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2/13/2010 9:47:25 AM EDT
.............what a whinny ass pair of cry babies. Reminds me to much of Orange Co. Choppers and all the fuss'n and whinning on that show.

They make neat stuff though.........!

That is all.
2/13/2010 9:54:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Been watching it for the last couple of hours. Very cool vehicles.
2/13/2010 9:55:50 AM EDT
[#2]
I agree.  



I'm not sure what the link to dysfunctional families and Discovery channel is, but they seem to think that's the key to successful programming.
2/13/2010 10:00:41 AM EDT
[#3]
I would love to work there, it seems like a kick ass job that I would LOVE to have.  

I love fabricating and welding and shit like that, and on something cool like a ripsaw ... fuck yeah, or a mini rip.... hell yeah.
2/13/2010 10:04:12 AM EDT
[#4]
I can't stand listening to those titty babies. One episode and I was done.
2/13/2010 10:05:40 AM EDT
[#5]
did any one catch the time where the bald dude got pissed off and walked out. One of the howes basicly said if he wasn't a veteran we'd boot him but since he is we keep him around and hope his temper gets better?
2/13/2010 10:28:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I think they probably do that to get viewers. I personally think it's annoying and not interesting to watch.
2/13/2010 10:29:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I can't stand listening to those titty babies. One episode and I was done.


Same.

And the OCC show died when all the fucking whiney ass drama started. I fucking HATE that show now.
2/13/2010 10:29:40 AM EDT
[#8]
They're idiots and they build stupid crap. Other than that it's O.K..

2/13/2010 10:30:41 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
They're idiots and they build stupid crap. Other than that it's O.K..



ha ha ha
2/13/2010 10:38:23 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm not that impressed.
They've taken the engine and drivetrain (hydrostats) off a Grasshopper/Woods ZTR lawn commercial grade mower and adapted it for use on treads.
I owned one, and recognized the engine when they described it as a 23 horse, 3 cylinder engine (Kubota) - then explained how they had issues with one of the hydrostats leaking hydraulic fluid.  It's a common problem with that mower.  I completely understand how they took the controls and adapted them to their project - that mower is basically a tank on wheels, they replaced wheels with tracks.  Genius.
Honestly - that's what they've done.
Behold, the heart of the "Ripsaw" "Badger" - I stand corrected...



 
2/13/2010 10:40:28 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


I'm not that impressed.



They've taken the engine and drivetrain (hydrostats) off a Grasshopper/Woods ZTR lawn commercial grade mower and adapted it for use on treads.



I owned one, and recognized the engine when they described it as a 23 horse, 3 cylinder engine (Kubota) - then explained how they had issues with one of the hydrostats leaking hydraulic fluid.  It's a common problem with that mower.  I completely understand how they took the controls and adapted them to their project - that mower is basically a tank on wheels, they replaced wheels with tracks.  Genius.



Honestly - that's what they've done.



Behold, the heart of the "Ripsaw"...



http://www.showroom411.com/Media/DirectoryEntries/grasshopper%20mower.jpg  


You mean the Badger?



 
2/13/2010 10:42:17 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


I agree.  



I'm not sure what the link to dysfunctional families and Discovery channel is, but they seem to think that's the key to successful programming.


I don't think Bobby Goodson (Swamp Loggers) fits.  And the Howes also appear to be fine.
 
2/13/2010 10:45:47 AM EDT
[#13]
Complete hacks.

I watched a few, and was not impressed. The last one I saw had them rebuilding the useless little Badges thing after they blew it up. There was a dent in the hull, and instead of fixing it, they cut a chunk out of the bellhousing of the engine to clear it....Seriously?
2/13/2010 10:48:34 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I agree.  

I'm not sure what the link to dysfunctional families and Discovery channel is, but they seem to think that's the key to successful programming.

I don't think Bobby Goodson (Swamp Loggers) fits.  And the Howes also appear to be fine.


 


I like Swamp Loggers but gets old pretty quick.
2/13/2010 10:48:59 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:





Quoted:

I'm not that impressed.



They've taken the engine and drivetrain (hydrostats) off a Grasshopper/Woods ZTR lawn commercial grade mower and adapted it for use on treads.



I owned one, and recognized the engine when they described it as a 23 horse, 3 cylinder engine (Kubota) - then explained how they had issues with one of the hydrostats leaking hydraulic fluid.  It's a common problem with that mower.  I completely understand how they took the controls and adapted them to their project - that mower is basically a tank on wheels, they replaced wheels with tracks.  Genius.



Honestly - that's what they've done.



Behold, the heart of the "Ripsaw"...



http://www.showroom411.com/Media/DirectoryEntries/grasshopper%20mower.jpg  


You mean the Badger?

