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Posted: 4/22/2019 2:01:41 PM EDT
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The point was that we aren't anywhere close to that yet. We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 2:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15596/say_when_jpg-920529.JPG I figure I can take at least 3-4 with me. Of course, I'm 60 years old now & not as good a shooter as I once was. But that's 3-4 who won't be going to the next guy.  
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Posted: 4/22/2019 3:12:16 PM EDT
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We all have the illusion of freedom , but that's all it is. What disturbs me the most, is how westerners have just sort of accepted it. The story about the kid in New Zealand that was arrested for downloading the shooter's manifesto, and various people in the UK being arrested for speech violations, those really bother me. I guess when it comes to free speech I'm somewhat of a radical. I don't even believe in the censorship of ugly or mean words, or distasteful, or racist ideas. Words and ideas shouldn't be restricted. Also the New Zealand's government refusing to release the name of the shooter bothered me. On this forum many supported that. I don't EVER think the government should be able to "disappear" someone. I don't care what they are accused of, or did. That's getting damn near black bagging people. I also don't like secret courts, and "special prisons". People accept them because they believe they'll only be used for bad people, and terrorists. Once people get use to governments black bagging bad people, holding them in special prisons, trying them in secret courts, it's just a small step away form very bad things happening. One day someone you know is black bagged, and everyone just assumes he must have done something "bad", and accepts it. People in government shouldn't be trusted with that kind of power. If people become comfortable with it. It can turn very quickly into the something ugly used against good people. If you see your neighbor arrested, you already assume he must deserve it. That he must have done something wrong. Now imagine you hear about a neighbor disappearing, and everyone just assuming the government must have had a good reason for doing it. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 3:49:07 PM EDT
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This is a little animation that drives home this point.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfsQuote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfsTo be accurate, it would also have to show that the little dot has control over another little dot, that blasts the party line to the big mass of dots, 24/7/365 a year. That would be the media. It would also need another dot, that represents an education system that brainwashes the large mass's children with the ideals and beliefs of the little dot. Then, you'd have to show the effects of all of that on the mass, which would be to split it in half, moving half that mass to the side of the little dot. Now, you don't have a huge mass of dots against a little dot and an enforcer dot. You have two equally sized masses of dots on each side, but one side having the ability to fine, arrest, and jail the other mass. At that point, the only way to break free from the evil little dot and its equally large mass, is to be willing to fight and die to change things. The thought of that, is too horrific for the anti establishment, freedom loving mass to undertake. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 4:40:57 PM EDT
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Cute cartoon, but its a simpleton's illustration and not at all accurate. To be accurate, it would also have to show that the little dot has control over another little dot, that blasts the party line to the big mass of dots, 24/7/365 a year. That would be the media. It would also need another dot, that represents an education system that brainwashes the large mass's children with the ideals and beliefs of the little dot. Then, you'd have to show the effects of all of that on the mass, which would be to split it in half, moving half that mass to the side of the little dot. Now, you don't have a huge mass of dots against a little dot and an enforcer dot. You have two equally sized masses of dots on each side, but one side having the ability to fine, arrest, and jail the other mass. At that point, the only way to break free from the evil little dot and its equally large mass, is to be willing to fight and die to change things. The thought of that, is too horrific for the anti establishment, freedom loving mass to undertake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfsTo be accurate, it would also have to show that the little dot has control over another little dot, that blasts the party line to the big mass of dots, 24/7/365 a year. That would be the media. It would also need another dot, that represents an education system that brainwashes the large mass's children with the ideals and beliefs of the little dot. Then, you'd have to show the effects of all of that on the mass, which would be to split it in half, moving half that mass to the side of the little dot. Now, you don't have a huge mass of dots against a little dot and an enforcer dot. You have two equally sized masses of dots on each side, but one side having the ability to fine, arrest, and jail the other mass. At that point, the only way to break free from the evil little dot and its equally large mass, is to be willing to fight and die to change things. The thought of that, is too horrific for the anti establishment, freedom loving mass to undertake. I was just agreeing with @TheNorth statement, I thought the video kind of illustrated his point. IF everyone that supports the Bill of Rights, including of course the 2nd Amendment were properly motivated to physically demand their rights be affirmed, they greatly outnumber those in power. Not that it would ever happen, but it sure would be an impressive sight to see. I'd much rather that happen than armed conflict. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 6:07:25 PM EDT
