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8/10/2012 9:21:08 AM EDT
I'm about a half inch taller now than when I bought all of my formal clothing. My various relatives insist that everything fits terribly and that everything I own needs to go in for alterations. Okay, what ever.



I am leaving for graduate school. They insist that I HAVE to have a tuxedo for graduate school. I insist that it would be better to have two business suits. They insist one business suit and one tuxedo will be fine.



Uhh... I am having trouble envisioning ANY situation that could possibly call for a tuxedo. So, which one of us is right? Can anyone think of a situation in which a grad student would need a tuxedo?


 
8/10/2012 9:22:38 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd like to know how you grew half an inch
8/10/2012 9:25:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I'm about a half inch taller now than when I bought all of my formal clothing. My various relatives insist that everything fits terribly and that everything I own needs to go in for alterations. Okay, what ever.

I am leaving for graduate school. They insist that I HAVE to have a tuxedo for graduate school. I insist that it would be better to have two business suits. They insist one business suit and one tuxedo will be fine.

Uhh... I am having trouble envisioning ANY situation that could possibly call for a tuxedo. So, which one of us is right? Can anyone think of a situation in which a grad student would need a tuxedo?
 


I actually wore a suit to law school during one year, pretty much everyday, just because I looked good in them and the chicks would whisper to each other.  I had my own tuxedo at the time (still do) and never wore it once.

Chris

8/10/2012 9:25:55 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I'd like to know how you grew half an inch


Heels
8/10/2012 9:28:31 AM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


I'd like to know how you grew half an inch
I got most of my formal clothes when I was 17.





 
8/10/2012 9:29:41 AM EDT
[#5]
You don't have balls if you don't show up wearing this

I have a tux for shooting weddings, lodge, etc.  I never wear it anymore as I hate suits.  If I have to dress up, I don't need to go.
8/10/2012 9:30:33 AM EDT
[#6]
I can't think of a time related to college or graduate school when a tuxedo would be needed.
I'd go with suits.
8/10/2012 9:31:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I can't think of a time related to college or graduate school when a tuxedo would be needed.
I'd go with suits.


this
8/10/2012 9:31:40 AM EDT
[#8]
I have never had to wear a tux outside of a wedding...I certainly don't own one. A business suit on the other hand...that can be a useful thing to own.
8/10/2012 9:31:51 AM EDT
[#9]
My son has to wear a tux on certain occasions at school. He is starting his
undergraduate junior year. He has 2 suits and a couple sets of khakis and
a sport coat.  He wears the tux because he HAS to not because he wants to.

He's in sweats, short 99% of the time anyway.
You would be better served with 2 suits in place of the tux.
8/10/2012 9:33:09 AM EDT
[#10]
I've worn a tuxedo all of three times in my life.

I've worn suits many, many more times than that.
8/10/2012 9:38:55 AM EDT
[#11]
When I was in grad school, I think that there were maybe one or two black tie events each year.   None were mandatory.
8/10/2012 9:41:12 AM EDT
[#12]
I think it probably depends on where you are going to school, what your masters is in and if you plan on getting married while you are there.
8/10/2012 9:41:23 AM EDT
[#13]
I own a tuxedo.



When I was 21 and bought it, it was awesome.  I am 28 now and I haven't wore it since I was 21.



Buy two suits, the best you can afford.  Then buy 6 shirt tie combos and be done with it.
8/10/2012 9:41:32 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
My son has to wear a tux on certain occasions at school. He is starting his
undergraduate junior year. He has 2 suits and a couple sets of khakis and
a sport coat.  He wears the tux because he HAS to not because he wants to.

He's in sweats, short 99% of the time anyway.
You would be better served with 2 suits in place of the tux.


Yep, two suits, a blue blazer, a camel's hair sport coat, grey/khaki slacks and some nice shirts/ties/belts and one can look like a million bucks.  

Don't forget a couple pairs of decent loafers––black and cordovan.

Chris

8/10/2012 9:42:18 AM EDT
[#15]
This reminds me of the story in "With the Old Breed" (EB Sledge- awesome WWII book). The author's mother wrote in a letter if she wanted her to mail him his dress blues. The author was reading the letter in a foxhole on Peleliu.  

Before I went to Officer Candidates School a million years ago, my mother insisted that I learn how to play bridge. "It's what all the officers do in their spare time", she said.

Save the tux for your wedding.
8/10/2012 9:43:03 AM EDT
[#16]
Get the suits.  You can always rent a tux for the three times in your life that you will need it.
8/10/2012 9:44:05 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I'm about a half inch taller now than when I bought all of my formal clothing. My various relatives insist that everything fits terribly and that everything I own needs to go in for alterations. Okay, what ever.

I am leaving for graduate school. They insist that I HAVE to have a tuxedo for graduate school. I insist that it would be better to have two business suits. They insist one business suit and one tuxedo will be fine.

