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8/8/2014 6:44:53 PM EDT
Hi Guys

I'm new here, so go easy on me ok...LOL

Anyway, a question pop up about homemade magazine/ DIY....
I know that magazine  are dime a dozen and available everywhere in many price range/ quality. But what if....what if our dearly beloved Obama went Koo-Ku and bann all sale of hi-capacity magazine in all 50 State.
What would you do? Will you go on every website in the internet and buy as many as you can. ( Tons of you guys are magazine junkie, you know who you are).

Eventually, all source will dry up and that is when we have to start making our own magazine. A lot of you guys are very capable and have a good work shop to work in, but for some of us folk, we  do not have a facility to make something.
But we got basic tool and we think we can do it

So I though there must be a cheap and reliable method of making your own magazine. I don’t think we should go in depth in subject such  as feeing issue, magazine catch, bolt hold open, ect.
That you got to tweak it on your own.

well, here's my questions.


1.) any of your guys attempt a homemade version? (I believe 10 or 20 round is much easier to work with)

2.) does anyone sell magazine flat where I can take buy it and bent it myself ? ( similar to when we build our own AK receiver from flat)

3.)  also, I’m going to need a jig to do it.  I don’t think it’s difficult to build a jig, but might not be easy to get it right the first time...lol

4.) can anyone tell me a good and cheap source for AR magazine floor plate? DMPS have them for $2.00 a piece  kinda expensive I think. and Brownell.....well, let just say that I don’t really want Brownell logo on my magazine floor plate.
     A colt or plain Jane one will do.

5.) Lastly, does anyone have a drawing for M16/AR-15 Magazine ?

Thx in advance and please share your though/ picture/ source


Jerry
8/6/2014 5:23:33 AM EDT
[#1]
Buy a case of 100 standard capacity 30 rounders now and you won't have to worry about it later.



ETA:  I see the curiosity about making them, but unless you're really good with bending metal, and welding it, then it's going to have feeding issues.  I've given up looking for floor plates, they do seem to be not readily available, except for where you found them already.  I don't think anyone sells the stamped steel that hasn't already been folded/welded into a mag already.

8/6/2014 7:08:59 AM EDT
[#2]
There are a number of companies out there making crappy magazines and they have industrial equipment and (presumably) expertise in magazine manufacturing.  I'm guessing that most home made magazines are not going to be too reliable.



Magazine prices have not been this low for over 20 years.  Now is the time to stock up.
8/6/2014 7:26:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Making a magazine for the AR platform is much more challenging than most people realize. There are several factors that challenge even the best experts. That's why it has been said many times that the weakest link in the Stoner design is the mag.

Bottom line, listen to the guys on here and figure out how many mags you need to last you the rest of your life, then add some more. Problem solved.

PS. Even if you could make a reliable mag that worked, it would most likely cost you more money that to just buy at today's prices.
8/6/2014 8:19:38 AM EDT
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Magazine prices have not been this low for over 20 years.  Now is the time to stock up.
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I purchased my first AR-15 in 1972, I'll comment that magazine prices are the lowest....EVER!
8/6/2014 9:52:13 PM EDT
[#5]
 THX GUYS, THAT WAS THE EXACT ANSWER I WAS EXPECTING.

BENDING THIN SHEET METAL AND FORMING IT INTO A MAGAZINE SOUND EASY. GETTING IT RIGHT IS THE HARD PART.
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT SMALL.

HOW ABOUT HOME MADE POLYMER BASE MAGAZINE FOR AR? NO BENDING REQUIRE.

ALL YOU NEED IS THE MAGAZINE MOLD, POLYMER AND THE KNOW HOW.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN POLYMER INJECTED MOLD, BUT SOMETHING POORMAN CAN DO.....


HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

WHAT IF UNCLE OBAMA BANN BARREL FOR ALL SEMI-AUTO GUN (EXCEPT RIM FIRE )


HOW MANY OF YOU CAN TURN BARREL FOR AR-15 OR ANYOTHER SEMI-AUTO RIFLE/CARBINE FROM BARREL BLANK?

WELL ITS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.


