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4/10/2009 8:21:06 AM EDT
Guys, I am taking introductary alagabra. Its an online class so I am not learing anthing. I have read over my book twice so far and I am still stuck on a few questions.

The first is this



z(cubed)-125/z-5



I can only come up with 2z(squared)+5z-25.





Its a multiple choice question and my answer doesnt fit. I am lost. I know I am dumb but can someone explain to me how to get the right answer?
4/10/2009 8:25:24 AM EDT
[#1]
where did the x come from in you answer?
4/10/2009 8:28:13 AM EDT
[#2]




Quoted:

where did the x come from in you answer?




my bad, that is supposed to be a Z
4/10/2009 8:30:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Are you supposed to solve for z or  just reduce the equation?
4/10/2009 8:30:24 AM EDT
[#4]
z2 + 5z + 25
( a3 - b3 ) = ( a - b ) * ( a2 + ab + b2 )
( z3 - 125) = ( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )
( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )



_____________________        =      (z2 + 5z + 25 )






( z - 5)



 
4/10/2009 8:31:22 AM EDT
[#5]
I think that is called the difference of cubes. You might be able to look that up and see if that will help any.
4/10/2009 8:31:42 AM EDT
[#6]
Z(2) - 25.     Or (z+5)(z-5)
4/10/2009 8:37:18 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Guys, I am taking introductary alagabra. Its an online class so I am not learing anthing. I have read over my book twice so far and I am still stuck on a few questions.
The first is this

z(cubed)-125/z-5

I can only come up with 2z(squared)+5z-25.


Its a multiple choice question and my answer doesnt fit. I am lost. I know I am dumb but can someone explain to me how to get the right answer?


I don't understand the question are you supposed to solve for Z? Or are you supposed to just simplify? and where is the = and the other side of the equation?? (Also, on computers the exponent is written as follows   23^2  <––––  that means 23 "squared". X^3  <––- that means X "cubed"
There are many ways to "atttack" an algebra problem. I hate it when there is a Fraction with a variable so id mulitply that to both sides.
4/10/2009 8:39:17 AM EDT
[#8]




Quoted:

z2 + 5z + 25




How do you get that +5z? That is where I am stuck.
I fucking hate algebra. Most pointless math ever.
4/10/2009 8:40:20 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
z2 + 5z + 25




This.  Use synthetic division.

      1    0    0   -125

5           5    25   125  
      1   5    25      (0)  = z2 + 5z + 25



4/10/2009 8:40:53 AM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:





Quoted:

z2 + 5z + 25




How do you get that +5z? That is where I am stuck.
I fucking hate algebra. Most pointless math ever.


See my edit



 
4/10/2009 8:41:21 AM EDT
[#11]




Quoted:



Quoted:

Guys, I am taking introductary alagabra. Its an online class so I am not learing anthing. I have read over my book twice so far and I am still stuck on a few questions.

The first is this



z(cubed)-125/z-5



I can only come up with 2z(squared)+5z-25.





Its a multiple choice question and my answer doesnt fit. I am lost. I know I am dumb but can someone explain to me how to get the right answer?




I don't understand the question are you supposed to solve for Z? Or are you supposed to just simplify? and where is the = and the other side of the equation?? (Also, on computers the exponent is written as follows 23^2 <–––– that means 23 "squared". X^3 <––- that means X "cubed"

There are many ways to "atttack" an algebra problem. I hate it when there is a Fraction with a variable so id mulitply that to both sides.


Simplify.



Ok here it is again

z^3-125/z-5



I understand how to get the z^2 and 25 but where does the 5z come from?

4/10/2009 8:43:05 AM EDT
[#12]




Quoted:



Quoted:

z2 + 5z + 25

This. Use synthetic division.



1 0 0 -125



5 5 25 125

1 5 25 (0) = z2 + 5z + 25




God I havent seen that in so long. I dont even remember how to use it. Luckily my poly sci degree only requires 2 math classes and this is one of them.



I plan on retaking this class later this year in an actual classroom. I cant learn shit doing these online classes.
4/10/2009 8:44:36 AM EDT
[#13]
(Z-5)^2
4/10/2009 8:45:44 AM EDT
[#14]




Quoted:

z2 + 5z + 25
( a3 - b3 ) = ( a - b ) * ( a2 + ab + b2 )



( z3 - 125) = ( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )
( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )

_____________________ = (z2 + 5z + 25 )





( z - 5)

Ok but how did you get to that? I am stuck on the beginning. I am getting so irritated and disheartened because of this. I will never use shit like this so why in the hell do i need to know how to do it? How about teaching personal finance.