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They march enmasse in Europe all the time, and burn shit, it hasn’t slowed the roll out one fucking bit. The fact is that without teeth, you’re just a yapping dog. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. What happens if 100,000,000 gun owners stop working, stop paying their taxes, and sit in the streets of WA DC with their signs? It would crash our economy beyond belief. That is what would institute change, not the actual protests or sitting in the street. It's all about the money. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 6:08:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He definitely adopted the starvation thingy with the Hunger Plan. Killed 2.5 million Soviet troops that way. The Gulags would have made a good example for the concentration camps. Some say the American Indian reservations were the models for the concentration camps. Others the Boer camps in SA. The Brits used starvation too near the turn of the century. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 6:11:25 PM EDT
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Of course you're correct. I was just agreeing with @TheNorth statement, I thought the video kind of illustrated his point. IF everyone that supports the Bill of Rights, including of course the 2nd Amendment were properly motivated to physically demand their rights be affirmed, they greatly outnumber those in power. Not that it would ever happen, but it sure would be an impressive sight to see. I'd much rather that happen than armed conflict. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfsTo be accurate, it would also have to show that the little dot has control over another little dot, that blasts the party line to the big mass of dots, 24/7/365 a year. That would be the media. It would also need another dot, that represents an education system that brainwashes the large mass's children with the ideals and beliefs of the little dot. Then, you'd have to show the effects of all of that on the mass, which would be to split it in half, moving half that mass to the side of the little dot. Now, you don't have a huge mass of dots against a little dot and an enforcer dot. You have two equally sized masses of dots on each side, but one side having the ability to fine, arrest, and jail the other mass. At that point, the only way to break free from the evil little dot and its equally large mass, is to be willing to fight and die to change things. The thought of that, is too horrific for the anti establishment, freedom loving mass to undertake. I was just agreeing with @TheNorth statement, I thought the video kind of illustrated his point. IF everyone that supports the Bill of Rights, including of course the 2nd Amendment were properly motivated to physically demand their rights be affirmed, they greatly outnumber those in power. Not that it would ever happen, but it sure would be an impressive sight to see. I'd much rather that happen than armed conflict. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 6:12:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The reason Ghandi was successful is because everyone sat down, and would not work. What happens if 100,000,000 gun owners stop working, stop paying their taxes, and sit in the streets of WA DC with their signs? It would crash our economy beyond belief. That is what would institute change, not the actual protests or sitting in the street. It's all about the money. Money does have control over all of this, and I agree with you in that context. The banks are to big to fail, auto manufactures are to big to fail, etc...etc...... |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 9:42:23 PM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:33:20 AM EDT
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I saw this at a Holocaust museum in Portland.
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:46:30 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? Does it have to be just Jews? Either way, that’s a pretty fucked up comparison. People are just amazingly complacent. The ironic thing is that every single person on this site is already pre-identified as Juden. Unless you plan to be a turn coat like Soros, you need to get used to the idea of being Deplorable. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:58:16 AM EDT
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Absolutely. Most people living in this country are soft, and when they finally encounter real hardship, they will support tyrants.. We are an interest rate hike away from civil upheaval and economic pain... and if we don't raise interest rates? Rampant inflation and economic pain. So many people are calling for authoritarian socialist leaders during the "good times." Imagine how desperately people will be seeking a govt savior when everything goes to shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: And do you honestly see that happening here in 3 years time? Do you think Gen Z as they come of age is going to support anything like that? We are an interest rate hike away from civil upheaval and economic pain... and if we don't raise interest rates? Rampant inflation and economic pain. So many people are calling for authoritarian socialist leaders during the "good times." Imagine how desperately people will be seeking a govt savior when everything goes to shit. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:39:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt's always gradual. Sometimes they heat the pot slowly, sometimes it's so gradual so it's not even be noticed by the frog, other times its a little faster so the frog notices but convinces himself he can adjust to it. Sort of like what's happened with our Bill of Rights. We know they've all been watered down, and that legislative and judicial end-arounds have been installed and implemented, but we tell ourselves we can adjust to it. .....because it's democracy, and lawful. Nothing "lawful" can be evil, can it? 