THX FOR THE FEED BACK.
8/8/2014 4:53:46 AM EDT
[#6]
What about those 3-D plastic printers?  You could make almost anything with those.
8/8/2014 5:04:04 AM EDT
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Awhile back someone posted pics of a 3D printed magazine & spring.
8/8/2014 6:44:33 PM EDT
[#8]

I think this thread belongs in GD








8/8/2014 6:52:55 PM EDT
[#9]


How are you going to build a magazine if you can't fix your broken CAPS Lock button on your keyboard?

8/8/2014 6:54:45 PM EDT
[#10]
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 THX GUYS, THAT WAS THE EXACT ANSWER I WAS EXPECTING.

BENDING THIN SHEET METAL AND FORMING IT INTO A MAGAZINE SOUND EASY. GETTING IT RIGHT IS THE HARD PART.
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT SMALL.

HOW ABOUT HOME MADE POLYMER BASE MAGAZINE FOR AR? NO BENDING REQUIRE.

ALL YOU NEED IS THE MAGAZINE MOLD, POLYMER AND THE KNOW HOW.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN POLYMER INJECTED MOLD, BUT SOMETHING POORMAN CAN DO.....


HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

WHAT IF UNCLE OBAMA BANN BARREL FOR ALL SEMI-AUTO GUN (EXCEPT RIM FIRE )


HOW MANY OF YOU CAN TURN BARREL FOR AR-15 OR ANYOTHER SEMI-AUTO RIFLE/CARBINE FROM BARREL BLANK?

WELL ITS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.


THX FOR THE FEED BACK.
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Holy capslock, Batman......

DSG just had a windowed 30 rd PMAG deal where 10 mags worked out to around $9 a mag, shipped.

Look around.
8/8/2014 6:57:38 PM EDT
[#11]
Taking 300 million guns from 330 million people is a fools errand.
8/8/2014 6:57:43 PM EDT
[#12]
I would make a mold from an existing mag and them make PMags.
8/8/2014 7:04:18 PM EDT
[#13]
"Buy 'em cheap and stack 'em deep".

Not worth the effort to make one.

This goes for mags and barrels.

There are theoretical scenarios that are hypothetically more feasible for procuring the required equipment at the necessary time post exhaustion of ones current cashe.
8/8/2014 7:06:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Are the Brownells mags any good?
8/8/2014 7:08:49 PM EDT
[#15]
making 13'ers look good
8/8/2014 7:09:39 PM EDT
[#16]
I like the idea of homemade anything.  Doing things myself is my favorite past time.  I don't think a magazine is very practical, but it's worth trying!  I've modified some magazines before, lowered capacity, adapted to fit different guns or look different.  I'd say get yourself some inexpensive magazine and use it as a guideline for your build.  The feed lips will be the most crucial part I imagine.  My modified magazines always used feed lips from the actual magazine for the gun.  Play around with it, it's sure to be a worthwhile experience no matter what the end results.
8/8/2014 7:11:07 PM EDT
[#17]
All your magazine are belong to us.
8/8/2014 7:11:26 PM EDT
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8/8/2014 7:15:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Don't worry about magazines.



Don't worry about magazines.



Don't worry about magazines.



Etc.
8/8/2014 7:21:01 PM EDT
[#20]
A very different first post, welcome to Arfcom.
8/8/2014 7:23:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Going into the last third or so of the year, and finally a worthy contender for the "2014 Thread Of The Year" award.
8/8/2014 7:24:37 PM EDT
[#22]
OP you in Politics?



Just wondering since you seemed to have ideas to fix problems that don't exist while ignoring the obvious solution.



Just buy a fuckton of magazines now.
8/8/2014 7:32:07 PM EDT
[#23]
If things ever get that bad, somebody will be printing the damn things, so stock up on springs if you're really worried about that.

I see no reason to worry though.

8/8/2014 7:32:12 PM EDT
[#24]

8/8/2014 7:35:30 PM EDT
[#25]
I have over 200 30 round mags for both ARs and AKs. I'd say I probably have close to 500 mags when you count my Glocks and other guns. I'd say they are going to out live me.



That is before the boat accident of course.



