Posted: 9/26/2016 8:28:51 AM EDT
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300 bench 300 squat 300 deadlift. Is that strong for an average poster?
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Those would be funny numbers ratio wise. Bench body weight, squat body weight 1.5, deadlift bodyweight 2.0 is a good starting point. I am not that strong. What I was thinking. I can't say a whole lot as a herniated disc has killed my squat. 300 is a respectable bench. It would be weird if you couldn't deadlift a bit more than you squat though. And both should be a lot more than your bench. |
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I need to work on my BP and Squat.
Bench is 205 lbs Squat 250 lbs Deadlift 325 lbs Don't know why my DL is so much better. Benching without a spotter always freaks me out so I tend to go lighter, probably hampering my gains. I'm in my thirties, so healing takes longer too. 
What's a good BW ratio for overhead barbell press? Mine is only 95 lbs without cheating. |
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I need to work on my BP and Squat. Bench is 205 lbs Squat 250 lbs Deadlift 325 lbs Don't know why my DL is so much better. Benching without a spotter always freaks me out so I tend to go lighter, probably hampering my gains. I'm in my thirties, so healing takes longer too.
What's a good BW ratio for overhead barbell press? Mine is only 95 lbs without cheating. Those are about normal I'd say. Unless you have stubby arms/legs and long torso, your deadlift should be more than your squat. |
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I was always under the impression that if one can work out with their body weight for 10 reps per set, they are strong. Every time I get close to my body weight on squats and deadlifts, something happens and I start over again. Last month I injured my back by sneezing and a couple of weeks ago I injured my knee by slipping on wet concrete. I just lower the weight and start building up again. Also, my overhead press is my weakest exercise.  |
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300 bench 300 squat 300 deadlift. Is that strong for an average poster? I know some posters here double or triple those numbers so please don't laugh. Solid numbers, if a little skewed towards bench. How much do you weigh? How tall are you, and how old? At this point of my life (about to be 27) I'm trying to be strong, lean, and flexible so that I remain uninjured into my 30s and 40s. 6' 180, BENCH 225, SQUAT 300, DEAD 325. I can do 25 pull ups straight and that's more important to me than raw numbers. |
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Those are about normal I'd say. Unless you have stubby arms/legs and long torso, your deadlift should be more than your squat. Quoted:
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I need to work on my BP and Squat. Bench is 205 lbs Squat 250 lbs Deadlift 325 lbs Don't know why my DL is so much better. Benching without a spotter always freaks me out so I tend to go lighter, probably hampering my gains. I'm in my thirties, so healing takes longer too.
What's a good BW ratio for overhead barbell press? Mine is only 95 lbs without cheating. Those are about normal I'd say. Unless you have stubby arms/legs and long torso, your deadlift should be more than your squat. I am about the same, and can maintain it with minimal effort. A decent program will improve gains, but I tend to jump around. BJJ is a priority over strength right now. |
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Solid numbers, if a little skewed towards bench. How much do you weigh? How tall are you, and how old? At this point of my life (about to be 27) I'm trying to be strong, lean, and flexible so that I remain uninjured into my 3rd and 40s. 6' 180, BENCH 225, SQUAT 300, DEAD 325. I can do 25 pull ups straight and that's more important to me than raw numbers. Quoted:
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300 bench 300 squat 300 deadlift. Is that strong for an average poster? I know some posters here double or triple those numbers so please don't laugh. Solid numbers, if a little skewed towards bench. How much do you weigh? How tall are you, and how old? At this point of my life (about to be 27) I'm trying to be strong, lean, and flexible so that I remain uninjured into my 3rd and 40s. 6' 180, BENCH 225, SQUAT 300, DEAD 325. I can do 25 pull ups straight and that's more important to me than raw numbers. 300 deadlift is solid? Maybe for a woman. |
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300 bench 300 squat 300 deadlift. Is that strong for an average poster? I know some posters here double or triple those numbers so please don't laugh. 3/4/5 is entry level. Agree. but still in before the "nobody can really lift that much", and cardio is more important people. |
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I agree with the above. If we're defining "strong" I'd say you enter (the lower end of) that realm when you're repping your body weight 10x on the compound lifts mentioned. I'd also say 1.5 body weight single rep max on flat bench, 2.0 squat/dead would be "strong," or a 1000 lb big three total would also be seen as "strong" by most.
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300 deadlift is solid? Maybe for a woman. Quoted:
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300 bench 300 squat 300 deadlift. Is that strong for an average poster? I know some posters here double or triple those numbers so please don't laugh. Solid numbers, if a little skewed towards bench. How much do you weigh? How tall are you, and how old? At this point of my life (about to be 27) I'm trying to be strong, lean, and flexible so that I remain uninjured into my 3rd and 40s. 6' 180, BENCH 225, SQUAT 300, DEAD 325. I can do 25 pull ups straight and that's more important to me than raw numbers. 300 deadlift is solid? Maybe for a woman. Maybe I should add: what gender? 
