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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:19:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:21:19 PM EDT
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Well, this happened 14 miles downstream from a fairly small damn, so you should be good to go in a johnboat or kayak as others have suggested.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:29:41 PM EDT
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 Terrifying moment of Brazil dam collapse caught on camera |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:33:46 PM EDT
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Hot air balloon, inflated tied off, ready to hop in and float above the raging flood waters. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:34:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:37:45 PM EDT
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boats won't help in a damn break, tidal wave kind of thing. They would be great to have in a slow flood/rising water situation. Lots of images of people walking flat bottom boats around the streets after Harvey and stuff.
If it's just you I would think a decent kayak (sit on top) or canoe would be fine. A kayak is light and cheap, and you can store it tied to the ceiling of a garage or similar so it's not on the way. Anything else is bigger and more annoying, and may need 2 people. I would think a more viable solution is some supplies and a powered saw in your attic. at 25 miles away it sounds unlikely that you'll have 3 stories of water hit you fast. so be able to be up there, cut yourself out through the top, get rescued might be a better option? Not sure. I live in Texsa now and on one of the highest hills in the area, so not super concerned. Both times my house flooded in Florida it was under a foot of water that got it. Oh you should have sandbags for the doors. If you could fill those quick you should be able to be OK through up to like 2+ feet of water as long as it's not moving fast. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:52:02 PM EDT
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Get a paramotor. They're cool as hell and you can fly away.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 12:59:28 PM EDT
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boat for an emergency? Is your Helicopter broke?
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:00:56 PM EDT
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I'd move if its an option
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:02:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:11:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:15:19 PM EDT
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Cheapest quick solution is big orange PFDs, not a boat. If you don't want a boat and don't want to store it and won't use one, but still want a "boat" for an emergency, you can get a surplus self inflating life raft in your price range.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:24:04 PM EDT
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There's an instructional video called "Evan Almighty" you might want to check out.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:24:41 PM EDT
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This is going to depend on the geography, the amount of water, and the amount of head at the dam.
There would be lots of debris for sure, but debris is drag on the water. Past Tulsa there isn't a steep embankment so much to keep the river in so I bet it would slow down to the point it would just be "raised 4 feet in an hour" type flooding where a boat would be useful. You guys saying "u gon git ground up!" are thinking he's on the water's edge and close to the dam. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:30:05 PM EDT
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Maybe a surf board instead
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:30:22 PM EDT
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LCAC, you can probably put most if not all of your belongings on it and leave.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:50:24 PM EDT
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LCAC, you can probably put most if not all of your belongings on it and leave.  He's looking for serious replies here.
What you want, OP, is a LARC. You can daily drive it when you aren't using it to escape biblical flooding. 
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Posted: 5/23/2019 1:52:18 PM EDT
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I'd do a 12ft. Jon boat with a 9.9hp in the back and 40lb thrust TM up front. Should get you just about anywhere you need to go in a water's rising situation. Shop around, you can find an older used one in that range. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 2:01:27 PM EDT
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Well, this happened 14 miles downstream from a fairly small damn, so you should be good to go in a johnboat or kayak as others have suggested. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 2:13:15 PM EDT
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OP, fuck abuncha jon boat. See that hill on the left side of the photo. I’d be looking for the closest thing to me that looked like that and figuring out how to get there with a quickness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, this happened 14 miles downstream from a fairly small damn, so you should be good to go in a johnboat or kayak as others have suggested. https://media.nationalgeographic.org/assets/photos/000/296/29625.jpg  Catapult parachuting |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 2:20:18 PM EDT
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Well, this happened 14 miles downstream from a fairly small damn, so you should be good to go in a johnboat or kayak as others have suggested. https://media.nationalgeographic.org/assets/photos/000/296/29625.jpg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQJAtcq2pPE |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 2:22:17 PM EDT
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14?Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; you shall make the ark with rooms, and shall cover it inside and out with pitch. 15?This is how you shall make it: the length of the ark three hundred cubits, its breadth fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16?You shall make a window for the ark, and finish it to a cubit from the top; and set the door of the ark in the side of it; you shall make it with lower, second, and third decks…
A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above, and the door of the ark shall you set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shall you make it. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 2:32:11 PM EDT
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Check out Walmart
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Posted: 5/23/2019 3:56:56 PM EDT
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I originally thought about a canoe, but now I think something wider would be better. Alumnacraft? Edit to add- i am 25 miles down stream of the Keystone Dam on the Arkansas River. My guess is that prior to failure there would be massive releases . And then with the distance I am away, i woukd not expect a tsunami wave....hopefully. I was envisioning waking up to chin deep water. to the edge of Riveside drive.Low lying areas did flood of course but the dam was never in any real danger.If your that worried about it you should be preparing to evacuate. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 4:01:11 PM EDT
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Your plan sounds like a damn failure.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 4:21:03 PM EDT
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Can we get long story long and hear what did (or would) help? A tornado shelter? One of those little yellow plastic inflatable life vests? A 9mm round to the CNS? |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 4:23:35 PM EDT
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We have a member whos neighbor is a helicopter pilot. Maybe he can pick you up in your time of need.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 4:23:45 PM EDT
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I know one thing. We dont need any dam inspectors. You live below one, your ass needs to be up there checking for cracks!
