Witness Slip can be filed by individuals on behalf of themselves, or on behalf of organizations.

What is SB-1657?

SB-1657 would create onerous mandatory regulations, fees potentially in the thousands of dollars and excessive amounts of red tape that would almost assuredly force the closure of many firearm dealers, and prevent prospective owners from opening new ones.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) already licenses and closely monitors all federally licensed firearm dealers (FFLs)  and strictly enforces any violation of federal law.


Thank you for your time in this matter and helping protect Illinois gun rights.
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5/11/2017 9:51:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I got the same email.
5/11/2017 9:54:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Too little, too late.

They are just playing the damage control game.
5/11/2017 9:55:32 PM EDT
[#3]
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5/11/2017 9:56:41 PM EDT
[#4]
I got a stand up display with tear sheets via UPS today. At least they are trying, but I won't sell their guns anymore.
5/11/2017 9:56:52 PM EDT
[#5]
they can eat a bucket of dicks
5/11/2017 9:57:06 PM EDT
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This  Fuck SA and RRA. 
5/11/2017 9:58:24 PM EDT
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5/11/2017 9:59:51 PM EDT
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They can suck their way across a field of dicks without using their hands. 
5/11/2017 10:04:40 PM EDT
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Too little, too late.

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5/11/2017 10:06:22 PM EDT
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Who cares if they reversed.  They helped cause this firestorm.  Dead to me.  
5/11/2017 10:10:13 PM EDT
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Yep, they decided to take the path that saved them and threw the citizens of Illinois under the bus.  Now they try damage control.

I'm not sure what I'm madder about..... the fact they did it or the fact I can no longer salivate at the 1911 RO.

Never again Springfield or RRA....I don't care if you were to behead every gun grabbing turncoat in Congress on the steps of the Supreme Court.  NEVER AGAIN.
5/11/2017 10:11:23 PM EDT
[#12]
They have been plastering gunbroker with ads last 2 days 

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5/11/2017 10:11:43 PM EDT
[#13]
The turncoat sacks of shit are back peddling.

Fuck'em.
5/11/2017 10:21:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Who cares....FSA FRRA
5/11/2017 10:32:57 PM EDT
[#15]
I'll hold them in the same regards as Smith & Wesson.

Still ain't buyin nuttin since '94.
5/11/2017 10:35:28 PM EDT
[#16]
I sent a reply...
5/11/2017 10:46:00 PM EDT
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Climb dick mountain mouth first?
5/11/2017 10:50:13 PM EDT
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If they do their part and the Bill gets defeated I'll give them credit... if the bill gets passed, I will blame them
5/11/2017 10:52:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Book of flyers they sent me. (ffl handout stuff)



5/11/2017 10:55:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Done.  They can fuck off
5/11/2017 10:57:02 PM EDT
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did you put them out for people to take?
5/11/2017 10:58:11 PM EDT
[#22]
What did I miss about SA?
5/11/2017 11:36:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Fuck Springfield! They can suck my nuts.
5/11/2017 11:39:16 PM EDT
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5/11/2017 11:39:45 PM EDT
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5/11/2017 11:41:12 PM EDT
[#26]
They should go ahead and list their companies for sale since they are so good at selling out.
Fuck em.
5/12/2017 12:38:30 AM EDT
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This.
5/12/2017 1:58:32 AM EDT
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Are you serious right now?

FSA     FRRA
5/12/2017 2:05:24 AM EDT
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5/12/2017 2:09:02 AM EDT
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This. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me.
5/12/2017 2:15:28 AM EDT
[#31]
Too late. They're boned. There are people still boycotting Ruger 13yrs after the AWB ended and 15yrs after Bill Ruger died.
5/12/2017 2:17:37 AM EDT
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are they literally sending out literature to fight a bill they backed?
5/12/2017 2:24:38 AM EDT
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Hum... im too young to know about that, off to google!

But seriously... so we have SA, Ruger, S&W. is there any gun manuf we can buy guns from? Lol
5/12/2017 2:27:25 AM EDT
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Hum... im too young to know about that, off to google!

But seriously... so we have SA, Ruger, S&W. is there any gun manuf we can buy guns from? Lol
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HK, they have not politically fucked us, they just hate us.
5/12/2017 2:35:52 AM EDT
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Hum... im too young to know about that, off to google!

But seriously... so we have SA, Ruger, S&W Rock River. is there any gun manuf we can buy guns from? Lol
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I am one of the guilty ones about Ruger and S&W. I had no idea that Bill had passed away. If I saw an article on Ruger I would skip it. Kind of makes sense now, with their AR's and "hi cap" pistols. I still feel that Smith should move out of Mass, but the company that owned them, and bent over for the Clinton's during the AWB, was British and are long gone now.
5/12/2017 2:46:56 AM EDT
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Both of these.
5/12/2017 2:56:31 AM EDT
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Duplicitous and hypocritical.
5/12/2017 3:09:07 AM EDT
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Isn't it sad how American gun manufacturers continue to sell out American gun rights. Not many American guns I will own, or cars. Hell. I even get my Coke from Mexico.
5/12/2017 3:19:33 AM EDT
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Since we are putting SA and RRA on the boycott list did we ever take Smith & Wesson and Leatherman off the list?
5/12/2017 3:39:55 AM EDT
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S&W yes. Leatherman "Always Think Forfeiture" no.
5/12/2017 5:39:32 AM EDT
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This. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me.
Stab me in the back once, you better kill me.

Dead to me and they should suffer shame and bankruptcy.

Are you readng this SA/RRA? Other gun manufactures?
5/12/2017 6:18:50 AM EDT
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The fact that they are only doing it now and not 2 months or 2 years ago speaks volumes.
5/12/2017 6:21:00 AM EDT
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5/12/2017 6:37:28 AM EDT
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Ah yup.  Started the IFMA, hired a non gun lobbyist, allegedly had ZERO oversight on the lobbyist's activities, lobbyist gets RRA and SA an exemption in the licensing bill and once the SHTF they (RRA SA) decided to come out against the bill.

Sorry we dicked you but now we want to help you....

Nope
5/12/2017 6:52:31 AM EDT
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Yeah....and Ruger is just about to go under.....screw those sell-outs.....rabble....rabble.....
5/12/2017 6:54:04 AM EDT
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Isn't S&W still building guns with the "Clinton lock"?
5/12/2017 6:54:13 AM EDT
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I got it as well. I unsubscribed.
5/12/2017 6:58:02 AM EDT
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The John Kerry Defense.

"I was for it before I was against it.''

Didn't work for that miserable SOB either.
5/12/2017 6:58:44 AM EDT
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They revealed their true nature, now they just do not want to suffer the consequences.
Do the Dixie Twits own them?
5/12/2017 7:03:21 AM EDT
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Ruger kicked Bill out of the company and then he died.

The trademark S&W and the original company's assets, but not the company itself,  were sold by the British conglomerate Tompkins PLC and a brand new company, Smith and Wesson Holding Company, ( now renamed American Outdoor Brands) was formed.

That's what it will take for either Springfield Arsenal of Rock River Arms before the see any of my money.
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