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I'd love to come crush the conex, when's the sign ups for the next one? Quoted:
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Cola Warrior times are all that matter. I'd love to come crush the conex, when's the sign ups for the next one? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1898315_CWE4___The_thread_you_ve_been_looking_for__STANDBY_LIST_CLOSED_FOR_NOW_.html No conex at East though. |
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ARFcom describes physical strength as the ability to climb the basement steps every time they run out of Cheetos or Mountain Dew. Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) |
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1898315_CWE4___The_thread_you_ve_been_looking_for__STANDBY_LIST_CLOSED_FOR_NOW_.html No conex at East though. Quoted:
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Cola Warrior times are all that matter. I'd love to come crush the conex, when's the sign ups for the next one? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1898315_CWE4___The_thread_you_ve_been_looking_for__STANDBY_LIST_CLOSED_FOR_NOW_.html No conex at East though. Damn, that's my b day weekend, I'll be in Nashville. |
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I agree with the above. If we're defining "strong" I'd say you enter (the lower end of) that realm when you're repping your body weight 10x on the compound lifts mentioned. I'd also say 1.5 body weight single rep max on flat bench, 2.0 squat/dead would be "strong," or a 1000 lb big three total would also be seen as "strong" by most. Your numbers don't line up. My bench is almost 1.5xBW, my squat is around 2xBW and my dead is over 2xBW. Enough so that my "gym total" is over 1200. On the lowest lift (bench obviously) I can rep my BW (215) far more than 10x. Closer to 25-30. It is cardio, not strength. |
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Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) Quoted:
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ARFcom describes physical strength as the ability to climb the basement steps every time they run out of Cheetos or Mountain Dew. Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) Uh. I'm 215. And 3/4/5 is universally understood to be entry level in the strength game. |
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Uh. I'm 215. And 3/4/5 is universally understood to be entry level in the strength game. Quoted:
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ARFcom describes physical strength as the ability to climb the basement steps every time they run out of Cheetos or Mountain Dew. Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) Uh. I'm 215. And 3/4/5 is universally understood to be entry level in the strength game. And you're the exception here, and in general. Strength is relative IMO. |
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Damn, that's my b day weekend, I'll be in Nashville. Quoted:
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Cola Warrior times are all that matter. I'd love to come crush the conex, when's the sign ups for the next one? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1898315_CWE4___The_thread_you_ve_been_looking_for__STANDBY_LIST_CLOSED_FOR_NOW_.html No conex at East though. Damn, that's my b day weekend, I'll be in Nashville. nashville sounds dumb, come throw yourself at my obstacles for your birthday |
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most people cant bench their bodyweight and would struggle to squat 135 correctly This right here. We've got a weight room at work and the few guys who lift regularly have brought on board some of the other guys who wanted to get back into it. Two of the guys who recently started lifting are in their late 20's and both about 5'10-11 and 200lbs. Neither of them could bench their body weight even a single time when they started and were at about 115 on squats. And these are pretty average guys who don't look "weak;" truly an "average" American build. We jokingly say you have reached "man status" (up from "little boy status") when you are repping your body weight on bench. |
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And you're the exception here, and in general. Strength is relative IMO. Quoted:
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ARFcom describes physical strength as the ability to climb the basement steps every time they run out of Cheetos or Mountain Dew. Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) Uh. I'm 215. And 3/4/5 is universally understood to be entry level in the strength game. And you're the exception here, and in general. Strength is relative IMO. Sadly he probably is an exception here. Those numbers aren't indicative of some huge roided out gym rat though. That's just a decently fit guy. Agree with the earlier post that it's not impressive in least if you are a big disgusting fatbody. |
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Cola Warrior times are all that matter. I'd love to come crush the conex, when's the sign ups for the next one? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1898315_CWE4___The_thread_you_ve_been_looking_for__STANDBY_LIST_CLOSED_FOR_NOW_.html No conex at East though. Damn, that's my b day weekend, I'll be in Nashville. nashville sounds dumb, come throw yourself at my obstacles for your birthday You don't want these problems
Lol but seriously I've been wanting to come out and have some fun. Airbnb is booked and people have taken off work to come. |
and I don't play any sports
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Your numbers don't line up. My bench is almost 1.5xBW, my squat is around 2xBW and my dead is over 2xBW. Enough so that my "gym total" is over 1200. On the lowest lift (bench obviously) I can rep my BW (215) far more than 10x. Closer to 25-30. It is cardio, not strength. Quoted:
