[ARCHIVED THREAD] - In Iraq... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/15/2010 4:57:18 PM EDT
| How many innocent civilians have died by our bullets and bombs? I've seen numbers from 8000 to 1.6 million CIVILIANS. 8000 seems way too high for collateral damage. It's not like we carpet bomb or napalm entire cities anymore. |
First you'd have to find someone in that country that is innocent. Then you would have to prove that they are indeed civilians.
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This woman says there were 4.4 million killed. These two bullets killed her and her husband, but they got better. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00DR976etH2wQ/610x.jpg holy shit that's 16,000 per day killed by flying brass! |
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This woman says there were 4.4 million killed. These two bullets killed her and her husband, but they got better. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00DR976etH2wQ/610x.jpg 
Somebody should show her and weapons work. What she meant to say was, not those two bullets, but two bullets just like them. |
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This woman says there were 4.4 million killed. These two bullets killed her and her husband, but they got better. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00DR976etH2wQ/610x.jpg
Somebody should show her and weapons work. What she meant to say was, not those two bullets, but two bullets just like them. No, IIRC that was an AP report with the woman saying those bullets were the same ones that were used. Then again, I have also seen doctored AP photos and pictures of "dead" civillians that are alive and walking in the next picture. |
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The high number, "1.6 million" or whatever it is now, came from a George Soros funded organization that used "sampling" to determine their number. It's not an accurate number. It's a guesstimation. Included in that number are all the deaths "caused by" the sanctions we put on them in 1991. |
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I remember when the Somalis said we killed a pregnant lady with a .50, and when we actually sent a team out to investigate it turns out she was hit by a truck, driven by skinnys. That was common over there. Half of the "civilians" they claim we killed ended up being casualties of skinnys shooting at any and everything. |
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This woman says there were 4.4 million killed. These two bullets killed her and her husband, but they got better. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00DR976etH2wQ/610x.jpg That made me LOL. Then a ROFL. |
| There isn't really a way to get an accurate answer. I worked foreign claims in Tikrit for a year and we got claims all the time for civilian deaths when there were no units operating in the area the claimants described. A lot of stuff that happens from AIF, tribal violence, etc. gets turned into us as a claim against coalition forces. It's a lot of bullshit to weed through. I would guess maybe one out of fifteen to twenty claimants actually received money. |
| Who cares.Mabey when the lead is a flyin get the fuck out of the way. Don't go peekin your nosey ass around the corner. If there were a war in my town I wouldn't runnin out to the market, nor would my kids just be strolling down the street. So back to who cares.....MEH |
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The insurgents have no qualms detonating IEDs or engaging in firefights with Coalition forces even if Iraqi civilians are in the way.Assigning 100% blame for civilian casualties is a very tricky matter in any war. Artillery and air strikes are highly regulated in built up areas. |
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Troll post? The insurgents have no qualms detonating IEDs or engaging in firefights with Coalition forces even if Iraqi civilians are in the way.Assigning 100% blame for civilian casualties is a very tricky matter in any war. Artillery and air strikes are highly regulated in built up areas. For that matter there were plenty of insurgent attacks specifically targeted toward civilians. |
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I cannot say a number, because like everyone else who knows exactly right? However, looking at the amount of reporters killed in Iraq kind of opens your eyes. Killed Reporters in Iraq - Sorted by perp. • Insurgent/other armed group action: 105 (Includes crossfire, suicide bombings, and murders.) • U.S. fire: 16 (CPJ has not found evidence to conclude that U.S. troops targeted journalists in these cases. Cases are classified as crossfire.) • Iraqi armed forces, during U.S. invasion: 3 (All are crossfire or acts of war.) • Iraqi armed forces, post-U.S. invasion: 1 (Crossfire) • Source unconfirmed: 14 Draw your own conclusion of who tries not to hurt Civies and who has far better ability to do so. |
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I knew some innocent civilians who were deliberately targeted by the muj because they worked for us. We had locals run off of the road and then machine-gunned to bits. Some were working as a family, father and son cut down together. One guy went to buy fuses in a shop, and had his throat cut in broad daylight. I'm sure they go on the big list of war casualties, but they died supporting something they believed in, and were killed by primitive jihadis who shouldnt be allowed to draw another breath. |