 
8/8/2014 7:38:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Magazines are pretty tough to get right. Moreso when you are dealing with double stacks and the geometry is even more critical.
8/8/2014 7:51:55 PM EDT
[#27]
How many magazines do you need to last you the rest of your life?  Buy that many.  It will cost you less than developing a DIY version that's worth a crap, unless your time is worth absolutely nothing.
8/8/2014 7:55:00 PM EDT
[#28]
http://animalnewyork.com/2013/see-a-3d-printed-gun-magazine-in-action/

I don't think they had very good durability as I recall. Defense Distributed mirrors will have files for the magazines.
8/8/2014 7:57:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Hi Guys

I'm new here, so go easy on me ok...LOL

Anyway, a question pop up about homemade magazine/ DIY....
I know that magazine  are dime a dozen and available everywhere in many price range/ quality. But what if....what if our dearly beloved Obama went Koo-Ku and bann all sale of hi-capacity magazine in all 50 State.
What would you do? Will you go on every website in the internet and buy as many as you can. ( Tons of you guys are magazine junkie, you know who you are).

Eventually, all source will dry up and that is when we have to start making our own magazine. A lot of you guys are very capable and have a good work shop to work in, but for some of us folk, we  do not have a facility to make something.
But we got basic tool and we think we can do it

So I though there must be a cheap and reliable method of making your own magazine. I don’t think we should go in depth in subject such  as feeing issue, magazine catch, bolt hold open, ect.
That you got to tweak it on your own.

well, here's my questions.


1.) any of your guys attempt a homemade version? (I believe 10 or 20 round is much easier to work with)

2.) does anyone sell magazine flat where I can take buy it and bent it myself ? ( similar to when we build our own AK receiver from flat)

3.)  also, I’m going to need a jig to do it.  I don’t think it’s difficult to build a jig, but might not be easy to get it right the first time...lol

4.) can anyone tell me a good and cheap source for AR magazine floor plate? DMPS have them for $2.00 a piece  kinda expensive I think. and Brownell.....well, let just say that I don’t really want Brownell logo on my magazine floor plate.
     A colt or plain Jane one will do.

5.) Lastly, does anyone have a drawing for M16/AR-15 Magazine ?

Thx in advance and please share your though/ picture/ source


Jerry
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Why do you hate pluralization?
8/8/2014 8:01:10 PM EDT
[#30]
At the current cost of magazines you could buy a couple hundred now for less than it would cost to get setup to make them.
8/8/2014 8:03:47 PM EDT
[#31]
8/8/2014 8:03:58 PM EDT
[#32]
$6.99 mags at PSA
8/8/2014 8:10:13 PM EDT
[#33]
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The point of making things isn't always to save money, it's often just for the experience and the satisfaction of doing something yourself.  And he's not talking about putting together a manufacturing facility.  Some 18ga sheet metal and a welder and he'd be all set to make an unreliable / non-functional magazine, but knowledge and experience are priceless.  I kind of want to try it just for the hell of it now.
8/8/2014 8:23:39 PM EDT
[#34]
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 THX GUYS, THAT WAS THE EXACT ANSWER I WAS EXPECTING.

BENDING THIN SHEET METAL AND FORMING IT INTO A MAGAZINE SOUND EASY. GETTING IT RIGHT IS THE HARD PART.
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT SMALL.

HOW ABOUT HOME MADE POLYMER BASE MAGAZINE FOR AR? NO BENDING REQUIRE.

ALL YOU NEED IS THE MAGAZINE MOLD, POLYMER AND THE KNOW HOW.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN POLYMER INJECTED MOLD, BUT SOMETHING POORMAN CAN DO.....


HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

WHAT IF UNCLE OBAMA BANN BARREL FOR ALL SEMI-AUTO GUN (EXCEPT RIM FIRE )


HOW MANY OF YOU CAN TURN BARREL FOR AR-15 OR ANYOTHER SEMI-AUTO RIFLE/CARBINE FROM BARREL BLANK?

WELL ITS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.


THX FOR THE FEED BACK.
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STOP YELLING AT ME

Op mags are very hard to make stock up now, Obama is going to nothing for the next 2.25 years, except play a lot if golf.
8/8/2014 8:28:28 PM EDT
[#35]
OP should definitely stock up since he's living in a free state.  He should also get some sheet metal, a floorplate, follower and spring and try to make his own for shits and giggles.
8/8/2014 8:31:57 PM EDT
[#36]
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That's one way to put it.
8/8/2014 8:33:49 PM EDT
[#37]
I've thought about trying to make one, but much like most of this thread it was discouraged.
8/8/2014 8:34:28 PM EDT
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Eventually, all source will dry up and that is when we have to start making our own magazine.

