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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:17:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be honest, French men are not noted for being tall compared to other ethnic groups. To say he was average would imply he was short. Westerners today are tall by historical standards. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:23:30 PM EDT
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None of them, I actually read history books......and not the myth books prevalent in public schools.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:25:57 PM EDT
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Phew, at least Santa and the Easter Bunny are real!
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A large portion of England was 'resettled' by Vikings. Normans and the Normandy region of France was named for the Norseman. Russians are named after the Rus, who were Scandinavian settlers. A lot of modern English is due to the people having to learn to converse with each other. You can thank the multiple invasions of England for us having a variety of rules for grammar, such as plurals: mice/mouse, moose/moose, horse/horses. I had a class in Norwegian during college. It was fairly easy to pick up because of the similarities. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:33:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: God helps those that help themselves isn’t actually in the Bible. agreed The word Bible isn’t in the Bible. nit picking, The word ‘Bible’ comes from the Greek word biblion, which originally referred to papyrus or scroll books. The word Trinity isn’t in the Bible. again true but nit picking. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Neither is the word rapture. comes from Matthew 24:29-31 |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: God helps those that help themselves isn’t actually in the Bible. The word Bible isn’t in the Bible. The word Trinity isn’t in the Bible. Neither is the word rapture. Correct.... in fact it is the opposite. Matthew 6:26 :Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?" |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, contrary to popular belief - most Vikings were farmers. And when the Vikings traveled to foreign lands, they generally acted as traders. There was very little rape, pillaging, plundering, and rape. You said rape twice. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:44:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Apparently not one single stock broker took a swan dive during the 1929 stock market crash.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 3:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Socrates was reputed to be 71 years old when he was forced to drink Hemlock tea as his method of execution |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:12:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoever actually said "Let them eat cake," for much of my life I thought the word "cake" referred to a sweet, baked confection. I learned otherwise at about age 40. A cake bite? [/RedVsBlue] |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:20:18 PM EDT
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2. Did not know that, but makes sense. We've known we were nomadic hunter gatherers for a long time. 3. Did not know that. 4. Knew that, although I believed the lie for a long time though too. 5. Never knew that, but I don't know much about British royalty anyway. 6. I knew that one. It came up in something I watched long ago on the history channel. 7. Didn't know that. But makes sense. Lots of information out there publish/written by dudes in their late middle age or even older. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, road apples. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whoever actually said "Let them eat cake," for much of my life I thought the word "cake" referred to a sweet, baked confection. I learned otherwise at about age 40. "Cakes" = cakes of dung, iirc Yep, road apples. Is the claim that the French is the word "brioche" as slang for horse dung, some unwitting translator thought that Americans used "cake" in the same way, and nobody else bothered to reference the original text? |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:26:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Humpty Dumpty did not fall, he was pushed. And the fucking lazy-assed horses did jack and shit to help. They just stood around while the King's men tried to re-assemble the poor egg. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:26:41 PM EDT
[#14]
1,4,7.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone attacked by Vikings likely considered them savages. But they would have been rather advanced savages in many ways. Migration era Anglo-Saxons were pretty much the same culture as the Vikings. Weapons, ships, gods and language all very similar. Early English is closer to Scandinavian than German I believe. And Roman references to battling "the barbarian hoard" were talking about Germanic tribes, not Vikings. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 4:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And Roman references to battling "the barbarian hoard" were talking about Germanic tribes, not Vikings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone attacked by Vikings likely considered them savages. But they would have been rather advanced savages in many ways. Migration era Anglo-Saxons were pretty much the same culture as the Vikings. Weapons, ships, gods and language all very similar. Early English is closer to Scandinavian than German I believe. And Roman references to battling "the barbarian hoard" were talking about Germanic tribes, not Vikings. The whole period is often inconsistently defined. prince Rurik is considered a Viking, yet his Rus kingdom was established before some timelines consider the "Viking Age" to have begun. A lot of this all ties to who wrote what down. The idea of calling raiding tribes "Vikings" seems to have some (ironically) from the Anglo-Saxon rulers of Britannia at the time (I mean, how dare these other Norse tribes invade the land our norse tribes invaded and conquered fair and square a bit ago!) with later historians applying that term and concept to other raiding and migratory tribes. There is so little actual history, it's tough to piece together and we generally have to combine sagas with exposure to literate civilizations with archeology. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:06:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole period is often inconsistently defined. prince Rurik is considered a Viking, yet his Rus kingdom was established before some timelines consider the "Viking Age" to have begun. A lot of this all ties to who wrote what down. The idea of calling raiding tribes "Vikings" seems to have some (ironically) from the Anglo-Saxon rulers of Britannia at the time (I mean, how dare these other Norse tribes invade the land our norse tribes invaded and conquered fair and square a bit ago!) with later historians applying that term and concept to other raiding and migratory tribes. There is so little actual history, it's tough to piece together and we generally have to combine sagas with exposure to literate civilizations with archeology. To be fair, the Christian era Anglo-Saxons invaded by Vikings probably didn't know how similar their ancestors were to Vikings. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:09:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Westerners today are tall by historical standards. Vikings were about 5'8", and late Middle Ages English about 5'7". US today is 5'9". |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a huge deal. Orson Wells discussed it repeatedly on several of his shows. I imagine he had reasons to make it seem significant. I remain unconvinced (although I wouldn't bet much on it). |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:11:20 PM EDT
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A lot of that stuff is kinda half truths or debatable.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:14:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, the Christian era Anglo-Saxons invaded by Vikings probably didn't know how similar their ancestors were to Vikings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The whole period is often inconsistently defined. prince Rurik is considered a Viking, yet his Rus kingdom was established before some timelines consider the "Viking Age" to have begun. A lot of this all ties to who wrote what down. The idea of calling raiding tribes "Vikings" seems to have some (ironically) from the Anglo-Saxon rulers of Britannia at the time (I mean, how dare these other Norse tribes invade the land our norse tribes invaded and conquered fair and square a bit ago!) with later historians applying that term and concept to other raiding and migratory tribes. There is so little actual history, it's tough to piece together and we generally have to combine sagas with exposure to literate civilizations with archeology. To be fair, the Christian era Anglo-Saxons invaded by Vikings probably didn't know how similar their ancestors were to Vikings. I'd say that's more than fair, as one of the major themes that seem to define civilizational perceptions and how we define eras relates to religion. We generally consider the viking age to have ended when the vikings became Christians. They became "one of us." |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:15:46 PM EDT
[#22]
The horns were not on the Viking helmets.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:17:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You said rape twice. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:18:29 PM EDT
[#24]
To think I believed that paul revere guy
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're correct about the viking helmets, but I have other proof. https://d1vlhxry9oul9s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/giphy.gif I rest my case 
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:24:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think it was as big a deal it was made out to be. Probably was bigger when the repeated it in Peru in the 70s (the radio station was attacked). It was a big deal, but it was mostly a big deal in a small section of the country, it wasn’t natiinwide and it wasn’t reported then as nationwide. As my father told me it centered on rural Pennsylvania and New Jersey and mostly in people that missed that it was a dramatization. My dad lived in NYC at that time and said it was pretty funny to them. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:30:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Joe Biden didn’t get 80 plus million votes.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:30:34 PM EDT
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#6 is bullshit. I seent the pics.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He likes rape. 
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a big deal, but it was mostly a big deal in a small section of the country, it wasn’t natiinwide and it wasn’t reported then as nationwide. As my father told me it centered on rural Pennsylvania and New Jersey and mostly in people that missed that it was a dramatization. My dad lived in NYC at that time and said it was pretty funny to them. My dad heard it and realized it was a prank. He thought it was funny. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:39:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...it centered on rural Pennsylvania and New Jersey ... 
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoever actually said "Let them eat cake," for much of my life I thought the word "cake" referred to a sweet, baked confection. I learned otherwise at about age 40. It was about flour. Hard flour with more gluten was used for bread. Soft flour with less gluten was used for lighter baked goods like cake. Cake flour was a luxury and was taxed, but bread flour was seen as a necessity for life and not taxed or not taxed as heavily. When there was a shortage of bread flour leaving people short of basic food, the monarchy said "let them eat cake" meaning to temporarily lift the tax on cake flour so everyone could afford flour to bake something for daily eating. Or so the story goes. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 5:48:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go down into the rio grande valley and dig in literally any of the thousands of caves, I guarantee each and every one of them were used as habitation sites. I know this for a fact. Not much of the world has caves, but I sure would have had one. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:00:39 PM EDT
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When I was a kid I honestly believed Native Americans all lived in peace and harmony with Mother Nature until the evil white European settlers came. However, I continue to learn how things were WAY more complicated than that.
The crap they feed you as a child in public schools is ridiculous. The world is way more complex than the public schools present it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:19:07 PM EDT
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Hollywood does a lot to develop stereotypes. It is a cheap way to make memorable characters and extra profits. The truth is almost always something else.