4/10/2009 8:52:43 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

Quoted:
z2 + 5z + 25




( a3 - b3 ) = ( a - b ) * ( a2 + ab + b2 )

( z3 - 125) = ( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )



( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )
_____________________ = (z2 + 5z + 25 )

( z - 5)
Ok but how did you get to that? I am stuck on the beginning. I am getting so irritated and disheartened because of this. I will never use shit like this so why in the hell do i need to know how to do it? How about teaching personal finance.





That is the formula for factoring the difference of two cubes - you just memorize it and use it whenever you need it.

I always hated memorization, so I try to find methods that will yield the correct result without plugging in numbers to a formula.  In this case, you are dividing a 3rd degree polynomial by a 1st degree polynomial, and synthetic division is the quickest method.


4/10/2009 8:54:56 AM EDT
[#16]
OK, i assume you mean that the other side means X so it goes as follows––––

Z^3 - Z125 /  Z- 5 = X      Solve for X

Get rid of that fucking Denomiator by multiplying both side by Z-5  that gives you

(Z^3 - Z125)  = X (Z-5)



Z^3 - Z125 = X(Z-5)        <–––––– that is the answer. If you want to simplify it more you factor out the Z^3-Z125.



To  Simplify Z^3 - Z125            you take out the Z

So that leaves you Z (Z^2 - 125)

4/10/2009 8:56:23 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:





Quoted:

z2 + 5z + 25
( a3 - b3 ) = ( a - b ) * ( a2 + ab + b2 )



( z3 - 125) = ( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )
( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )

_____________________ = (z2 + 5z + 25 )




( z - 5)

Ok but how did you get to that? I am stuck on the beginning. I am getting so irritated and disheartened because of this. I will never use shit like this so why in the hell do i need to know how to do it? How about teaching personal finance.





Sorry, I'm not sure how to break it down any simpler without going into a proof of why

( a3 - b3 ) = ( a - b ) * ( a2 + ab + b2 )  

which is definitely not a beginner Algebra lesson.



4/10/2009 8:59:13 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:




I fucking hate algebra. Most pointless math ever.


AMEN TO THAT!
4/10/2009 9:02:08 AM EDT
[#19]
Z^3 - 125 is (Z-5)^3 so (Z-5)^3 / z-5 simplifies to (z-5)^2
4/10/2009 9:06:16 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
z2 + 5z + 25




( a3 - b3 ) = ( a - b ) * ( a2 + ab + b2 )

( z3 - 125) = ( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )



( z - 5 ) * (z2 + 5z + 25 )
_____________________        =      (z2 + 5z + 25 )

( z - 5)
 




Difference of two cubes over z-5, FOIL the top , cancel the denomitaor and bingo Z^2+5Z+25
4/10/2009 9:06:59 AM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


Z^3 - 125 is (Z-5)^3 so (Z-5)^3 / z-5 simplifies to (z-5)^2


Nope.



 
4/10/2009 9:09:14 AM EDT
[#22]
Ok this is another question that I swear is a trick one.



x^4-16/x^2-4



I swear the answer is x^2+4
4/10/2009 9:12:12 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Z^3 - 125 is (Z-5)^3 so (Z-5)^3 / z-5 simplifies to (z-5)^2

Nope.
 


Yes. -5^3 is -125 all day long.
4/10/2009 9:14:10 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Ok this is another question that I swear is a trick one.

x^4-16/x^2-4

I swear the answer is x^2+4


That is the correct answer.
4/10/2009 9:15:57 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


Ok this is another question that I swear is a trick one.



x^4-16/x^2-4



I swear the answer is x^2+4


Looks good to me.



 
4/10/2009 9:21:47 AM EDT
[#26]





Quoted:





Quoted:
Quoted:


Z^3 - 125 is (Z-5)^3 so (Z-5)^3 / z-5 simplifies to (z-5)^2



Nope.


 






Yes. -5^3 is -125 all day long.



Of course, but ( z - 5 )3 is equal to ( z3 - 15z2 + 75z - 125 ).





Look at it this way: plug a random # in for z, lets use 7.  So you are saying that ( 73 - 125 ) is equal to (7 - 5)3 .





( 73 - 125 ) = 218





( 7 - 5 )3 = 8





 
4/10/2009 9:25:59 AM EDT
[#27]
ok I swear last question. I am so going to fail my final I can already tell.