"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."-Thomas Paine It's funny how the language changes in people's minds. Theft, Kidnapping, hostage taking, killing, all become different when different language is used. You'll hear people in government use the term "lawful order" often. It's a kind of catch all whitewash. We broke into his house and took him away, become we served a "lawful" warrant. ...we had a "lawful order" to take his firearms. The only good government is one which is kept small, and limited in function. Unfortunately we're well beyond that now. Leftist authoritarians, and rightist nationalist all seem to want grand governments. Governments large enough, with the power to do "grand things". That's dangerous. It's playing with fire. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:45:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: sheese.... anyone that has read 20 or 30 books about europe, lets say from the beginning of queen victoria's reign until the end of wwII that whatever was going on in europe is nothing like what is going in this country. after all, it was 90 percent german, 100 percent german nationalism and 10 percent fear of communists/anarchist in post wwI germany and the worldwide depression. the first and 2nd world wars were wars started by german nationalism more than anything else. thats why they put stars on jews, to differentiate the master german ayran race from the untermencshen marked for eventual extremination. im curious what similar motivation folks see today for whatever is going on. do some of you folks really believe that a significant number of people in this country want to see a significant number of what they perceive as the enemy, rounded up, men, women and children and sent to extermination camps to be gassed and have their bodies burned? when obama got elected, he was gonna declare martial law, suspend the constitution and with the help of la-raza and the new black panthers, round up republicans, especially white christian southerners, put them in boxcars and shackles and guillotines and ship them to fema extermination camps. folks would point out the work being done to build the boxcars, fema ordering millions of body bags and coffins and so forth. the tin foil derp then was deep and it still is today. i've been hearing versions of this stuff since the 70s. its a re-occurring dark fantasy that seems to come and go in parts of the gun culture. it was tinfoil derp then and it remains so today. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:53:34 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? IT IS POINTLESS TO MAKE STRAIT WHITE MEN WEAR IDENTIFICATION everyone else screams out who they are in flaming babbling rainbow frenzies of faggotry. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:53:46 AM EDT
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And that's not real. where's the "Book Burning". There's no book burning. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:56:39 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? MAGA hat wearers attacked We’re close |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:57:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The point was that we aren't anywhere close to that yet. We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:01:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What evidence do you have to the contrary? We don't have a dictator in office, or any SS taking orders from the non-existent dictator. Nor do we have any genocide currently occurring. Not that I'm a fan of the red flag laws becoming popular right now, but it's still quite a big jump from that to the the third reich. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:04:17 AM EDT
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This will carry a longer prison sentence than murder...……..
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:05:35 AM EDT
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And do you honestly see that happening here in 3 years time? Do you think Gen Z as they come of age is going to support anything like that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? Do you think Gen Z as they come of age is going to support anything like that? Couple that with shifting the responsibilities of failure to other people and things can change really fast. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:13:46 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15596/say_when_jpg-920529.JPG I figure I can take at least 3-4 with me. Of course, I'm 60 years old now & not as good a shooter as I once was. But that's 3-4 who won't be going to the next guy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15596/say_when_jpg-920529.JPG I figure I can take at least 3-4 with me. Of course, I'm 60 years old now & not as good a shooter as I once was. But that's 3-4 who won't be going to the next guy. How long would the Nazis have kept it up... if every Jew they came after had met them with a gun in his hand? But I learned from them, General Black. Oh, I learned. Walter Matthau as Professor Groetschele, Fail Safe |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:28:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Free speech is being censored, and there are efforts to silence dissenting viewpoints. The left have seized the media and with it the hearts and minds of many. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:35:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:type the n word in this thread and see what happens. can't trust anyone. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:51:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the left doesn't want the free exchange of ideas. They can't win enough thinking people over if they're able to hear both sides of an argument fairly. The left will always appeal to their special victim identity groups but without swaying those in the middle to their side with their ever so cleverly crafted propaganda they're not going to win anything. The left have seized the media and with it the hearts and minds of many.  Failed To Load Title We've been warned many times.  Eisenhower Farewell Address (Best Quality) - 'Military Industrial Complex' WARNING It's not just the leftist we should watch. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:08:25 PM EDT
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The communists are in charge but in the end will be subservient to their Luciferian overlords. However, there is a systematic government takeover by communists in Europe and the US which is a slow and steady assimilation to communist values with the ultimate goal to take power from the people and put it into the hands of communists just like the old Soviet Union. To that end, they support the use of the terms racist against the US so they can unite the minorities to their cause to destroy the US and rebuild it into a communist state. It s but one of many methods that they are slowly destroying the US. This also explains why they are so adamantly opposed to the 2nd Amendment (people's last means of defending the constitution from domestic takeover/attack/coup) and the 5th Amendment (the democrat senators made it abundantly clear that they do not support the concept of innocent until proven guilty during the Judge Kavanaugh confirmation hearings), but they do support the 1st Amendment, only because they and their supporters control the vast majority of the national news media. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:16:24 PM EDT
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Red flag laws mean it’s already a thing here. Judges don’t give a shit about you or your perceived liberty, even the Supreme Court couldn’t care less about hearing second amendment cases, and will reaffirm any decision made by their swamp masters.