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I agree with the above. If we're defining "strong" I'd say you enter (the lower end of) that realm when you're repping your body weight 10x on the compound lifts mentioned. I'd also say 1.5 body weight single rep max on flat bench, 2.0 squat/dead would be "strong," or a 1000 lb big three total would also be seen as "strong" by most. Your numbers don't line up. My bench is almost 1.5xBW, my squat is around 2xBW and my dead is over 2xBW. Enough so that my "gym total" is over 1200. On the lowest lift (bench obviously) I can rep my BW (215) far more than 10x. Closer to 25-30. It is cardio, not strength. Sure, if were talking a percentage thing the numbers are a rough indicator of "strong," but not everyone is 215lbs. The 1000 lb thing would be a lower level achievement for a bigger guy, but could be a major achievement for a little guy. If you want another metric, the NFL only uses flat bench as their "strength" metric, and they just see how many times those guys can rep 225lbs. This is really a test of "muscular endurance" like you are saying with your cardio statement. Real life "strength" should be both, and you are "strong" if you are competing at or close to the numbers a pro athlete would put up, like in this test. For example, linebackers from 2015 did anywhere from 16-26 reps at 225lbs. To compare myself to your stats, I have a SRM on flat bench of 1.77x BW, and I still do not consider myself strong, so the perception could vary wildly as to what "strong" really means. My thoughts above were really "what does the average person see as strong," not, "what does someone who lifts every day see as strong." |
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Sadly he probably is an exception here. Those numbers aren't indicative of some huge roided out gym rat though. That's just a decently fit guy. Agree with the earlier post that it's not impressive in least if you are a big disgusting fatbody. Quoted:
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ARFcom describes physical strength as the ability to climb the basement steps every time they run out of Cheetos or Mountain Dew. Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) Uh. I'm 215. And 3/4/5 is universally understood to be entry level in the strength game. And you're the exception here, and in general. Strength is relative IMO. Sadly he probably is an exception here. Those numbers aren't indicative of some huge roided out gym rat though. That's just a decently fit guy. Agree with the earlier post that it's not impressive in least if you are a big disgusting fatbody. No, those numbers are not indicative of a "decently fit guy", they are indicative of someone who has spent considerable time and effort working a strength training program. You can be perfectly fit and relatively strong without coming close to those numbers. |
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Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) Quoted:
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ARFcom describes physical strength as the ability to climb the basement steps every time they run out of Cheetos or Mountain Dew. Or if you weigh 300 pounds, then you think that 3/4/5 is entry level. Talk to me at 10% body fat and let's see what those numbers are. (Not to say we don't have some beasts here) 3/4/5 is the beginnings of being really strong and the foundation for pushing into big numbers. Having low body fat doesn't make you weak and having more body fat doesn't make you strong. More fat(to a point) gives one better leverages which can help you get stronger faster if you train hard. It doesn't take the place of training. If a low body fat guy trains hard, eats right, and recovers well he will get bigger and stronger. Most folks will never hit 3/4/5. Not because of injury, ailment, or poor genetics but because of a lack of discipline/drive/necessity. I think for the average gym going adult that just wants to be pretty good at life being able to hit 2/3/4 would be good and add in a sub 8 minute mile. It is probably a more reasonable standard for most people. But when talking of powerlifting and strength, hitting 3/4/5 just means you have the dedication and apptitude to start moving forward. Different worlds. |
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Quoted: This right here. We've got a weight room at work and the few guys who lift regularly have brought on board some of the other guys who wanted to get back into it. Two of the guys who recently started lifting are in their late 20's and both about 5'10-11 and 200lbs. Neither of them could bench their body weight even a single time when they started and were at about 115 on squats. And these are pretty average guys who don't look "weak;" truly an "average" American build. We jokingly say you have reached "man status" (up from "little boy status") when you are repping your body weight on bench. Quoted: Quoted: most people cant bench their bodyweight and would struggle to squat 135 correctly This right here. We've got a weight room at work and the few guys who lift regularly have brought on board some of the other guys who wanted to get back into it. Two of the guys who recently started lifting are in their late 20's and both about 5'10-11 and 200lbs. Neither of them could bench their body weight even a single time when they started and were at about 115 on squats. And these are pretty average guys who don't look "weak;" truly an "average" American build. We jokingly say you have reached "man status" (up from "little boy status") when you are repping your body weight on bench. This is the real normal. Most guys who lift or compete in sports really lose sight of just how weak the 'average' non-lifting non-sports guy really is, and there are millions and millions of them. Conversely those same weak guys really don't understand how weak they really are. Strength and balance gives you options that you wouldn't otherwise have. I really don't care how much strength someone has when they start a program, just the fact that they are starting is more than most people will ever do. |