 


Yeah, whatever the first one was called.



I saw my old motor and drivetrain going into the second one they built to destroy.  It actually fared well.





 
2/13/2010 10:50:10 AM EDT
[#16]
At least its not another fucking CSI/ law and order rip off..can't turn the fucking tv on without seeing that shit.

Ripsaw is no joke but I think they need to refine it
2/13/2010 10:53:46 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Complete hacks.

I watched a few, and was not impressed. The last one I saw had them rebuilding the useless little Badges thing after they blew it up. There was a dent in the hull, and instead of fixing it, they cut a chunk out of the bellhousing of the engine to clear it....Seriously?


On a tight timeline to make a simple working prototype, why not?

Granted its not the best way to do it, but if the hull was a single piece of bent steel so there were no seams for protection, then cutting out the damaged area and replacing it with a new piece would effect structural integrity.  But then it comes back to simply making a working prototype.  

It wasnt the actual machine that they were going to purchase.  But I can say this about the bodger, that son of a bitch was NOT smooth in any way.
2/13/2010 10:57:19 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
At least its not another fucking CSI/ law and order rip off..can't turn the fucking tv on without seeing that shit.
Ripsaw is no joke but I think they need to refine it


Can't argue that!

2/13/2010 11:00:48 AM EDT
[#19]
I hate shows with arbitrary deadlines imposed simply to add drama.
2/13/2010 11:02:40 AM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


I hate shows with arbitrary deadlines imposed simply to add drama.


Me too, but that seems to be absolutely key to the Discovery reality show format.  It really irks me though, and is one key reason I don't watch their "reality" shows.  



 
2/13/2010 11:08:16 AM EDT
[#21]





Quoted:
Quoted:


I hate shows with arbitrary deadlines imposed simply to add drama.



Me too, but that seems to be absolutely key to the Discovery reality show format.  It really irks me though, and is one key reason I don't watch their "reality" shows.  


 



New show idea, have Discovery follow me around at work. I'm a construction manager for the Navy (work with civilian construction companies). We blow off deadlines all the time. It would be very anti-dramatic. "Oh, didn't get that done, I'll just write up a no cost time extension"







 
2/13/2010 11:15:08 AM EDT
[#22]
It seems to be one mini crisis after another with them. Everything can bring their company to it's knees. So dramatic. A real nail biter to see if they will stay in business for the next episode. Will they make the dead line. Time will tell. Oh YEAH! We made it just in the nick of time. Gee thanks guy.What an awesome bunch we have working for us. They really came through this time. Between TLC and Discovery this; "will they make it before the dead line is over" is getting old. I would like to see one time one of these shows not make the nail biting dead line and see what will happen. I can see it now. All the workers standing around shaking hands saying good bye to each other. Wishing each other well. Them reminiscing about what could of been. If only we could of made that dam dead line. The newest one is the Trash Men. Oh will we get all the trash picked up in time or will we lose our contract. Only time will tell so stay tuned.

Quoted:
I hate shows with arbitrary deadlines imposed simply to add drama.

That is all I was trying to say in MY post. I got a little long winded.
2/13/2010 11:19:03 AM EDT
[#23]
I watched one show and wanted to punch the lot of them.
2/13/2010 11:19:16 AM EDT
[#24]
I would probably last a day in their shop.  
The first time they got in my face and started yelling.  It would be a solid "fuck you" and I would be out of there.
2/13/2010 11:32:31 AM EDT
[#25]
And people ask me why I don't watch TV....  

2/13/2010 11:38:26 AM EDT
[#26]

I lol when I see howe and howe threads on here.  I know one of them, and have known him for a few years.

What you see on TV is pretty much how he is in real life.  That's why he is no longer employed with us ^_^

2/13/2010 11:44:18 AM EDT
[#27]
If you're going to come here and whine about a TV show, you could at least spell "whiny" and "whining" correctly.
2/13/2010 12:13:45 PM EDT
[#28]
Yep, same as the OCC show.  GRRRR, yell yell, grrrrr, grumble grumble, not going to make deadline, grrrrr, grumble grumble.
2/13/2010 12:25:59 PM EDT
[#29]
It would be a great show if they focused on the fabrication and the products. I do not care to watch grown brothers fight.
2/13/2010 12:32:41 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:


did any one catch the time where the bald dude got pissed off and walked out. One of the howes basicly said if he wasn't a veteran we'd boot him but since he is we keep him around and hope his temper gets better?


Yep, saw that one.