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the correct response. Comparing things to the Third Reich the way they are now is stupid. If things today are comparable to Nazi Germany, then all of the atrocities of Nazi Germany must have been lies and exaggerations. Unless, they can point out a single Death Camp with poison gas showers and incinerators to burn murdered prisoners in Europe or the US, or government mandated euthanasia for retarded children and children with Down's Syndrome. These iceholes flippantly make their ridiculous comparisons of mass murder/genocide to situations that are civil rights violations that are nowhere comparable. The same types of watering down issues like racism that used to exist on a governmental scale during the first 150 years of the existence of the US. The very idea of using the description of racism to describe the US in today's day and age is ludicrous. However, there is a systematic government takeover by communists in Europe and the US which is a slow and steady assimilation to communist values with the ultimate goal to take power from the people and put it into the hands of communists just like the old Soviet Union. To that end, they support the use of the terms racist against the US so they can unite the minorities to their cause to destroy the US and rebuild it into a communist state. It s but one of many methods that they are slowly destroying the US. This also explains why they are so adamantly opposed to the 2nd Amendment (people's last means of defending the constitution from domestic takeover/attack/coup) and the 5th Amendment (the democrat senators made it abundantly clear that they do not support the concept of innocent until proven guilty during the Judge Kavanaugh confirmation hearings), but they do support the 1st Amendment, only because they and their supporters control the vast majority of the national news media. The world was told about this, but from the USA standpoint trade with USSR was more important for dealing with our financial depression. Also international support for communism. 2nd amendment quote would be from Lenin, which was before all of this "one man with a gun can control 100 without one" |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:44:08 PM EDT
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The reason Ghandi was successful is because everyone sat down, and would not work. What happens if 100,000,000 gun owners stop working, stop paying their taxes, and sit in the streets of WA DC with their signs? It would crash our economy beyond belief. That is what would institute change, not the actual protests or sitting in the street. It's all about the money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. What happens if 100,000,000 gun owners stop working, stop paying their taxes, and sit in the streets of WA DC with their signs? It would crash our economy beyond belief. That is what would institute change, not the actual protests or sitting in the street. It's all about the money. Now days, the Gandhi figure would be identified and discredited, jailed or killed. Early in the process. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 7:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good point. We should do it, but we have no leadership and no solidarity. Now days, the Gandhi figure would be identified and discredited, jailed or killed. Early in the process. Trying to protect our rights to toys is stupid. Our guns are simply the last resort to defend the rest. The dreadful TOOL to use to make sure .gov doesn't get too "lawful" in destroying individual rights. The last shield against mob democracy and tyrannical corruption. I'm kind of fond of free speech, security of person, papers and property. I kind of want public trials, with juries, and the assumption of innocent unless proven guilty. I grow weary of laws by hired bureaucrats rubber stamped often without thought or understanding by elected representatives. I'm sick and tired of corporate oligarchy, and government directed by the coin of special interest. I actually want an up and down vote on all regulations that carry the coercion of law. I want sunset provisions, so that stupid laws don't continue into perpetuity, only to become part of the genealogy of some future tyranny. I am sick of the type of people who are electable. They're often borderline narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths. I don't want these people making careers and family fortunes through government. Our Republic is sick. I don't want it to be a terminal illness. I don't want to become violent. @Miami_JBT |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 2:53:35 PM EDT
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 Trump and Tommy Robinson |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 4:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe UK is fighting the same fight we are. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 5:37:07 PM EDT
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I've been saying for a while that IF there's going to be a civil conflict, it's going to be global in scale. The UK is fighting the same fight we are. That value safety and security over the danger of individual freedom. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 5:59:02 PM EDT
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"Take the guns first." -Trump.
