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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:22:21 PM EDT
I was waiting for a GD thread to hopefully explain this for me, starting reading about it last night -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269073/Pro-poker-player-accused-using-hidden-vibrating-device-help-win-130-000.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269983/Poker-fans-point-suspicious-footage-alleged-cheating-scandal.html  Anyone have any insight? From an amateur's viewpoint, this Garrett guy was being a dick and couldn't believe he could be beaten by her.. she could have just gotten lucky, but that second story with the ring disappearing is awfully suspicious.. Plus the whole refunding the money he lost, though she says she was "cornered in a dark hallway" so I dunno.. Is this ARFCOM-safe? 
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:31:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: I was waiting for a GD thread to hopefully explain this for me, starting reading about it last night - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269073/Pro-poker-player-accused-using-hidden-vibrating-device-help-win-130-000.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269983/Poker-fans-point-suspicious-footage-alleged-cheating-scandal.html https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/01/06/62993429-11269073-image-a-29_1664600724659.jpg Anyone have any insight? From an amateur's viewpoint, this Garrett guy was being a dick and couldn't believe he could be beaten by her.. she could have just gotten lucky, but that second story with the ring disappearing is awfully suspicious.. Plus the whole refunding the money he lost, though she says she was "cornered in a dark hallway" so I dunno.. Is this ARFCOM-safe? https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/01/06/62993451-11269073-image-a-5_1664603943285.jpg nice tits |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:32:04 PM EDT
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No idea what’s going on, just enjoying a Nikon clad lass before the Arfcom prudence enforcement team arrives
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:33:09 PM EDT
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I didn't even know you could replay the river card, but going all in with Jack high is nuts.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:36:49 PM EDT
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I'll say this much, it is far classier cheating with a ring than using anal beads.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:39:11 PM EDT
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Im pretty sure that casinos use electronic monitoring equipment to check for things like that.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:43:10 PM EDT
[#6]
That's the kind of call you get from an absolute poker moron if you were playing a 2$ game. No chance in hell a "professional" would make a call on that all-in with a Jack regardless of if you knew the guy was bluffing.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:45:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: Is this ARFCOM-safe? No. Pics like that are supposed to go in the BOTD forum. https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html #9 Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts; this includes photos of scantily clad men or women . Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in the BOTD forum, and under the rules posted in that forum. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:47:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: Is this ARFCOM-safe? ] Noooope |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 7:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Pics like that are supposed to go in the BOTD forum. https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html #9 Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts; this includes photos of scantily clad men or women . Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in the BOTD forum, and under the rules posted in that forum. Thank you for your service  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:01:37 PM EDT
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Girl: "If my Jack wasn't a club, I would've been out"
Guy (immediately calls her out on that statement): "What do you mean if your Jack wasn't a club you would've been out?" She was counting on getting clubs on the turn and the river? That's a very low probability. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:06:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Him going all-in based on the potential of his hand isn't questionable?
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Him going all-in based on the potential of his hand isn't questionable? With an open-ended straight flush draw? Lol. No. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:11:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:13:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Him going all-in based on the potential of his hand isn't questionable? Her call seems ill advised, but I don't understand what's so great about his play. 78 suited with two over cards on the board --- going all in on a draw. The odds were 50/50 for both and she won. The only reason this is news is the vibe accusation, which also only is news because of the chess player accusing some other guy of shoving a vibrator in his ass. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:14:11 PM EDT
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They both made stupid plays that they justify by claiming to have read each other. She ends up winning, so he accuses her of cheating and supposedly intimidates her into giving his money back. If she was cheating, why would she go in when the outcome was 50/50? Garrett's a sore loser.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Pics like that are supposed to go in the BOTD forum. https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html #9 Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts; this includes photos of scantily clad men or women . Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in the BOTD forum, and under the rules posted in that forum. 
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Pics like that are supposed to go in the BOTD forum. https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html #9 Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts; this includes photos of scantily clad men or women . Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in the BOTD forum, and under the rules posted in that forum. 
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:18:54 PM EDT
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Seems like her costume would give opponents an advantage.
I guarantee I could stare at the milkers so hard she'd never be able to guess a thing about my cards from looking at my face. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:21:33 PM EDT
[#19]
This is why the term butter face was coined.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:23:09 PM EDT
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IBTL
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the kind of call you get from an absolute poker moron if you were playing a 2$ game. No chance in hell a "professional" would make a call on that all-in with a Jack regardless of if you knew the guy was bluffing. Correct. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:27:05 PM EDT
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Aren’t they business partners? Fake news for the views.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:29:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Girl: "If my Jack wasn't a club, I would've been out" Guy (immediately calls her out on that statement): "What do you mean if your Jack wasn't a club you would've been out?" She was counting on getting clubs on the turn and the river? That's a very low probability. One less club for the opponent, if he was going for a flush draw. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:30:50 PM EDT
[#24]
If luck wasn't involved I would win every time.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:40:57 PM EDT
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The cheating accusations are ridiculous. If you’re cheating and you know what your opponent is holding you don’t call an all-in on the turn on a coin flip.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Pics like that are supposed to go in the BOTD forum. https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html #9 Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts; this includes photos of scantily clad men or women . Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in the BOTD forum, and under the rules posted in that forum. My how far we've fallen. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:47:06 PM EDT
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People that are questioning his play and calling it as bad as hers don’t have the slightest understanding of poker.