 
2/13/2010 12:33:33 PM EDT
[#31]
They build neat equipment, but I can't stand the drama.
2/13/2010 12:35:47 PM EDT
[#32]



Quoted:


It seems to be one mini crisis after another with them. Everything can bring their company to it's knees. So dramatic. A real nail biter to see if they will stay in business for the next episode. Will they make the dead line. Time will tell. Oh YEAH! We made it just in the nick of time. Gee thanks guy.What an awesome bunch we have working for us. They really came through this time. Between TLC and Discovery this; "will they make it before the dead line is over" is getting old. I would like to see one time one of these shows not make the nail biting dead line and see what will happen. I can see it now. All the workers standing around shaking hands saying good bye to each other. Wishing each other well. Them reminiscing about what could of been. If only we could of made that dam dead line. The newest one is the Trash Men. Oh will we get all the trash picked up in time or will we lose our contract. Only time will tell so stay tuned.





Your post made me LOL.




 
2/13/2010 12:39:08 PM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:


They build neat equipment, but I can't stand the drama.


This times one thousand.



I watched half an episode once and won't tune in again.



 
2/13/2010 1:26:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
If you're going to come here and whine about a TV show, you could at least spell "whiny" and "whining" correctly.


I sarry, want hapen agaen!

2/13/2010 2:10:22 PM EDT
[#35]
The one thing that gets me all bent out of shape when not a one of them knows how to control weld distortion.  Any monkey with a wire feed can weld.  Only a trained welder knows how to control distortion.




2/13/2010 2:22:37 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:

Quoted:
And the Howes also appear to be fine.


 


One of their wives is a fucking bitch, though.
2/13/2010 10:00:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Howe in the fuck is this shit still on tv
2/14/2010 3:22:47 AM EDT
[#38]



Quoted:


I hate shows with arbitrary deadlines imposed simply to add drama.


Sad part is that it is rapidly becoming the norm in the real world.



Not to add drama, just because.



My previous employer was notorious for it, much halfassedness ensued.



 
2/14/2010 3:34:22 AM EDT
[#39]
I used to work for a contractor that was a twin. We got a job remodeling the other twin's business. They argued just like that.



Its something about twins.
2/14/2010 8:52:41 AM EDT
[#40]
I don't know who would want to purchase their machines after seeing the ( lack of) QC and general shade tree-ness of the operation.

 They took a tender to build vehicles,for which they weren't sure of how much materials it would take,didn't look to be building the tubing on any sort of a jog,clearly showed how poorly it was built and then wanted to ship it out knowing it was over the spec. height.Above and beyond that,they behave like idiots.

 One of my neighbors designs war robots at Natick and has a company that builds world class downhill mountain bikes,I have seen the very cool things that a small shop can build so I'm not too impressed.Those guys aren't doing anything any number of Hollywood prop shops couldn't throw together and I don't have a clue as to who the hell would spend good taxpayer $ on a "Badger" when they could get a free M113.
2/14/2010 9:40:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Of all the great little fab shops out there, how did these two whining pussies get a show on The Discovery Channel, much less .gov contracts?

Do these two cry babies have some hookup that we don't know about?
2/14/2010 10:09:34 AM EDT
[#42]
Looks more like the toys a hobbyist builds utilizing components they just happen to have lying around. There appears to be little to no actual engineering, they're just making the shit up as they go along.

It's amusing how cobbling together a snowmobile to float with absolutely no thought is represented as a "program".

I wonder how much of a bump it would take to tip over that top-heavy, skinny little entry deathtrap. Doesn't appear to be an escape hatch on top, or any isolation inside to protect the operator from fuel /oil fires, exhaust fumes, engine heat, etc.

2/14/2010 10:12:30 AM EDT
[#43]
Not a fan of the show.  Howe and Howe sucks ass.
2/14/2010 10:19:32 AM EDT
[#44]
Seen one the other night and a puddle of water downed the ripsaw(?).  I guess they left a lid off. What i don't get is the government is interested. Seems they could do alot better job hacking together old parts from old demilled stuff even.
2/14/2010 2:40:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Of all the great little fab shops out there, how did these two whining pussies get a show on Hist channel, much less .gov contracts?

Do these two cry babies have some hookup that we don't know about?


Discovery, not History.
2/14/2010 2:58:53 PM EDT
[#46]



Quoted:


Seen one the other night and a puddle of water downed the ripsaw(?).  I guess they left a lid off. What i don't get is the government is interested. Seems they could do alot better job hacking together old parts from old demilled stuff even.


How interested is the government in this stuff? Is the US military actually pursuing this stuff, or are they just floating a few R&D dollars their way?



 
2/14/2010 3:25:22 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I agree.  

I'm not sure what the link to dysfunctional families and Discovery channel is, but they seem to think that's the key to successful programming.

I don't think Bobby Goodson (Swamp Loggers) fits.  And the Howes also appear to be fine.


 


Bobby Goodson and his crew make up the the only "nice" guys on any of those shows.