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Posted: 8/28/2022 12:54:41 AM EDT
[#1]
Burn a cross or two between the trailers.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:07:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, it's two "scrap" trailers with half-broken septic on a 3/4 acre lot in MO. I don't think there's anything he can do to make it more of a shithole. The nearest municipal waste water plant is always looking for a place to get rid of biosolid sludge. Have the land "fertalized"  One phone call can turn the metaphor into the literal. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:11:55 AM EDT
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All my properties are in highly desirable/high demand area. No trash renters at the moment because if they get evicted, they will be basically homeless since so few rentals around here so all have been trouble free thus far. Knock on wood.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:14:32 AM EDT
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Trailers are like Christmas trees… one spark and they’ll burn like a motherfucker.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:21:38 AM EDT
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Lol, when they are gone buying groceries or lotto tix, burn it to the ground. LOL
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:28:06 AM EDT
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Do they have kids? You could involve CPS if the property is truly unfit.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:05:28 AM EDT
[#7]
send Rip.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:24:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: do you own pigs? This is the answer you seek |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:32:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: How do you get rid of these scum bags. In case this is still page one: can dad reasonably operate a firearm? Sounds like you're going to need an eviction lawyer. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:32:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: send Rip. 
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:41:04 AM EDT
[#11]
I know a guy... 'Frankie the Fixer'
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:44:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:46:25 AM EDT
[#13]
By maing a place uninhabitable, it's called constructive eviction. Better check with the state law. Can the landlord retake the property for development?
In this case, I'd want to make it pasture land for cattle grazing (no human habitation) or sheep farming. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 8:55:51 AM EDT
[#14]
Start the eviction process. You can find the forms/process online.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-eviction-process-missouri-rules-landlords-property-managers.html They damaged the sewer system, right? Try to get some pics of their vehicles/stuff improperly parked on the septic system. If they take this to court, you want some evidence this is this their fault. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:00:22 AM EDT
[#15]
I don't understand your problem. Did you start the eviction process? Here in Michigan I can have a bad renter out and about 6 to 7 weeks
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:09:05 AM EDT
[#16]
@cb69
They can't stop you from making "repairs / renovations" Remove all exterior windows and doors and simply tell the state you are renovating. When I started "renovating" in February , house was empty in less than a week 
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:12:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand your problem. Did you start the eviction process? Here in Michigan I can have a bad renter out and about 6 to 7 weeks Now that the renter has talked to a lawyer this is a five way shit show with the county riding their asses over the sewer, an eviction that should have started already, no money or desire to fix the property, a tenant that has talked to an attorney and could be talking about a suit over the condition of the trailer and septic system, and a pissed off neighbor. I'll bet the septic "system" is 4 inch PVC pipe running to the edge of the property. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:32:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rent a directional drilling rig... make sure you have that bit spinning mud all over when it pops up. There's no better alarm clock than the sound of floor hands cussing while throwing chain. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:43:36 AM EDT
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Report the septic issue and the local health department not addressing the issue to the State dept of health.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:49:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question cause I am curious - so if the trailers bring $400 per mo each and it’s 20k for a new septic system how is that not worth puttin in a new septic? Just some quick math that’s a 25 month payback. Hell I would put a new septic in and a couple nicer trailers and raise the rent. Now go evict the shithead Because he can only keep one trailer due to the newer dnr septic requirements for the new system. So that makes it a 50 month payback with a trailer that won’t live that long. And new trailers combined with new septic will take even longer to pay back. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:52:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except these were there on the property prior to enacting the code, right? It doesn’t really matter about when they were there. Missouri dnr I’m most cases won’t let you do anything to an existing basic septic system. They require a tear out and an installation of a modern perch system in different location on the property. $20-30k depending on where you live. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:55:54 AM EDT
[#22]
You can usually do a holding tank with contracted pump-outs on a set schedule to buy time until the septic is fixed.
Like with a 1500 gallon septic, pumping it every week may suffice. Check the local regulations. Also check your lease regarding termination, ours says if the house is uninhabitable due to act of God, unforeseen circumstance, or necessary major repairs, they're terminated with no action against us. The county says its uninhabitable, they gotta go, so eviction is easy. I would consider tearing down both shitty houses, and throw up one manufactured home. Kharn |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 10:00:17 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Start the formal eviction on Monday. That lot size doesn't leave much room for any septic system but a lagoon. Laterals wouldn't be permitted on a lot that size in this county. My county considers a 10,000 square foot reserve area sufficient for one septic installation and two revisions, so the back yard of a 1/2 acre property. Two systems on 3/4 acre would be extremely tight.  Kharn |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 10:33:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My county considers a 10,000 square foot reserve area sufficient for one septic installation and two revisions, so the back yard of a 1/2 acre property. Two systems on 3/4 acre would be extremely tight. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Start the formal eviction on Monday. That lot size doesn't leave much room for any septic system but a lagoon. Laterals wouldn't be permitted on a lot that size in this county. My county considers a 10,000 square foot reserve area sufficient for one septic installation and two revisions, so the back yard of a 1/2 acre property. Two systems on 3/4 acre would be extremely tight. Kharn |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 10:59:04 AM EDT
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Sounds like this has been creeping up for a while, with you and your brother not lifting a finger about it. Not like the mess with the septic is something you found out yesterday, right? And being the landlords, you take the rent money, but fail to maintain the property in a liveable condition. Now that the county is breathing down your neck, you want things quick and dirty.
