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Posted: 6/29/2022 2:43:01 PM EST
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Quoted: For some reason i have gotten the itch where i'm wanting to get a M1A SOCOM 16. I'm aware of most of the cons, (Heavy, loud, lots of concussion, not super accurate) for folks that bought one, have you enjoyed it? would you do it again? |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 2:44:33 PM EST
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Want one in 6.5 Creedmoor.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:07:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And helped keep me from getting rid of mine for "the next gun". It's also a great travel rifle if using 10 round mags. Should be legal in most States, and can take care of any problem. And it doesn't look as "scary" as the FAL, G3, AR10, Scars, etc. Here's how the Scout looks today. I see SA just came out with a similar paint scheme and copied me.  https://i.imgur.com/UXoQoz9.jpg Nope, still scary......
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:14:27 PM EST
[#4]
Go for it, the most fun shooting rifle I have
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:16:11 PM EST
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I think if its a gun you are wishing to own, and you got the extra scratch itching to be spent, go for it. My only time I have behind one, was standard Army issue 22" M1a we got from 1st Group prior to a deployment when we wanted something in between our 556 rifles and our bolt guns. We slapped on Leupold mil dot optics on them and they shot fairly well, Id say 1 inch ish with 175gr m118. I did not deploy it very often but it was a solid rifle and it had that old school vibe which was cool.
I never got in to them too much in civilian life, but I keep thinking I should own one. I heard BULA? makes a good one. Also heard good things from Fulton Armory, but they are more $$. And btw, there are some nice looking rigs on here ladies and gents :) |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:22:25 PM EST
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I wanted one until I realized they're garbage
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:25:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had one and sold it. Too heavy to be a field gun and not accurate enough to be a bench gun. I shot an Appleseed with one. Get the full size or an optic.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:29:02 PM EST
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Had one, sold it the last great panic and funded a SCAR 17. No regrets on getting rid of it.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 3:31:47 PM EST
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I see nothing an M1A does that an AR10 doesn't do for cheaper and easier. Or lighter, for that matter
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:17:52 PM EST
[#10]
I enjoy shooting it.
It's a pig it's not the most accurate but not the least. I'm not upset that I bought it  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:19:36 PM EST
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my ears are ringing just looking at these pics
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:23:31 PM EST
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Motherfucking M1A. The mother of all battle rifles. The greatest implement of reckoning ever devised. The second son of John Garand. The better son. The son he had and raised after raising an overweight fatass that can only handle lethargically loaded 30-06. Date I say it. The greatest rifle of all time. Gods rifle. The rifle Jesus would have used when clearing the temple. The rifle angels rejoice about. The rifle of Yahweh. The rifle of David and Abraham. The rifle of the holy sovereign spaghetti monster and his Ramen son. The rifle that satan dare not touch as it would banish him to the deepest places of hell that even the price of darkness fears. Know thy rifle. Know thy love. Know that M1A is the rifle of free men.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:24:35 PM EST
[#13]
just get a SCAR 17 instead
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:28:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SOCOM 16 GI stock GI handguard New muzzle device New gas block Height correct NM front sight (nice and thin vs thick ass stock blade) Smaller peep rear sight https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20220629_131608_jpg-2435449.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20220629_131718_jpg-2435450.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20220629_131728_jpg-2435451.JPG Perfect |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:38:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go for it, the most fun shooting rifle I have They really are fun to shoot I wanted one after the very first one I shot which was a full size. That slight roll on recoil back onto the target was what sold me, just very comfortable to sight. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:39:08 PM EST
[#16]
SOCOM 16 is the gun I most regret selling.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:39:34 PM EST
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Quoted: For some reason i have gotten the itch where i'm wanting to get a M1A SOCOM 16. I'm aware of most of the cons, (Heavy, loud, lots of concussion, not super accurate) for folks that bought one, have you enjoyed it? would you do it again? Get it if you want a range blaster, they're fun. Don't listen to all the naysayers, they think every gun needs to be sub moa or they're garbage. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:01:48 PM EST
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:10:59 PM EST
[#19]
I absolutely love mine- the only thing I’d change is I’d like to easily be able to add a bayonet to it, just because.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:11:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Scout Squad > SOCOM 16 Correct 
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:16:47 PM EST
[#21]
I get it. I wanted one bad for a little while too.