We are living in very, very perilous times. The most important thing you can do? Read and understand the Constitution. Elect leaders who will uphold their Constitutional oath. Have a years supply of food. Be out of debt. Own guns. Open-borders, anti-gun, anti-conservative Democrat Jared Kushner, the Washington Puppet master-- will do a lot more damage to our Nation before it gets better. And it gets worse before it gets bad. But good wins in the end. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:07:14 PM EDT
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Because the left doesn't want the free exchange of ideas. They can't win enough thinking people over if they're able to hear both sides of an argument fairly. The left will always appeal to their special victim identity groups but without swaying those in the middle to their side with their ever so cleverly crafted propaganda they're not going to win anything. The left have seized the media and with it the hearts and minds of many. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Free speech is being censored, and there are efforts to silence dissenting viewpoints. The left have seized the media and with it the hearts and minds of many. Is this because liberals can't handle the heat or do their ideas fail when scrutinized? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A pain the ass mostly. I have no obligation to pin it to my chest every time I go out in public. Nor do I need one for any of my other guns. And this is all in one of the most restrictive states in the country, plenty of the other states don't have any type of permit to own a handgun (or any gun for that matter) On the federal level that stuff isn't even on the radar, except NFA items. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:14:59 PM EDT
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"Take the guns first." -Trump. We are living in very, very perilous times. The most important thing you can do? Read and understand the Constitution. Elect leaders who will uphold their Constitutional oath. Have a years supply of food. Be out of debt. Own guns. Open-borders, anti-gun, anti-conservative Democrat Jared Kushner, the Washington Puppet master-- will do a lot more damage to our Nation before it gets better. And it gets worse before it gets bad. But good wins in the end. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The man in the video is talking about free speech. In the UK and much of europe, if you say the wrong thing, use the wrong words, you could be charged with a crime, and jailed. In the United States people are censored, deplatformed, and silenced, or lose their jobs, for speaking about ideas that are contrary to the political narrative. As the gentlemen in the video said, it doesn't come overnight, it slowly evolves over time. Nazi germany didn't just persecute Jews. Although that group is talked about the most. They persecuted and sent to concentration camps all sorts of "undesirables", or people they deemed enemies of the state. I don't think we're 3 years from the ovens being fired up. But I think there is movement in the wrong direction. Free speech is being censored, and there are efforts to silence dissenting viewpoints. Whats that, you're a good party member? I saw you give food to your starving jew cousin, now get on the train. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:29:12 PM EDT
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Really the only way to curb it, is to cut federal tuition aid, and re-regulate government backed student loans. Too much money in the system is what's causing it to ramp out of control. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:32:01 PM EDT
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Then you just have a bunch of idiots in the country. We need to create competition with that and Healthcare, it will solve the problems right quick. "you want to work? Go learn STEM from a non-liberal univeristy." And the costs will be reflective of value, im sure an art history degree will be $5. I think this thread has derailed a bit by going after direct parallels to Germany when it wont be the same thing. You can name plenty of things that are likely to lead to corruption on both sides of the aisle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really the only way to curb it, is to cut federal tuition aid, and re-regulate government backed student loans. Too much money in the system is what's causing it to ramp out of control. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:33:01 PM EDT
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People that want the Bill of Rights reaffirmed should join together. It's not just the 2nd Amendment now. It's the 1st and all the rest as well. Perhaps we should all get behind a Bill of Rights movement. Trying to protect our rights to toys is stupid. Our guns are simply the last resort to defend the rest. The dreadful TOOL to use to make sure .gov doesn't get too "lawful" in destroying individual rights. The last shield against mob democracy and tyrannical corruption. I'm kind of fond of free speech, security of person, papers and property. I kind of want public trials, with juries, and the assumption of innocent unless proven guilty. I grow weary of laws by hired bureaucrats rubber stamped often without thought or understanding by elected representatives. I'm sick and tired of corporate oligarchy, and government directed by the coin of special interest. I actually want an up and down vote on all regulations that carry the coercion of law. I want sunset provisions, so that stupid laws don't continue into perpetuity, only to become part of the genealogy of some future tyranny. I am sick of the type of people who are electable. They're often borderline narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths. I don't want these people making careers and family fortunes through government. Our Republic is sick. I don't want it to be a terminal illness. I don't want to become violent. @Miami_JBT Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Good point. We should do it, but we have no leadership and no solidarity. Now days, the Gandhi figure would be identified and discredited, jailed or killed. Early in the process. Trying to protect our rights to toys is stupid. Our guns are simply the last resort to defend the rest. The dreadful TOOL to use to make sure .gov doesn't get too "lawful" in destroying individual rights. The last shield against mob democracy and tyrannical corruption. I'm kind of fond of free speech, security of person, papers and property. I kind of want public trials, with juries, and the assumption of innocent unless proven guilty. I grow