# 7 I do question. I find it difficult for Europe to lose 40% of its population due to the Black Plague and the life expectancy not change. England, France, Spain, and Italy lost between 50% and 60% of their populations in two years. It took 150 years for the European population to recover. Wars also took a break. Those who survived were healthier and had better immunity so they probably did live longer. How many were sterilized by the disease? Though the survivors were now more immune, food production and trade fell through the floor. The social restructuring caused an enormous upheaval. It took Same with the period of the Hundred Years War. A lot of warriors died in the prime of their lives. That had to affect the replacement rate. https://www.sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2022/08/conversation-old-age-is-not-a-modern-phenomenon.php#.Y36UhS-B3T8 https://sc.edu/uofsc/announcements/2014/05_sharondewitte_blackdeath_plosonejournal.php#.Y36b0C-B3T8 |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:20:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He likes rape. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You said rape twice. Still funny 48 years later. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: God helps those that help themselves isn’t actually in the Bible. The word Bible isn’t in the Bible. The word Trinity isn’t in the Bible. Neither is the word rapture. Here's one for you. Supposedly 85% of the time when Jesus or his disciples quote from the Old Testament, they quote word-for-word from the Septuagint rather than the Masoretic text that is the basis of most modern Old Testament translations. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:27:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vikings also didn't dress like outlaw bikers. They coveted fine fabrics in bright colors. LOL This one always made me laugh. Remember "It isn't over until the Fat Lady sings," then they show some land whale wearing a horned helmet? Ya, Hollywood (and Broadway) strikes again. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: God helps those that help themselves isn’t actually in the Bible. The word Bible isn’t in the Bible. The word Trinity isn’t in the Bible. Neither is the word rapture. The word Bible isn’t in the Bible. The word Bible is the first word in the book "Bible of the Bible" The word Trinity isn’t in the Bible. Trinity was the name of the third Blade movie. Neither is the word rapture. Blondies "Rapture" was the first rap song played on MTV and Biden said the government will help everyone if you obey us and get your covid shots. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:31:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: 5. Marie Antoinette never actually uttered the famous phrase “let them eat cake,” in response to learning that her subjects were starving that’s so often attributed to her. In fact, it was first published in Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and attributed to “a great princess.” At the time, Marie Antoinette would’ve been just nine years old. [Citation needed] |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:39:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: [Citation needed] Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 5. Marie Antoinette never actually uttered the famous phrase “let them eat cake,” in response to learning that her subjects were starving that’s so often attributed to her. In fact, it was first published in Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and attributed to “a great princess.” At the time, Marie Antoinette would’ve been just nine years old. [Citation needed] Is Encyclopedia Britannica credible enough ? https://www.britannica.com/story/did-marie-antoinette-really-say-let-them-eat-cake |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:41:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: [Citation needed] Came to post this. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:43:55 PM EDT
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Except for the American Indians, they dropped like flies if you believe the hype. They were raiding villages, enslaving each other, and wiping out tribes long before the Europeans came. Now we are finding out they weren't the first. Just more hype. Who wiped them out? Ya, you guessed it, time-traveling aliens. The Indians could never do such foul deeds.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:44:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: 1. Napoleon Bonaparte wasn’t all that short. In fact, he was actually slightly taller than the average Frenchman at the time... Napoleon's favorite horse, Marengo, (the one he's usually pictured on) was an Arabian stallion only 14.1 Hands (57") high at his withers. Horses under 14.2 Hands are classified as ponies. ETA: Today, parts of Marengo are still on display. After the Changing of the Guard Ceremony at Buckingham Palace in London, when the Captain sits down to lunch. In front of him he will see one of Marengo’s hooves covered with a polished silver lid. When the item (a snuff box) is not in use on the table, it sits on the nearby sideboard. On the lid is the inscription that reads, Hoof of Marengo, Barb charger of Napoleon, ridden by him at Marengo, Austerlitz, Jena, Wagram, in the campaign of Russia and lastly at Waterloo. This hoof was presented on April 8, 1840 by J.W. Angerstein Captain Grenadier Guards and Lieutenant-Colonel to his brother officers of the Household Brigade. Marengo’s other two hooves are on display with his preserved skeleton at the Waterloo Gallery at the National Army Museum in Chelsea; his fourth hoof and skin are missing, and as of this writing have still not been found. SOURCE |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:47:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, contrary to popular belief - most Vikings were farmers. And when the Vikings traveled to foreign lands, they generally acted as traders. There was very little rape, pillaging, plundering, and rape. So you read the Prince Valiant comic strips growing up to? I couldn't wait for the Sunday comics to arrive. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:54:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the fucking lazy-assed horses did jack and shit to help. They just stood around while the King's men tried to re-assemble the poor egg. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Humpty Dumpty did not fall, he was pushed. And the fucking lazy-assed horses did jack and shit to help. They just stood around while the King's men tried to re-assemble the poor egg. Who said Humpty Dumpty was an egg? |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:56:10 PM EDT
[#47]
There was no Vikings but there was men who went a Viking.
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Posted: 11/23/2022 7:01:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was a kid I honestly believed Native Americans all lived in peace and harmony with Mother Nature until the evil white European settlers came. However, I continue to learn how things were WAY more complicated than that. The crap they feed you as a child in public schools is ridiculous. The world is way more complex than the public schools present it. We were told: Indians only took what they needed to survive, yet many tribes would send out hunting parties for weeks at a time. What I found out: A lot of settlements had dead zones around them where almost nothing lived due to over hunting. Hunting parties often traveled long distances to find game |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 7:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Encyclopedia Britannica credible enough ? https://www.britannica.com/story/did-marie-antoinette-really-say-let-them-eat-cake Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5. Marie Antoinette never actually uttered the famous phrase “let them eat cake,” in response to learning that her subjects were starving that’s so often attributed to her. In fact, it was first published in Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and attributed to “a great princess.” At the time, Marie Antoinette would’ve been just nine years old. [Citation needed] Is Encyclopedia Britannica credible enough ? https://www.britannica.com/story/did-marie-antoinette-really-say-let-them-eat-cake Considering that even they don't have a comprehensive record of everything she said, no. And even that article doesn't give a definitive answer. |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 7:03:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was no Vikings but there was men who went a Viking. 
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