Posted: 10/3/2011 5:25:28 PM EDT
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Then what does ARFCOM recommend for a level-2 holster? |
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Oh boy, are we still on the Serpa hating because of a couple idiots? I like my SERPA Me too. After 8 hours and 500 rounds, hung over at the training class I still didn't have a problem with the thing. Between the mag release, decock, slide release, and trigger the ONLY thing that I could consistently do without thinking was getting the gun out of the holster safely. |
| I have used both the Serpa and the Safariland 6004 at work. I personally think the Safariland is a much better holster due to materials used, workmandship, fit and finish, and lastly how it retains the firearm. I own three Safariland holsters and zero Serpa holsters. I don't see that changing anytime soon. |
I have a SERPA. I even use it on occasion.
But I do understand the SERPA hate. For a range toy, yeah, go with the SERPA. For serious business of any sort, I'd avoid the SERPA, The whole "SERPA-ND" thing is a training issue IMO. I'm more concerned about its susceptibility to gravel or other crap jamming the release mechanism. |
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Quoted: I have a SERPA. I even use it on occasion. But I do understand the SERPA hate. For a range toy, yeah, go with the SERPA. For serious business of any sort, I'd avoid the SERPA, The whole "SERPA-ND" thing is a training issue IMO. I'm more concerned about its susceptibility to gravel or other crap jamming the release mechanism. I agree. Going from from a Glock in a thumb driven holster to a 1911 with a thumb safety in a trigger finger holster doesn't help either. This is my main concern. |
| May I ask why level II retention is critical for your purposes? Are you planning on open carrying? A good kydex holster without retention devices will let you get higher quality at a similar price point, if range work and OWB CCW are your requirements. For rough field use (hiking, hunting, etc.) where retention is a concern I'd personally use a flap holster. |
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I have a SERPA. I even use it on occasion.
But I do understand the SERPA hate. For a range toy, yeah, go with the SERPA. For serious business of any sort, I'd avoid the SERPA, The whole "SERPA-ND" thing is a training issue IMO. I'm more concerned about its susceptibility to gravel or other crap jamming the release mechanism. +1 it works great for all the printer repairmen, not serious operators 
but seriously serpas suck |
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Makes a great bolt down holster. Have one screwed down in the car, between the seat & console. Gun stays put, and is in a nice draw location with my seatbelt on.
Have one clamped to the bicycle frame too. Barely need to take a hand from the handlebars to draw, and the only thing in line for an ND is a tire. The "oh it might jam" argument applies to anything mechanical. I had a cop bring me a 1911 that was cocked & locked with a round in the pipe. He could not disengage the safety. Turned out he had started to chase some asshole without re-holstering his weapon. Tripped on a parking bumper & went down. Got up, caught the turd & finished his shift. Discovered he had an inoperative weapon DAYS later. The failure? A dent in the spring plunger tube that was holding the safety detent in the deployed position. . |
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If that level of retention is imporant to you, why use a holster that is held to your belt with 3 screws? They rip out on any sort of serious disarm. Safari land duty holsters attach with screws too. It's definitely a more sturdy design but they can still loosen if you don't do regular maintenance. |