weary of laws by hired bureaucrats rubber stamped often without thought or understanding by elected representatives. I'm sick and tired of corporate oligarchy, and government directed by the coin of special interest. I actually want an up and down vote on all regulations that carry the coercion of law. I want sunset provisions, so that stupid laws don't continue into perpetuity, only to become part of the genealogy of some future tyranny. I am sick of the type of people who are electable. They're often borderline narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths. I don't want these people making careers and family fortunes through government. Our Republic is sick. I don't want it to be a terminal illness. I don't want to become violent. @Miami_JBT That being said, the 2nd is under a far deeper assault than any other coded freedoms we enjoy. I need to start an organization dedicated to something like this, but the truth is, I can't see people actually giving a fuck beyond donating a few dollars and thumping their chest. As someone in this thread pointed out, every time there's a rally, small pathetic numbers show up. Whether it's due to a cowardly "opsec" thinking, pure laziness, or just a simple inability to sacrifice their time, work, or family...in the end people just don't give a damn. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:36:43 PM EDT
[#43]
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I've been saying for a while that IF there's going to be a civil conflict, it's going to be global in scale. The UK is fighting the same fight we are. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:40:18 PM EDT
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We're quickly approaching this. https://media.click2houston.com/photo/2018/01/23/patch_1516734607150_11543477_ver1.0_1280_720.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? https://media.click2houston.com/photo/2018/01/23/patch_1516734607150_11543477_ver1.0_1280_720.jpg |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:48:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These days I wonder if the UK isn't a willing participant. Havent pondered it myself. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 9:38:06 PM EDT
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Yeah I can see where one would think that. Havent pondered it myself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: These days I wonder if the UK isn't a willing participant. Havent pondered it myself. With that said, I think the motivations of people are different. Depending on their circumstance. Obviously someone who enjoys stability, and or power and wealth, from a particular order, doesn't want that order upset. We all want personal security and stability. But in a heirarcal human society that's different depending on what level you find yourself. I don't think you can lump everyone in the UK into one group. But I think the motivations of the political elite in the UK are the same as the political elite of the US, or any other nation. When you find yourself on top. The last thing you want is for those below you to be able to use force against you. They vastly outnumber you. If they should become dissatisfied with their lot in life, wake up and realize your vulnerabilities, they can easily destroy you, and the order that provides you privilege and comfort. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 9:53:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These days I wonder if the UK isn’t a willing participant. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:04:46 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? Your post is pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:27:52 AM EDT
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Wow! Things must really be seriously bad up there in ME or where ever it is that you reside. Federal District Judges don't give a $h!t about people up there? So, I'm guessing that if it's that bad in your district, that judges don't bother to issue search warrants for anything up there because the police and federal agents can just indiscriminately pick and choose a nondescript home to kick in the door and search for drugs and contraband? And all criminal cases brought against anyone, guilty or not, with or without evidence, are just found guilty by the judge on a bench trial because the judge won't let you have a jury trial??? Wow! That really is bad up there. It's a police state and since you stated that the Supreme Court won't do anything, it will never change. Gee, that's too bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Red flag laws mean it’s already a thing here. Judges don’t give a shit about you or your perceived liberty, even the Supreme Court couldn’t care less about hearing second amendment cases, and will reaffirm any decision made by their swamp masters. I don't blame law enforcement for retarded legislation or politics. Tell the people that have to deal with red flag laws that the courts care about their liberty, I like funny jokes too. I also don't think the fact that the higher courts reaffirmed and enable such wonderful liberties as murdering viable fetuses in order to harvest their organs for profit has anything to do with a police state.
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Posted: 4/25/2019 9:10:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police state? lol no. Surveillance state? Yes, but that whole strawman is beside the point. I don't blame law enforcement for retarded legislation or politics. Tell the people that have to deal with red flag laws that the courts care about their liberty, I like funny jokes too. I also don't think the fact that the higher courts reaffirmed and enable such wonderful liberties as murdering viable fetuses in order to harvest their organs for profit has anything to do with a police state. If you're doing something bad or evil, I don't accept the excuse that you're just following "lawful" orders, or that you're just doing your job. If it's evil it's evil, if it's wrong you're individually accountable for your own actions. Your title, job, or career, has nothing to do with it. What Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong, did was "lawful". Lawful can be wrong, and lawful can be evil. So, I do blame police for carrying out bad or evil "lawful" orders. Quit, go find some other job to earn a living, or move to a state that has better laws. But don't just do evil shit, and feel like it's ok because it's "lawful". Without legions of willing law enforcement, evil politicians, and judges couldn't enforce their evil "lawful" orders. |
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