Uhh... I am having trouble envisioning ANY situation that could possibly call for a tuxedo. So, which one of us is right? Can anyone think of a situation in which a grad student would need a tuxedo?
 


I cannot think of any reason that a grad student would need a tuxedo.

I just came back from an academic conference of about 5000 people, who pretty much all have PhDs.  The laughter that would have erupted had someone claimed that you would need a tuxedo for graduate school would probably be loud enough to be heard on the moon.

A couple of business suits would not be a BAD idea, especially if you're going to grad school in a top-ranked business school or economics department - but you probably wouldn't need them until your third or fourth year at the earliest.

8/10/2012 9:45:56 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
My son has to wear a tux on certain occasions at school. He is starting his
undergraduate junior year. He has 2 suits and a couple sets of khakis and
a sport coat.  He wears the tux because he HAS to not because he wants to.

He's in sweats, short 99% of the time anyway.
You would be better served with 2 suits in place of the tux.


Yep, two suits, a blue blazer, a camel's hair sport coat, grey/khaki slacks and some nice shirts/ties/belts and one can look like a million bucks.  

Don't forget a couple pairs of decent loafers––black and cordovan.

Chris



Solid advice here.  If you're buying a suit, don't cheap out, cheap suits look like shit.

Also, its grad school.  99% of the people will, no shit, wear pajamas to class or look like complete scrubs.  Grad school is like undergrad, except with more smelly hippies.
8/10/2012 9:46:45 AM EDT
[#19]
8/10/2012 9:48:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Tell your crazy relatives to watch "Real Genius" and tell them grad school is exactly like that.

Except for the cute chicks.  Grad school doesn't have those.
8/10/2012 9:49:39 AM EDT
[#21]
2 suits...

I see no point to buy/store/care for a tuxedo unless you're using one more than 3 times a year. There's a reason so many places rent them.
8/10/2012 9:52:17 AM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


I'd like to know how you grew half an inch


Mitosis

 





8/10/2012 9:52:41 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I'd like to know how you grew half an inch

Mitosis  




Or, a medieval rack.
8/10/2012 9:53:51 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


Tell your crazy relatives to watch "Real Genius" and tell them grad school is exactly like that.



Except for the cute chicks.  Grad school doesn't have those.


I really had a thing for the manic chick.

 





8/10/2012 9:55:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Tell your crazy relatives to watch "Real Genius" and tell them grad school is exactly like that.

Except for the cute chicks.  Grad school doesn't have those.

I really had a thing for the manic chick.  




In 1985, I had a thing for pretty much ANY chick in a movie.
8/10/2012 9:55:32 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I'm about a half inch taller now than when I bought all of my formal clothing. My various relatives insist that everything fits terribly and that everything I own needs to go in for alterations. Okay, what ever.

I am leaving for graduate school. They insist that I HAVE to have a tuxedo for graduate school. I insist that it would be better to have two business suits. They insist one business suit and one tuxedo will be fine.

Uhh... I am having trouble envisioning ANY situation that could possibly call for a tuxedo. So, which one of us is right? Can anyone think of a situation in which a grad student would need a tuxedo?
 


What sorta grad school?  My wife is a PhD... we attended LOTS of grad school events (at very nice, expensive schools... Georgetown and George Washington U).  I never saw a tux.
8/10/2012 9:56:04 AM EDT
[#27]
I made it through grad school (MBA), law school, and nearly a decade of legal practice without buying a tux. I think I've rented a tux once in the past 12 years.
8/10/2012 9:56:33 AM EDT
[#28]
Are these your relatives?



8/10/2012 9:56:59 AM EDT
[#29]
Buy one of these, then truthfully tell them that you bought a Tux. Never bring it up again.





8/10/2012 9:59:15 AM EDT
[#30]
You do not need a tuxedo for graduate school.



If you are notified that you have won the Nobel Prize for Something, perhaps get one then –– though academics are generally given a pass on matters of attire.


 
8/10/2012 10:01:47 AM EDT
[#31]
You definitely need spats, an ascot, and a selection of fine monocles.
8/10/2012 10:06:02 AM EDT
[#32]





Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:


My son has to wear a tux on certain occasions at school. He is starting his


undergraduate junior year. He has 2 suits and a couple sets of khakis and


a sport coat.  He wears the tux because he HAS to not because he wants to.





He's in sweats, short 99% of the time anyway.


You would be better served with 2 suits in place of the tux.






Yep, two suits, a blue blazer, a camel's hair sport coat, grey/khaki slacks and some nice shirts/ties/belts and one can look like a million bucks.  





Don't forget a couple pairs of decent loafers––black and cordovan.





Chris











Solid advice here.  If you're buying a suit, don't cheap out, cheap suits look like shit.





