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Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:08:17 AM EST
[#1]
I GTFO before it has a chance the crash


Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:08:49 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:09:28 AM EST
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My infantry platoon was doing training in Alaska in about 78.  Flew into some remote spot on a old CH47 loaded full of men and gear,
until some mechanical issue forced us into a really hard landing.

I swear that thing bounced 5’ after we hit.  Middle of nowhere and we had to wait for a second bird to pick us up.  Then a UH 1 shows up with mechanics and parts, fixes the Chinook and we had to get back on that damn thing.  Not even a test flight.
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But did you DIE?!
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:09:50 AM EST
[#4]
Stop feeling sorry for yourself.  If you're going to feel sorry for somebody feel sorry for all of the unlucky SOBs that are going to die because they got on a plane with you.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:10:39 AM EST
[#5]
Odds of dying in a plane crash 1 in 11 Million

Odds of dying in a car crash 1 in 107
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:11:09 AM EST
[#6]
I did get off a high wing twin engine on the East coast and got a rental car.  Fucking mechanic kept going out to #2, lifting the fairing, spraying LPS, and then coming in the A/C to check the instruments.

Fuck all that, I got the fuck off.  Plane didn't crash, probably because I got off.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:12:28 AM EST
[#7]
1. By actively suppressing my narcissistic tendencies and inflated sense of self.

2. Constantly reminding myself that in the grand scheme of things, I’m irrelevant.

Easy.

Duke
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:14:40 AM EST
[#8]
When I was growing up, fatal aircraft crashes happened on a regular basis.  Over the past few decades, many lessons have been learned from all that carnage and flying on a domestic airliner is incredibly safe.  The South West flight in 2018 that blew an engine and killed a passenger was the first death of a passenger on an airliner in years; and that was the last passenger fatality in the US.  But OP could be the next passenger, out of millions that safely fly, to die in a crash.  But probably not.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:15:37 AM EST
[#9]
I used to love flying, particularily at night when there are thunderstorms in the area. Always wanted to see a sprite, but it never happened.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:16:39 AM EST
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I GTFO before it has a chance the crash

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/20856/freefall-360132.jpg
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--Sir--you'll have to store your backpack in the overhead bin.

--This isn't a backpack.  It's a parachute.  And fuck you.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:17:08 AM EST
[#11]
Join the Army and go Airborne! You get tossed out of most planes before they get a chance to crash

Just to add some context, I was flying a chartered plane back from Egypt, flying over the Mediterranean and one of the engines caught fire...physically seeing that is...disconcerting. We turned around and my task force had to wait another 24 hours for a new plane.

I got to see tracers fly up at me in both a Chinook and C130 in Iraq. You're kind of helpless, hoping you don't get shot or shot down.

I was in a German CH53 Helo that took several rounds, nobody shot and we just Charlie-Miked.

My infamous "hard landing" crash in a Russian made Mi17 in Northern Afghanistan. It sucked, but I walked away (and flew away in another one).

I still fly, and I don't like long flights, you just learn to deal with it and there are some things in life, be they necessary or convenience, you have little control over. Some of your favorite music and a stiff drink can help.


ROCK6
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:17:23 AM EST
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You dont.  You either fly enough to get over it or you use some kind of drug.  Some use alcohol, Xanax or attivan.  Just tell your GP about flying anxiety.  They can prescribe a small dose of attivan.
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You dont.  You either fly enough to get over it or you use some kind of drug.  Some use alcohol, Xanax or attivan.  Just tell your GP about flying anxiety.  They can prescribe a small dose of attivan.
Pretty much this.  Facing your fears and flying enough times (aka "exposure therapy"), while it may take a while, will eventually reduce and may even eliminate your fears.  The alternative, anti-anxiety meds, are a short term solution but are also a "safety behavior" that will perpetuate and likely increase your fears in the long term.

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Quoted:Binge watch a few episodes of Air Disasters before your flight. Should settle you right down.  

I know he's joking, and it seems counter-intuitive, but that could actually be a part of your exposure therapy work.  If you worked with a counselor or psychologist on exposure therapy, it's very possible they'd start you off by watching air disaster videos.

Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:25:09 AM EST
[#13]
You can get killed walking your doggy.

I recommend getting on a C130 and doing a combat landing into Mosul where they corkscrew out of the sky as quickly as possible.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:29:45 AM EST
[#14]
Airliner flight, never an issue, look forward to taking a trip.
Couple thousand feet up alone in an R22, a bit more on edge.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:30:07 AM EST
[#15]
Make your peace with God through His Son Jesus Christ and you don't have to ever fear death...then you are free to
do all kinds of fun stuff if you like.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:34:35 AM EST
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And isn't it ironic?
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He waited his whole damn life, to take that flight, and as the plane crashed down he thought: Well isn't this nice?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc


And isn't it ironic?
Actually it isn't. It is just a coincidence. Just shitty luck.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:37:31 AM EST
[#17]
buy new tickets and switch planes right before your originally scheduled plane departs.  this gives you just enough window to throw fate off.

Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:39:24 AM EST
[#18]
If it doesn't crash with Danica Patrick on it, it won't crash with me on it.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:41:32 AM EST
[#19]
B. A. Baracus, is that you?


Seriously, you're far more likely to get killed in a car driving to work.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:44:47 AM EST
[#20]
You just put on your big boy pants and get on the plane.

What’s stronger-your fears or your will?

Are you going to let your fears rule you or are you going to rule your fears?
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 11:44:54 AM EST
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Odds of dying in a car crash 1 in 107
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*looks down at open palm hands*  "How am I still alive?...."
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 12:35:51 PM EST
[#22]
Booze is the answer you seek.

Richest guy I know refuses to fly.  He'll drive to Montana and back 5 times  a year instead of flying.  He has private jet money but just can't get past the fear.  You do what you gotta do.  How many deaths in the U.S. in the last 10 years due to a commercial airline crash?  See?

I was on a plane 2 times a week for almost 4 years straight.  Had some 'oh shit' moments but really nothing close to a major emergency.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 12:40:26 PM EST
[#23]
Take a Greyhound bus.  At least you will be entertained.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 12:40:34 PM EST
[#24]
Odds are in your favor but if it happens your won't have to worry about it again.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 12:59:49 PM EST
[#25]
Look into the last time one of the commercial jets crashed. They've gotten to be pretty rare.
Now if you flying with some private dude with a Piper then...............

Link Posted: 1/27/2023 1:13:32 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/27/2023 1:15:22 PM EST
[#27]
Ativan and a few drinks. At that point they could crash that mf’er into a mountainside and you wouldn’t give a fuck.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 1:17:45 PM EST
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Last time I got on a plane Reagan was president.
I dislike that if it crashes, I'll probably die, but that is only a small concern to my dislike for being disarmed while on the plane. Being nauseous ain't much fun either.
In summary driving eliminates all those issues.
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The act of flying or heights doesn’t bother me at all. It’s being locked in a fucking small tube with 100 unwashed sodomites for hours that makes me hate air travel.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 1:17:52 PM EST
[#29]
Plan something really unpleasant for the following day, like root canal.  You’re less likely to dies and if you are going to crash the you can at least look at the bright side of not having to do it.  Also don’t shovel your driveway beforehand, just in case.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 1:23:04 PM EST
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Thats why I got a AmEx Platinum card. Get tanked in the sky club then take a nap watching a movie with my sennheiser noise canceling headphones in first class.


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Never has a first post been more FPNI.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 2:02:22 PM EST
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Take a xanax
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That's what I did as a business flyer when I went through a 5 year period of an irrational fear of flying. Maybe it was due to the 2001 situation, honestly don't know. Anyway, after a few years of flight anxiety I swallowed my pride and asked my doctor, who then recommended xanax. Worked well. And then one day, the fear left just as quickly as it had started. That was the last time I took it to help (2006).
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 2:15:31 PM EST
[#32]
I already had my aircraft and helicopter incidents and lived through them.
Chances of me being on an aircraft or helicopter and having any more incidents is statistically dam low.

Besides..I’m not in any position to do anything about it anyway. Bring me a cocktail please. If I go down. I’m going relaxed with bourbon in my hand.
Link Posted: 1/27/2023 2:55:46 PM EST
[#33]
Exactly what did you do to piss off the Clintons?
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:56:44 PM EST
[#34]
understand that even if you wanted to, your chances of being on plane that crashes are very slim.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:04:28 PM EST
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Take a xanax
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This. Fuck, take a bar and you’ll think you’re flying the fly for about 10 minutes before you pass the fuck out, get woken up by a stewardess being the last one off the plane and forgetting everything about the last four hours and barely remember where you’re going.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:08:34 PM EST
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Weird shit happens to me and around me, and I have this fear that me being on the plane will somehow increase the probability of something happening.  

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I've experienced one oxygen mask drop, one runway excursion, one near miss - evasive maneuvers required, two in flight medical emergencies, one complete shutdown on a take off roll, three diversions to alternate airports, one aircraft evacuation, one near stall in icing conditions (at least in my opinion - felt very mushy on climb out), and yet I still fly - though I prefer to be the one flying.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 7:15:46 PM EST
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I got no issues with aircraft but I understand irrational fear.  

Solo wilderness camping…as soon as darkness comes I get pretty damn anxious.  Have to keep reminding myself that there’s nothing different in the woods except the lights are turned off.
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Me too. Was almost killed by a pool drain as a single digit-age kid. Im 31 and still get panicky if I swim near one. Feels like I'm getting sucked towards it, but I know it is all in my head.
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