His play was dang near textbook. He didn’t put her on trips or a high pocket pair. Everything looked completely normal until she called. Looks like cheating to me. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:47:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the kind of call you get from an absolute poker moron if you were playing a 2$ game. No chance in hell a "professional" would make a call on that all-in with a Jack regardless of if you knew the guy was bluffing. Having watched a fair bit of the games streamed by Hustler Live, they are full of bad players with far more money than sense. Calls that wouldn’t really be surprising, but obviously bad, at a $1-$2 cash game are routine. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People that are questioning his play and calling it as bad as hers don’t have the slightest understanding of poker. His play was dang near textbook. He didn’t put her on trips or a high pocket pair. Everything looked completely normal until she called. Looks like cheating to me. Thanks, that's why I posted - I've only watched a few World Series of Poker videos so didn't know what was going on... also hadn't heard of the "Running the River twice" bit. Only poker I've played is with friends with $5 buy-ins.. casino near me has poker events every day but I don't have the time to learn the ins and outs. I lose enough at the machines. 
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:52:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Her call seems ill advised, but I don't understand what's so great about his play. 78 suited with two over cards on the board --- going all in on a draw. The odds were 50/50 for both and she won. The only reason this is news is the vibe accusation, which also only is news because of the chess player accusing some other guy of shoving a vibrator in his ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Him going all-in based on the potential of his hand isn't questionable? Her call seems ill advised, but I don't understand what's so great about his play. 78 suited with two over cards on the board --- going all in on a draw. The odds were 50/50 for both and she won. The only reason this is news is the vibe accusation, which also only is news because of the chess player accusing some other guy of shoving a vibrator in his ass. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, that's why I posted - I've only watched a few World Series of Poker videos so didn't know what was going on... also hadn't heard of the "Running the River twice" bit. Only poker I've played is with friends with $5 buy-ins.. casino near me has poker events every day but I don't have the time to learn the ins and outs. I lose enough at the machines. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People that are questioning his play and calling it as bad as hers don’t have the slightest understanding of poker. His play was dang near textbook. He didn’t put her on trips or a high pocket pair. Everything looked completely normal until she called. Looks like cheating to me. Thanks, that's why I posted - I've only watched a few World Series of Poker videos so didn't know what was going on... also hadn't heard of the "Running the River twice" bit. Only poker I've played is with friends with $5 buy-ins.. casino near me has poker events every day but I don't have the time to learn the ins and outs. I lose enough at the machines. What is ridiculous is his complaining about her play & accusing her of cheating. He’s routinely the best player in these games and has won a huge amount of money from them. He should welcome opponents like the lady here who make poor decisions and more often than not loose money to him. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:59:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cheating accusations are ridiculous. If you’re cheating and you know what your opponent is holding you don’t call an all-in on the turn on a coin flip. You call or raise if you just don't care. Like sponsored insta-thots don't care about money. In light of the accusations from the chess match, I'm not putting it past an attention whore to do it so she can gain some fame as the new fresh face in the professional poker world. Once some people get a taste of fame, they can't get enough. It's worse than heroin. They just can't satisfy that need and will do whatever it takes to get that high again. I personally don't care if anything happened. I see two attention whores vying for more attention than the other. If I ran the game, they'd both be gone. Permanently. **Spelling error |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:01:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: I was waiting for a GD thread to hopefully explain this for me, starting reading about it last night - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269073/Pro-poker-player-accused-using-hidden-vibrating-device-help-win-130-000.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11269983/Poker-fans-point-suspicious-footage-alleged-cheating-scandal.html https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/01/06/62993429-11269073-image-a-29_1664600724659.jpg Anyone have any insight? From an amateur's viewpoint, this Garrett guy was being a dick and couldn't believe he could be beaten by her.. she could have just gotten lucky, but that second story with the ring disappearing is awfully suspicious.. Plus the whole refunding the money he lost, though she says she was "cornered in a dark hallway" so I dunno.. Is this ARFCOM-safe? https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/01/06/62993451-11269073-image-a-5_1664603943285.jpg His name was MikeyCNY |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:05:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People that are questioning his play and calling it as bad as hers don’t have the slightest understanding of poker. His play was dang near textbook. He didn’t put her on trips or a high pocket pair. Everything looked completely normal until she called. Looks like cheating to me. I agree. What I don't understand though is why she didn't say "jacks" and turn her hand over, then say "oh, shit I misread my hand". If she was cheating you would think she would have a couple answers ready if hands went to showdown and she had complete dog shit. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:08:26 PM EDT
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Andy Stacks was sitting next to her. After the hand while Robbi was explaining, Andy made eye contact with Garret and smirked. He knew something smelled fishy.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:33:21 PM EDT
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That was fishy as fuck. Who calls with jack-shit? He had every reason to play his hand. She had no reason to think she'd win unless someone that knew his hand told her.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:12:03 PM EDT
[#37]
He mad he lost to da titties !!