Jerry Peggy


Why do you hate pluralization?


Yes?
8/8/2014 9:02:29 PM EDT
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Nevada has grown quite a crop this year - unfortunately they type just like they speak and spell.
8/8/2014 9:11:46 PM EDT
[#40]
OP, just buy a bunch of PMAGs for $9 each and call it a day. Don't overthink this or spend a lot of effort making your own.

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8/8/2014 9:12:48 PM EDT
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Hi Guys

I'm new here, so go easy on me ok...LOL

Anyway, a question pop up about homemade magazine/ DIY....
I know that magazine  are dime a dozen and available everywhere in many price range/ quality. But what if....what if our dearly beloved Obama went Koo-Ku and bann all sale of hi-capacity magazine in all 50 State.
What would you do? Will you go on every website in the internet and buy as many as you can. ( Tons of you guys are magazine junkie, you know who you are).

Eventually, all source will dry up and that is when we have to start making our own magazine. A lot of you guys are very capable and have a good work shop to work in, but for some of us folk, we  do not have a facility to make something.
But we got basic tool and we think we can do it

So I though there must be a cheap and reliable method of making your own magazine. I don’t think we should go in depth in subject such  as feeing issue, magazine catch, bolt hold open, ect.
That you got to tweak it on your own.

well, here's my questions.


1.) any of your guys attempt a homemade version? (I believe 10 or 20 round is much easier to work with)

2.) does anyone sell magazine flat where I can take buy it and bent it myself ? ( similar to when we build our own AK receiver from flat)

3.)  also, I’m going to need a jig to do it.  I don’t think it’s difficult to build a jig, but might not be easy to get it right the first time...lol

4.) can anyone tell me a good and cheap source for AR magazine floor plate? DMPS have them for $2.00 a piece  kinda expensive I think. and Brownell.....well, let just say that I don’t really want Brownell logo on my magazine floor plate.
     A colt or plain Jane one will do.

5.) Lastly, does anyone have a drawing for M16/AR-15 Magazine ?

Thx in advance and please share your though/ picture/ source


Jerry


Why do you hate pluralization?

He's probably Nigerian or something.
8/8/2014 9:45:55 PM EDT
[#42]
Jerry, welcome to ARFCOM.  If things get so bad you only have one magazine, turn the rifle upside down & use it as a ammo hopper.
8/8/2014 10:07:50 PM EDT
[#43]
I vaguely recall reading something one time about 3D printing a mag body and follower, and wrapping some kind of wire around a wood block for the spring.
8/8/2014 10:34:26 PM EDT
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IME, yes. About eight 20 rounders, all have worked for 3 years. Two 30 rounders work so far with limited use.



 
8/8/2014 10:38:39 PM EDT
[#45]

  1st post OP?      Maybe get a magazine subscription instead...... guns are icky.


8/8/2014 11:15:47 PM EDT
[#46]
GD never disappoints...  and I'm not talking about the OP, OP asks a very valid question that went over everyone's head.



Clearly OP, you can glean from the answers given that no one here for the most part has actually tried to make their own mags.





Nor have I.  BUT, I've repaired and modified AR-15 mags to work in AR-180's and have learned about one of the more important parts, feed lip geometry.





If you can get that right, then everything else is pretty straight forward.
8/8/2014 11:21:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Read OP with a Chinese accent. Much awesome.
8/9/2014 12:01:26 AM EDT
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http://defdist.tumblr.com/post/40395998801/defdist-printed-ar-mag-part-ii
8/9/2014 12:06:30 AM EDT
[#49]
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Just FYI, that's not possible, and would instead require an act of Congress - i.e. a bill passed in both the House and the Senate.

So, don't lay awake at night worrying about it, because the scenario you described cannot actually happen.  
8/9/2014 12:12:38 AM EDT
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So, don't lay awake at night worrying about it, because the scenario you described cannot actually happen.  
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But what if....what if our dearly beloved Obama went Koo-Ku and bann all sale of hi-capacity magazine in all 50 State.







Just FYI, that's not possible, and would instead require an act of Congress - i.e. a bill passed in both the House and the Senate.



So, don't lay awake at night worrying about it, because the scenario you described cannot actually happen.  
Doesn't mean he wouldn't try if he wanted.



 
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