After doing some research I came to the conclusion that it's an inferior platform that can be outdone by many guns. An m1a can be solid at least, but not if it's a socom. Frankly, it's just obsolete. Gun design has surpassed it, and it would never be relevant as a clean sheet design. Its greatest appeal is vintage. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:18:04 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Had one, sold it the last great panic and funded a SCAR 17. No regrets on getting rid of it. SCAR 17 is a much better gun than the SOCOM, in every way. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:18:35 PM EST
[#23]
21" barrel or bust. 16" is too short.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:20:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SCAR 17 is a much better gun than the SOCOM, in every way. True, and while id prefer a scar 17 over an AR10. A well made AR10 is pretty dang comparable to a scar at a fraction of the price. LMT also makes a sweet 308 based on the MRP. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:24:35 PM EST
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Buddy has an M1A Soccom in an EBR stock.
Looks nice, took quite a bit to get it running right. Firing ping and bolt face were off from the factory, getting light primer strikes.. I like my FAL better. I am jealous of the Cheap and Available M1A magazines. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 6:30:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Frankly, it's just obsolete. Gun design has surpassed it, and it would never be relevant as a clean sheet design. Its greatest appeal is vintage. Guns can just be fun ya know. USP is obsolete as well, btw. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 7:36:07 PM EST
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Well I guess I should mention I recently acquired a Loaded M1A. so that’s why I’m looking for a shorty version.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 8:30:06 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Scout Squad > SOCOM 16 Yep |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 8:48:36 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Old GI’s thought the m16 was a step back from 308. They were vindicated when the early m16s jammed. Nothing wrong with the M14 in semi. The criteria set by the mil made it try to do too many things. It was set up failure and at a critical time between weapon designs and doctrine. Historically, it was vanilla. Fixed the Garands limitations but not innovative enough post Vietnam. Old GIs didn't have 50 years of 5.56 to review, combat-wise, and were told by men who went to combat with 30-06s that the 308 was a weak caliber. Nice try, though. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 8:51:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love mine I'll never get rid of it https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20191210_173047-2200948.jpg how well does it Surpress? I remember something about it having to be modified or parts or something. I've really wanted one over the years but it's against my religion to have a rifle I cannot surpress. ETA: never mind |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 8:51:39 PM EST
[#31]
I love my SOCOM. Would never part with it. I have a PTR as well, I would sell it if the opportunity arises. So far it has not.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 8:54:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old GIs didn't have 50 years of 5.56 to review, combat-wise, and were told by men who went to combat with 30-06s that the 308 was a weak caliber. Nice try, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Old GI’s thought the m16 was a step back from 308. They were vindicated when the early m16s jammed. Nothing wrong with the M14 in semi. The criteria set by the mil made it try to do too many things. It was set up failure and at a critical time between weapon designs and doctrine. Historically, it was vanilla. Fixed the Garands limitations but not innovative enough post Vietnam. Old GIs didn't have 50 years of 5.56 to review, combat-wise, and were told by men who went to combat with 30-06s that the 308 was a weak caliber. Nice try, though. They had 50+ years of 30-06/308, world wars and more combined combat then Vietnam and any war we fought since with the m16/m4. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:31:42 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see nothing an M1A does that an AR10 doesn't do for cheaper and easier. Or lighter, for that matter Buttstroke |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:34:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Scout Squad > SOCOM 16 |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:48:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had 50+ years of 30-06/308, world wars and more combined combat then Vietnam and any war we fought since with the m16/m4. You have no point, 5.56 is a superior round for 99% of infantrymen. There's a use for the larger round for a DMR role, but not for everyone. THAT'S been proven by the 50 years of 5.56. All that was proven by 50+ years of 30-06 (not 308, which was a flash in the pan) was that it was replaced by the 5.56. Let it go, boomer. 30 cal battle rifles aren't coming back. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:50:17 PM EST
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Great fun to shoot, but having an AR-10 and a Garand gives it (or any other M1A) no place in my safe. The AR is less fun and interesting to shoot, but it's a better choice for any other rifle task I've been able to come up with. The Garand is even more fun than the M1A and carries the real actual "been there, done that" history of WW2 and Korea. I like them, and if you have a specific preference they're good little M1A variants, but for me at least I couldn't find a reason to keep it.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:53:23 PM EST
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:58:28 PM EST
[#38]
Every few years I buy one. I marvel at the wood and steel American goodness. Then I shoot it. Then I sell it.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 10:04:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buttstroke Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I see nothing an M1A does that an AR10 doesn't do for cheaper and easier. Or lighter, for that matter Buttstroke Bwahahaha! |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 10:22:47 PM EST
[#40]
Fell in love with this version when it came out. Don’t know why, cause she’s THICC, but she’s fun to handle!