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Posted: 5/23/2019 4:52:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2019 8:30:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's looking for serious replies here.
What you want, OP, is a LARC. You can daily drive it when you aren't using it to escape biblical flooding. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/An_Army_LARC_60_amphibious_landing_craft.JPEG |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 1:50:13 AM EDT
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Since when is the Keystone dam at risk? Yeah they are releasing a ton of water but that is to be expected at this point.
I have my bug out bags ready if need be, I would load up as and unass the area to higher ground before I tried anything with a boat. But that's just me. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:00:50 AM EDT
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Since when is the Keystone dam at risk? Yeah they are releasing a ton of water but that is to be expected at this point. I have my bug out bags ready if need be, I would load up as and unass the area to higher ground before I tried anything with a boat. But that's just me. A guy i know that lives on the lake said it was bowing outwards by about 7 inches. He seemd like he knew what he was talking about. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:09:20 AM EDT
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The damn is not at risk,it was worse back in the 70's than it is now and the water under the I-44 bridge only got to the edge of Riveside drive.Low lying areas did flood of course but the dam was never in any real danger.If your that worried about it you should be preparing to evacuate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I originally thought about a canoe, but now I think something wider would be better. Alumnacraft? Edit to add- i am 25 miles down stream of the Keystone Dam on the Arkansas River. My guess is that prior to failure there would be massive releases . And then with the distance I am away, i woukd not expect a tsunami wave....hopefully. I was envisioning waking up to chin deep water. to the edge of Riveside drive.Low lying areas did flood of course but the dam was never in any real danger.If your that worried about it you should be preparing to evacuate. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:34:23 AM EDT
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Not entirely joking. Plus, it could make for a fun hobby in the interim. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:59:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A Tulsa World article from 2011 quoted the US Army Corps of Engineers as calling it Very High Risk. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 3:02:23 AM EDT
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https://flybubble.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x/b8c9c167d7769d159b8d8ffcb5e3aa7b/p/a/paramotchg_02q_01.jpg Not entirely joking. Plus, it could make for a fun hobby in the interim. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 3:08:01 AM EDT
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Flood insurance, take a million photos of everything around your house and in your house and save them to some cloud system like Dropbox, Amazon Prime free photos storage, etc. and GET THE HELL OUT EARLY!
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:20:17 AM EDT
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A Tulsa World article from 2011 quoted the US Army Corps of Engineers as calling it Very High Risk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I originally thought about a canoe, but now I think something wider would be better. Alumnacraft? Edit to add- i am 25 miles down stream of the Keystone Dam on the Arkansas River. My guess is that prior to failure there would be massive releases . And then with the distance I am away, i woukd not expect a tsunami wave....hopefully. I was envisioning waking up to chin deep water. to the edge of Riveside drive.Low lying areas did flood of course but the dam was never in any real danger.If your that worried about it you should be preparing to evacuate. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:30:03 AM EDT
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A quickly inflating hot air balloon. You don't want to ride it out, you want to get above it.