Talk to a lawyer, especially if your brother is under a threat of violating some court order. Start the court process to legally evict the tenants, and ask the court for an extension, until this is completed. Check your own state laws about this. In reality, as a landlord, you should’ve had them memorised already. Do not do anything retarded, like lock them out or make their lives impossible, because this will be the tenant’s defense, and your eviction will get tossed. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:03:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trailers are like Christmas trees… one spark and they’ll burn like a motherfucker. Sure would be a shame if they had an accident from their crazy extension cord mess one day while they were all out of the house. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:05:31 AM EDT
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Also it sounds like you need to talk to some county commissioners or something about the contradicting garbage from the county and the runaround.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:41:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The response depends upon how willing you are to do shady shit, or get your hands dirty. Going through the legal system will take 3-6 months and the shit tenants will likely trash the property. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:49:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:58:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Start the eviction process. You can find the forms/process online. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-eviction-process-missouri-rules-landlords-property-managers.html They damaged the sewer system, right? Try to get some pics of their vehicles/stuff improperly parked on the septic system. If they take this to court, you want some evidence this is this their fault. Agreed, good idea saying that the tenants damaged the septic system in case they try to sue for some health related issue. Take them to civil court, it's not anything to be scared of. Two ways to go at it, if the lease is expired, you can kick them out for no lease and it's a little easier than trying to kick them out for non payment as the judge might give them time to pay, or they might file to determine how much rent is due. You need to post a notice that the lease is expired and they need to move, the notices are diffferent from state to state and county to county, so probably get an attorney to help you with that as it gets the ball rolling on the eviction. Whatever you do, don't follow any of the suggestions about removing the doors, or fucking the place up trying to do a self help eviction. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:22:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, good idea saying that the tenants damaged the septic system in case they try to sue for some health related issue. Take them to civil court, it's not anything to be scared of. Two ways to go at it, if the lease is expired, you can kick them out for no lease and it's a little easier than trying to kick them out for non payment as the judge might give them time to pay, or they might file to determine how much rent is due. You need to post a notice that the lease is expired and they need to move, the notices are diffferent from state to state and county to county, so probably get an attorney to help you with that as it gets the ball rolling on the eviction. Whatever you do, don't follow any of the suggestions about removing the doors, or fucking the place up trying to do a self help eviction. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Start the eviction process. You can find the forms/process online. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-eviction-process-missouri-rules-landlords-property-managers.html They damaged the sewer system, right? Try to get some pics of their vehicles/stuff improperly parked on the septic system. If they take this to court, you want some evidence this is this their fault. Agreed, good idea saying that the tenants damaged the septic system in case they try to sue for some health related issue. Take them to civil court, it's not anything to be scared of. Two ways to go at it, if the lease is expired, you can kick them out for no lease and it's a little easier than trying to kick them out for non payment as the judge might give them time to pay, or they might file to determine how much rent is due. You need to post a notice that the lease is expired and they need to move, the notices are diffferent from state to state and county to county, so probably get an attorney to help you with that as it gets the ball rolling on the eviction. Whatever you do, don't follow any of the suggestions about removing the doors, or fucking the place up trying to do a self help eviction. A court order to force eviction is required in Missouri. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:35:17 PM EDT
[#32]
Trailers? Wait till they leave , put the wheels back on it and when they come back " trailer? We don't have no stinking trailer !"
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Posted: 8/28/2022 5:52:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Telling the tenants to leave due to an expired lease is a Hail Mary in hopes they're intimidated enough to leave. I expect the attorney that sent the letter told them to ignore the next time, too. A court order to force eviction is required in Missouri. I agree that they will ignore the notice, but it's a legally required step in starting an eviction process, post the notice and take gps and date stamped pictures of it on site. |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 10:39:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree that they will ignore the notice, but it's a legally required step in starting an eviction process, post the notice and take gps and date stamped pictures of it on site. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Telling the tenants to leave due to an expired lease is a Hail Mary in hopes they're intimidated enough to leave. I expect the attorney that sent the letter told them to ignore the next time, too. A court order to force eviction is required in Missouri. I agree that they will ignore the notice, but it's a legally required step in starting an eviction process, post the notice and take gps and date stamped pictures of it on site. The process is well defined, and the property owner must follow every step, starting with the paperwork with every entry complete and correct. |
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