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Posted: 6/29/2022 10:31:06 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wanted one until I realized they're garbage 
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Posted: 6/29/2022 11:08:03 PM EST
[#42]
Go get a LRB with 18 inch barrel. Looks way better than stubby
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Posted: 6/29/2022 11:21:13 PM EST
[#43]
man, I just think this thing looks amazeballz... I'm pretty ambivalent about the scout rail thingy anyway..
 I always wanted a "tanker" Garand |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 11:38:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have no point, 5.56 is a superior round for 99% of infantrymen. There's a use for the larger round for a DMR role, but not for everyone. THAT'S been proven by the 50 years of 5.56. All that was proven by 50+ years of 30-06 (not 308, which was a flash in the pan) was that it was replaced by the 5.56. Let it go, boomer. 30 cal battle rifles aren't coming back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They had 50+ years of 30-06/308, world wars and more combined combat then Vietnam and any war we fought since with the m16/m4. You have no point, 5.56 is a superior round for 99% of infantrymen. There's a use for the larger round for a DMR role, but not for everyone. THAT'S been proven by the 50 years of 5.56. All that was proven by 50+ years of 30-06 (not 308, which was a flash in the pan) was that it was replaced by the 5.56. Let it go, boomer. 30 cal battle rifles aren't coming back. Missing my point. Veterans vouch for the weapon/cartridge that saved them while in war. Combat develops deep rooted feelings of good or bad for tangible things. When the military makes a change, the older veterans trash it while the new guys like it. Everything has pro/con. Why is the mil switching to a heavier M5 (m14+m4 in weight)? 5.56 used after 50 years of fighting malnurished 90lb Vietcong, ill equipped Iraqis, and tunnel goat fuckers the 5.56 won’t do its job against a near peer army like China with modern body armor. The mil went back down the road the m4 bois knocked. Don’t get mad at me, just pointing it all out. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 11:43:40 PM EST
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I forget I have it since I have so many nicer .308’s I prefer to it, but my 16” M1A is still a nice rifle in its own right and very cool.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 11:46:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it. I wanted one bad for a little while too. After doing some research I came to the conclusion that it's an inferior platform that can be outdone by many guns. An m1a can be solid at least, but not if it's a socom. Frankly, it's just obsolete. Gun design has surpassed it, and it would never be relevant as a clean sheet design. Its greatest appeal is vintage. Ironic username relative to post content |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:03:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: man, I just think this thing looks amazeballz... I'm pretty ambivalent about the scout rail thingy anyway.. https://www.riflegear.com/images/product/large/12122.jpg I always wanted a "tanker" Garand I had one of the Fulton Armory .308 builds. It's one those things I regret selling. |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:06:47 AM EST
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Quoted: For some reason i have gotten the itch where i'm wanting to get a M1A SOCOM 16. I'm aware of most of the cons, (Heavy, loud, lots of concussion, not super accurate) for folks that bought one, have you enjoyed it? would you do it again? I have an original M1A "Bush" model, which was really the precursor to the Scout. I like it, but for some reason the even shorter SOCOM 16 appeals to me...it's on my list as well. I like big diameter, short boom guns ROCK6 |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:09:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5.56 used after 50 years of fighting malnurished 90lb Vietcong, ill equipped Iraqis, and tunnel goat fuckers the 5.56 won’t do its job against a near peer army like China with modern body armor. There are 5.56 rounds which will defeat body armor. I doubt that the SIG is particularly better at that. |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:25:35 AM EST
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Quote History@yamahawarrior89 What stock setup is that? |
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