Posted: 9/24/2002 2:38:21 PM EDT
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The dogs got to barking furiously about an hour ago. I looked out and saw them very intent in a certain direction and going apeshit. I walked out with my M1 Carbine (which is in the rotation this week as the house rifle) and there was this bull in the back yard, inside the fence! I quickly went back in, loaded a Garand clip, loaded it in one of the Garands, and went back out. I figured the .30 carbine round would be useless. My plan was to open the gate and try to shoo it out, but the Garand was in case it charged. I figured the .30-06 would stop it. Well, I moved slowly and made like a cowboy and finally succeeded in getting it out of the yard. The owner came over about that time and asked why I had a rifle. I told him his bull was in the yard and I would shoot it if it charged, but only then. He said he understood and just smiled. I then walked the fence. The damn bull must have jumped the fence because it wasn't down anywhere. I certainly was not expecting to walk out and be face to face with a bull. The dogs were penned in on the back deck or there might have been a mess, some dead dogs, and, if that was the case, a dead bull. |
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LOL! Well, at least I'm not the only one who has a rifle "rotation".[8D] At my old house, the neighboring farm across the street had a bunch of BIG goats. The guy used to tie them to trees with enough rope that they could eat a sizeable section of grass, thus reducing his mowing chores. One morning I walked out the front door to go to work, half asleep, and heard this Baaaaaaaa noise. There, nearly on my front porch, is this big-assed goat, chewing away, not a care in the world! What's more, my dog (a young shep/rott mix) is standing there next to it, like nothing was wrong! That was a surprise because I thought the dog should have been going nuts. Turns out, the dog had been going over there and had befriended the goat. So, I picked up the chewed through rope, walked the cooperative goat back across the road, and did my best boy scout knot to re-attach hi to his tree. It changed my whole day. |
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I didn't think bulls could jump either. But just this weekend, I saw some footage from a bullfight in Spain. Bull going after a matador lept right over a 5ft wood wall into the warmup area for the fighters. All these matadors/torriadors going assholes and elbows over the wall back into the the ring to get away from it. Never saw how they got it back out.. A good question would be-what the heck caused him to want to jump your fence in the first place? |
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The owner of the bull will be laughing at you with all of his buddies for some time. They (beef cattle, even bulls) tend to be very docile. Yes, they can jump fences, but are not prone to do so. I had a big cow jump a 5' cattle panel from a standing start and nearly trampled me. She spooked as she had pink-eye and could not see well. Edited to add: If your fence is chain link or woven wire, you might check the bottom as they will go under too. |
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Quoted: A good question would be-what the heck caused him to want to jump your fence in the first place? You know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Same reason the damn dogs want to keep getting out of the fence when they have 2 acres to romp on. |
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Quoted: Most bulls I have seen should be VERY careful jumping barb wire!! Can you say steer? Caution is WELL advised!! A bull CAN be very dangerous and some of them have very BAD attitudes. Not all, just some. Apparently THAT one was not nasty.... Apparently, this one was docile, but I wasn't taking any chances, thus the loaded Garand. Beekeeper, the owner may be laughing, but I wasn't about to find out the hard way whether this one had an attitude or not. I think I figured out why it was in our yard. After the owner took it home, I heard it bellowing and apparently a female on the other side of the property was answering. Methinks he was trying to get to her. |
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Quoted: Beekeeper, the owner may be laughing, but I wasn't about to find out the hard way whether this one had an attitude or not. I don't blame you a bit. I hope you didn't/don't think I'm picking on you. I just know cattle farmers/ranchers as I spend time with them every weekend. I know their attitude about such things. Imagine this, keeping in mind the farmer knows the disposition of the bull in question, and so does his buddy: "Old Lowdangle" got out yesterday. Yup, he ended up in that dandy neighbor's back yard. The dumb sumbitch came runnin' out lookin' like Rambo with a rifle and all! I didn't dare laugh at him cuz I didn't want to have to pay for damages, but you shoulda seen 'im!" That's all I meant. No offense intended. [:)] Oh, just so you know, I am a "city numbnuts" with 80 acres surrounded on all four sides by beef cattle farms. [;)] |
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Quoted: So is it legal to kill cattle on your property if they kill your dogs??? Sorry, I couldn't help it! I just got trashed (with good reason I now see) on a thread about shooting dogs for the same reason...[;)] I don't know if it would have been legal or not, but it would have happened if the bull had harmed either one of the dogs. |
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Quoted: should have used a .50 bmg, then you could have had hamburgers for dinner My roomie said 'you should have shot the damn thing and we could have run over to Walmart and gotten a freezer real quick'. They are her dogs, but I have become attached to them as well. If the bull had hurt the dogs and I didn't shoot it, she would have gone to where it lives and shot it herself. Petite lady, but fiercely protective of her pets and her friends. |
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Quoted: So is it legal to kill cattle on your property if they kill your dogs??? Sorry, I couldn't help it! I just got trashed (with good reason I now see) on a thread about shooting dogs for the same reason...[;)] Hey, HKer, I don't know if it's legal, but two December's ago I had one neighbor's cattle get in on me (see post above) and destroy six food plots that I had planted for the deer and turkey. I bought my ground to hunt on and after spending hundreds of dollars planting Imperial Whitetail Clover @ $7.00/lb. for the seed, I was not happy with him or his damned rogue cattle. I called him and left a screaming message (no profanity in case he has a family) on his ans. machine saying I am shooting the next steer I see on my property. He called me late that night when he got home, apologized profusely, and offered to pay for the damage. I declined the money as I wanted my foodplots, and they could not be restored in December. He knew I was serious, and I have not had a single steer or crap pile on the place since. I guess he decided a little fence maintenance was cheaper than cattle at about a grand apiece. Moral of the story: Don't mess with my deer hunting. [:(!] |
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Quoted: So is it legal to kill cattle on your property if they kill your dogs??? Sorry, I couldn't help it! I just got trashed (with good reason I now see) on a thread about shooting dogs for the same reason...[;)] Just couldn't leave it alone could ya???[:)] Seriously though, it's a city Vs. country thing. I know that bull can be worth several thousand dollars. I give the rancher the benefit of the doubt since I don't think he turned his bull loose for the evening like it was house cat. I've spent time chasing cattle down major roads here to prevent someone from losing an asset worth a couple of grand. Maybe that's just me |