Also, its grad school.  99% of the people will, no shit, wear pajamas to class or look like complete scrubs.  Grad school is like undergrad, except with more smelly hippies.
I cannot seem to impress upon my relatives that the fact I know which shoe goes on which foot plus a working knowledge of combing hair puts me ahead of half of the grad students. FWIW, I own a bunch of armani stuff; a suit, tux, navy sport coat and a few other sport coats. I also have another $1200 designer suit and a camel hair coat.





Ebay is a wonderful thing for skinny people.






ETA: I've never paid more than 100 for any of that. My average price is 70.





 
8/10/2012 10:11:35 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Tell your crazy relatives to watch "Real Genius" and tell them grad school is exactly like that.

Except for the cute chicks.  Grad school doesn't have those.

I really had a thing for the manic chick.  




In 1985, I had a thing for pretty much ANY chick in a movie.


Mrs. Doubtfire?
8/10/2012 10:12:13 AM EDT
[#34]


Came here to post that pic.  

What fucking graduate school requires a tuxedo?  Are you going to maitre-d school?
8/10/2012 10:12:31 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Tell your crazy relatives to watch "Real Genius" and tell them grad school is exactly like that.

Except for the cute chicks.  Grad school doesn't have those.

I really had a thing for the manic chick.  




In 1985, I had a thing for pretty much ANY chick in a movie.


Mrs. Doubtfire?


Hey now, that was 1993.
8/10/2012 10:14:26 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
2 suits...

I see no point to buy/store/care for a tuxedo unless you're using one more than 3 times a year. There's a reason so many places rent them.


And some people like to wear suits other guys got laid in.  

Better hope they dry-cleaned it well.  

8/10/2012 10:16:05 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
You definitely need spats, an ascot, and a selection of fine monocles.


The man speaks the truth.

Spatterdashes are really the pinnacle of male fashion.

Also, your hat needs a falcon plume.
Like this badass:
8/10/2012 10:18:39 AM EDT
[#38]
Just get this and call it a day





8/10/2012 10:18:44 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I'd like to know how you grew half an inch


Tugging instead of shaking?
8/10/2012 10:19:55 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:

Quoted:
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Also, its grad school.  99% of the people will, no shit, wear pajamas to class or look like complete scrubs.  Grad school is like undergrad, except with more smelly hippies.
I cannot seem to impress upon my relatives that the fact I know which shoe goes on which foot plus a working knowledge of combing hair puts me ahead of half of the grad students.
...
 


Exactly.

As a doctoral student, I taught classes at the #1 ranked business school in the world, and I didn't wear a suit.  Nice slacks, a button-down shirt and maybe a tie was perfectly fine.

Since I got tenure, I haven't worn a tie, and have no intention of ever doing so again.  I regularly teach "executive" business classes, and I usually wear cargo pants and a hooded sweatshirt.

8/10/2012 10:22:52 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I am leaving for graduate school. They insist that I HAVE to have a tuxedo for graduate school.....


I suggest it's time to make your own decisions, there shouldn't be an "argument" over this as its your decision - so make it and stop worrying about what everyone else thinks.
8/10/2012 10:23:57 AM EDT
[#42]
I've worked in a university environment since 1993.  I have never, ever seen anyone wear a tux that wasn't in a wedding.  Faculty, staff, students.  Not one.  Most grad students I know are doing good to have matching socks.
8/10/2012 10:24:40 AM EDT
[#43]
I say that OP shows up to the first day of classes wearing a tuxedo.  Who's with me?
8/10/2012 11:08:37 AM EDT
[#44]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I am leaving for graduate school. They insist that I HAVE to have a tuxedo for graduate school.....




I suggest it's time to make your own decisions, there shouldn't be an "argument" over this as its your decision - so make it and stop worrying about what everyone else thinks.


My mom is a nagging bitch. I've already had a few shouting matches over this. She has been nagging me about something or other about three times a minute since I came back a week ago. I am about to go fucking insane.



Things I've learned are the following;



While Arizona is a low class state, high class people in the South wear tuxedos a lot. So I need one.

Grad students are highly polished. My uncle failed to get his PhD because he didn't go to enough formal social events.

My excessive tobacco habit will mean I get flunked out of school and end up a hobo. (I'm pretty sure I have had grades bumped up a bit for always having a light when my professors needed one).

Somehow it makes sense to buy me a whole bunch of random shit BEFORE I fly out. As if I don't already have too much shit to pack on a flight.



God damn I want a smoke.
(



 
8/10/2012 11:20:44 AM EDT
[#45]
If an event arises, you can rent a tux.

I'd get two suits...unless you plan on going to interviews in a tux


8/10/2012 11:28:15 AM EDT
[#46]
No tux.  Unless your planning on going back to your high school prom.