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AR15.COM
11/4/2013 7:56:10 AM EDT
Not gonna lie I don't necessarily understand all aspects of Obama care. 4,000+ employee company. Company pays for 90% of the insurance premium for both health and dental, while the staff member is responsible for 10%.
11/4/2013 7:59:27 AM EDT
[#1]
Most likely you will be screwed like everybody else
11/4/2013 8:00:32 AM EDT
[#2]
FPNI again.
11/4/2013 8:01:01 AM EDT
[#3]
It'll have a lot less effect if you update your other post.

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11/4/2013 8:01:37 AM EDT
[#4]
Suck it up and deal with the new Social Contract, Comrade.



Your current policy is JUNK.
11/4/2013 8:03:36 AM EDT
[#5]
Your dag will get pregnant.
11/4/2013 8:04:26 AM EDT
[#6]
Quite likely you will lose your employer provided insurance and have to go on the public exchanges. If you are lucky your costs will go up and you can keep your plan.

11/4/2013 8:06:12 AM EDT
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Not gonna lie I don't necessarily understand all aspects of Obama care. 4,000+ employee company. Company pays for 90% of the insurance premium for both health and dental, while the staff member is responsible for 10%.
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Your part of the insurance premium is going to go up.


Now, that is just the tip of the iceberg.  What I think will happen is that business will pass the increased cost on to their customers.  Everything that you purchase, be it goods or services, will go up in price.  So now you are getting hit from both sides.


Vulcan94
11/4/2013 8:07:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Many large company plans will be fine until 2015. My plan at work is completely unchanged.
11/4/2013 8:07:32 AM EDT
[#9]
If you're not getting fucked now you get fucked next year.
11/4/2013 8:08:46 AM EDT
[#10]
Well, if you get sick, you can't get the treatment you would want - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/04/top-hospitals-opt-out-obamacare/
11/4/2013 8:19:48 AM EDT
[#11]
Simple answer to this is:

1)  You will pay more.

2) It will be harder to find a good doctor.

3)  Health care quality will decline.

Government involvement never improves quality or reduces cost.
11/4/2013 8:26:50 AM EDT
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If you're not getting fucked now you get fucked next year.
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This, the government knows if it fucks too many of us at the same time, their dick will fall off.
11/4/2013 8:30:48 AM EDT
[#13]
Obama Himself has told us all we need to know about Obamacare:

1) If you Like your healthcare plan, you can Keep your healthcare plan.
2) If you Like your doctor, you can Keep your doctor.

It's really that simple.  Please do not let reality get in the way of the repeated assurances of our Dear Leader.  

-Mark
11/4/2013 8:36:14 AM EDT
[#14]

We need to level the playing field, so everyone has to do their part.

Because we're all in this together.





The short of it? If you work for a living, health insurance will be less affordable for you so that it can be more affordable
for "those in need".
11/4/2013 8:38:45 AM EDT
[#15]
Benefit open season here at the university.  Virtually no changes in coverage or cost.  The U self insures, Blue Cross just administers it.
11/4/2013 8:40:41 AM EDT
[#16]
Kinda of like this:
11/4/2013 8:40:56 AM EDT
[#17]
Similar situation as you.  We just got our info:

HMO plan cancelled.  Other plan (PPO) remains
Deductible/max out-of-pocket/ etc all doubled
Co-pays increased by $10
% covered by insurance went down 10 points
Premiums up 10%

To sum it up:  some plans cancelled and higher cost for a worse plan = Be proud that you can do your part to so some free-loading piece of shit can have free health insurance.
11/13/2013 2:46:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Update date thread.

11/13/2013 2:49:39 PM EDT
[#19]
My current PPO plan doubled in price.  I can cut back to the cheaper PPO plan, with higher deductibles, for only a 50% increase.

EVERY TIME someone bitches about how much their insurance is going up, remind them that the Democrats are 100% responsible.

Make those motherfuckers OWN the ANGER!



11/13/2013 2:59:09 PM EDT
[#20]
If it's a 4,000-person company, likely, the company self-insures and is exempt, for now, anyway.
11/13/2013 3:03:05 PM EDT
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If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Period.





Oh, and you didn't build that.


11/13/2013 3:12:46 PM EDT
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If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Period.





Oh, and you didn't build that.


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11/13/2013 3:16:51 PM EDT
[#23]
We are f@cked.
11/13/2013 3:18:02 PM EDT
[#24]
Let's see....
Your employer will dump their plan if not this year, in the next 2 or 3 years...throwing you and your family into Obamacare.
Instead of your current coverage that likely allows the freedom to choose a doctor and seek treatment as needed and timely, you will likely enjoy:
- Loss of your choice for a doctor.
- Loss of your options to choose to go to just any hospital you want (that may specialize in what you need) and to be treated by a specialist of your choice.
- Much higher deductibles costing you much more if you have a claim, and, you will likely be paying much higher premiums than you do now.
- You will enjoy the government ultimately determining if your surgery is needed, vs. just you just taking a pain pill.
- You will enjoy, if you are old, and need an expensive procedure to live, there will be a cost-benefit analysis to determine if you will get the care you need (the dreaded death panels await).
- The Democrats under Obama used the IRS to target conservatives for audits, so, what makes you think that your future healthcare could be weighed by your political values? After all, the IRS is going to be the enforcement arm.
- Obamacare will impact the economy, because the cost for insurance and the high deductibles will cause people not to have as much (or any) excess income to buy goods and services at present day levels. Causing stocks and economy to suffer.
- There will be much more...
- Don't worry...the government knows best.  Trust Obama....