seriously, that dude is a giant douche, who lost on a bad beat. The odds were in his favor, until they weren't. that's why its called gambling. no way she knew what that last card was gonna be. she got lucky. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:15:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Been following this the last couple days. She is either really fucking dumb or she has a wireless vibrator that someone is using to let her know when she is good.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:22:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Been following this the last couple days. She is either really fucking dumb or she has a wireless vibrator that someone is using to let her know when she is good. Aren't the streams delayed to prevent this type of thing? I know there was talk of exploiting the card reader built into the table but I would think they would harden that as much as they could.. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:25:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Why did I read that name as “Rabbi Lewd Jew”?
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Posted: 10/1/2022 10:35:06 PM EDT
[#41]
Dude goes all in with Jack shit, and gets called by some one with jackshit. Trying hard to see the controversy.
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Posted: 10/2/2022 6:42:27 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude goes all in with Jack shit, and gets called by some one with jackshit. Trying hard to see the controversy. Without seeing the cards like the veiwer can, in her head she should know that there's 30+ card combinations that can beat her jack high and she still puts all her chips in with a call. He has great reason to bluff. In his head a massive bet wins him the pot and he still has good outs even if she has a decent hand. There's 12 single cards in the deck that beat her hand, not including pocket pairs or board pairs. Calling a massive bet like that knowing pretty much everything in the deck beats you is incredibly stupid. This is the kind of play that infuriates poker players, even if she's not cheating. It could very well be that she's an actual completely bad poler player who ended up in a pro game and she didn't cheat. |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 6:48:53 AM EDT
[#43]
I'm not a poker player. Can someone explain, like in "to a five year old" terms, how what she allegedly did is cheating?
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Posted: 10/2/2022 6:53:04 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not a poker player. Can someone explain, like in "to a five year old" terms, how what she allegedly did is cheating? People are saying her ring vibrates when she is ahead in a big pot. There's a video out there of he chair obviously vibrating also. So, even though she has nothing, she is actually winning so the vibration tells her to call a massive pot. This would somehow involve coordination from the film crew. The live streams are on delay so only film crew can see the cards in real time. |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 7:03:19 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People are saying her ring vibrates when she is ahead in a big pot. There's a video out there of he chair obviously vibrating also. So, even though she has nothing, she is actually winning so the vibration tells her to call a massive pot. This would somehow involve coordination from the film crew. The live streams are on delay so only film crew can see the cards in real time. |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 7:06:13 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Noooope Good thing I got in before it gets banished. ETA: I've been watching WPT online for the last couple of months and am surprised by the bullshit hands that get played and called. That suited connectors and J-4 doesn't surprise me anymore |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 7:14:45 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People are saying her ring vibrates when she is ahead in a big pot. There's a video out there of he chair obviously vibrating also. So, even though she has nothing, she is actually winning so the vibration tells her to call a massive pot. This would somehow involve coordination from the film crew. The live streams are on delay so only film crew can see the cards in real time. Actually just one person in the film crew . It's possible People involved in state lottery commissions have been caught rigging a game that paid off in millions so this isn't far fetched at all . |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 7:17:20 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He mad he lost to da titties !! seriously, that dude is a giant douche, who lost on a bad beat. The odds were in his favor, until they weren't. that's why its called gambling. no way she knew what that last card was gonna be. she got lucky. Again, you don’t understand poker if this is your explanation of what happened. |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 7:18:47 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. What I don't understand though is why she didn't say "jacks" and turn her hand over, then say "oh, shit I misread my hand". If she was cheating you would think she would have a couple answers ready if hands went to showdown and she had complete dog shit. Good point. It would have thrown off suspicion, unless they were already on to her. |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 8:53:45 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The cheating accusations are ridiculous. If you’re cheating and you know what your opponent is holding you don’t call an all-in on the turn on a coin flip. Then why did she give him the money back? |
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