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:37:29 AM EDT
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Even if you had time to make it into your boat, the raging flood waters would capsize you and you’d be crushed in a debris jam. Move in across the street from a nuke plant instead. Edit: Damnit, beat by 12 seconds! Got swept against a tree snag, we tried to push off but no, three guys in a 10 footer, so the back end immediately started swamping. I stepped out and climbed over the tree (which in retrospect likely made things worse as I was in the front.) Down it went. Our buddies knew something had happened when they saw their gear floating by that we had borrowed. So, they paddled around picking it up, then came back upstream against the current to see us half soaked carrying what we had bailed with. We were "fully armed" and didn't lose a round. Some soft goods went missing. They recovered the jon boat and we continued, albeit rearranged the load with the heavy guy in the middle, me at the back and the experienced paddler up front. It was moot, tho, we'd already passed the worst of it. I don't see a broken dam as anything but exponentially worse, flipping and leaving people tumbling in the waterborne debris getting ground up. Which is exactly what we see in third world countries. They search with dogs, drag your corpse out and mass bury it. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=torrential+floods&t=ffnt&iax=videos&ia=videos This is exactly why they were warning everyone in Webbers Falls, OK if the drifting barges hit the dam and caused it to collapse. They have hit the I40 bridge before, with traffic on it, no warning was given. This time traffic was shut down for hours until they found the barges. Your best remedy is high ground. Even then you can get flooding, my house on top of a hill is getting ground water in the basement. I'm a good 25 feet higher than the creek behind me. Not good enough. 4" rains and the water running off the plain to the east is trickling in. If you are living in a ravine, gully, or valley, think about what caused it to be there. It was created by flash flooding and that's what carved it out. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:44:40 AM EDT
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You need to go back and do some reading. It’s labeled a high hazard or extreme hazard, not because of it being weak but because if it were to fail there would be catastrophic damage. Damn condition is irrelevant. There are numerous articles about inspections of keystone after floods and earthquakes and not once is there a mention that the damn is in trouble. Put your tin foil hat away Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I originally thought about a canoe, but now I think something wider would be better. Alumnacraft? Edit to add- i am 25 miles down stream of the Keystone Dam on the Arkansas River. My guess is that prior to failure there would be massive releases . And then with the distance I am away, i woukd not expect a tsunami wave....hopefully. I was envisioning waking up to chin deep water. to the edge of Riveside drive.Low lying areas did flood of course but the dam was never in any real danger.If your that worried about it you should be preparing to evacuate. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:45:19 AM EDT
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25 miles? I'd say get a jon boat and call it good. May help, may not. Depends on the topography between you and it. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:52:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2019 10:08:31 AM EDT
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Maybe you should read the article because I literally copied “very high risk” from the article. Also, there were a lot of qualifiers regarding its safety. And their are other sources. But you are the expert. Please feel free to post any useful information regarding its A+ status. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I originally thought about a canoe, but now I think something wider would be better. Alumnacraft? Edit to add- i am 25 miles down stream of the Keystone Dam on the Arkansas River. My guess is that prior to failure there would be massive releases . And then with the distance I am away, i woukd not expect a tsunami wave....hopefully. I was envisioning waking up to chin deep water. to the edge of Riveside drive.Low lying areas did flood of course but the dam was never in any real danger.If your that worried about it you should be preparing to evacuate. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 10:36:34 AM EDT
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We have a member whos neighbor is a helicopter pilot. Maybe he can pick you up in your time of need. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 12:24:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:03:37 PM EDT
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The US Army Corps of Engineers called it “Very High Risk” as recently as 2011. A guy i know that lives on the lake said it was bowing outwards by about 7 inches. He seemd like he knew what he was talking about. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:13:46 PM EDT
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I’m thinking something more like this
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:14:13 PM EDT
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Are you kidding me? I live here, there are absolutely lake front homes as well as neighborhoods that are very close by. Those people are probably very in the know on dam stuff. Also, you must be retarded if you cant perform a basic internet search that took me 10 seconds. Do your own research. I came here for advice about boats in the event of flooding. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 2:17:29 PM EDT
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You will not safely float out of a broken dam situation. It ain't like you think. But something light and narrow might not be a bad idea. |
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