(7x+3/11)(7x-3/11)



= 49x^2-7x(3/11)+7x(3/11)-9/121



= 49x^2-9/121
4/10/2009 9:28:22 AM EDT
[#28]
Was there a text book assigned for your class?  If not, buy a solutions manual for a similar class.  I used this method to get through several algebra/statistics classes.  I ended up buying solutions manuals from amazon.com for classes that were similar to mine.  They show how to go through each problem step by step, just find a problem that is similar to yours.  There are also many online free math tutor sites.  Good Luck.
4/10/2009 9:30:37 AM EDT
[#29]




Quoted:

Was there a text book assigned for your class? If not, buy a solutions manual for a similar class. I used this method to get through several algebra/statistics classes. I ended up buying solutions manuals from amazon.com for classes that were similar to mine. They show how to go through each problem step by step, just find a problem that is similar to yours. There are also many online free math tutor sites. Good Luck.




Yes I have a book but it doesnt explain enough for me to understand. This is why I cannot take online math classes. I need to sit in a classroom so my teacher can show me how dumb I really am.
4/10/2009 9:31:39 AM EDT
[#30]
To the OP.  Why don't you list the multiple choice answers for the 2 questions
4/10/2009 9:39:14 AM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


ok I swear last question. I am so going to fail my final I can already tell.








(7x+3/11)(7x-3/11)



= 49x^2-7x(3/11)+7x(3/11)-9/121



= 49x^2-9/121



 Looks like you've got difference of squares licked.  Study up more on difference of cubes and you should do fine.



 
4/10/2009 9:39:57 AM EDT
[#32]




Quoted:

To the OP. Why don't you list the multiple choice answers for the 2 questions




Z^3-125/Z-5



1)z^2-5z+25

2)Z^2+10z+25

3)Z^2+5z-25

4)Z^2+5z=25





X^4-16/X^2-4



1)X^2+4

2)X^2+2X+2

3)X^2-4

4)X^2-4x+2

4/10/2009 9:41:59 AM EDT
[#33]




Quoted:

Was there a text book assigned for your class? If not, buy a solutions manual for a similar class. I used this method to get through several algebra/statistics classes. I ended up buying solutions manuals from amazon.com for classes that were similar to mine. They show how to go through each problem step by step, just find a problem that is similar to yours. There are also many online free math tutor sites. Good Luck.


Is this what you are talking about?



http://www.amazon.com/Student-Solutions-manual-Introductory-Algebra/dp/0321285808/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1239384871&sr=8-15

4/10/2009 9:44:49 AM EDT
[#34]
Well fuck me.  Sad part is my wife teaches this crap.
4/10/2009 9:47:44 AM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:





Quoted:

To the OP. Why don't you list the multiple choice answers for the 2 questions




Z^3-125/Z-5



1)z^2-5z+25

2)Z^2+10z+25

3)Z^2+5z-25

4)Z^2+5z=25





X^4-16/X^2-4



1)X^2+4

2)X^2+2X+2

3)X^2-4

4)X^2-4x+2




 None of those choices are right.



 
4/10/2009 9:53:23 AM EDT
[#36]




Quoted:





Quoted:





Quoted:

To the OP. Why don't you list the multiple choice answers for the 2 questions




Z^3-125/Z-5



1)z^2-5z+25

2)Z^2+10z+25

3)Z^2+5z-25

4)Z^2+5z=25





X^4-16/X^2-4



1)X^2+4

2)X^2+2X+2

3)X^2-4

4)X^2-4x+2




None of those choices are right.



How about 4)z^2+5z+25



Sorry.

4/10/2009 10:00:01 AM EDT
[#37]


4/10/2009 10:50:43 AM EDT
[#38]
Thanks to everyone who helped me. Those questions were from quiz 4 and I still had to do quiz 3. After your help with quiz 4, quiz 3 was easy. I am now just reading up on Negative Exponents and Scientific Notation, Exponents and operations on polynomials, and dividing polynomials, the same crap you helped me with. I have to post 1 answer only from 1 of the 3 sections. That is why I dont learn anything here. Not enough homework.
4/10/2009 11:07:02 AM EDT
[#39]
Buy a TI-89.
4/10/2009 1:30:56 PM EDT
[#40]




Quoted:

Buy a TI-89.




I dont want to know the answer I want to see how to get the answer.
4/10/2009 1:42:10 PM EDT
[#41]



















To the OP, I almost forgot the order of operations until you posted this, and I used to love algebra. Haven't had a class in 6 year's though.





Jeremy



ETA : The reason as to why I love Algebra is, because that's the basis for Chemistry and I love chemistry.  
 

 
4/10/2009 1:51:34 PM EDT
[#42]
Thank you for reminding me why I hate algebra.

You would not believe the arguments I had over dividing by 0