[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Inglorious Basterds was AWFUL (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 12/20/2009 9:25:53 PM EDT
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. |
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I won't say it was a bad movie but I don't think it was a good Tarantino movie either.
Obviously it doesn't have any effect on the quality of the movie but I definitely felt misled by the advertising campaign. There's 5 things I didn't like: The dialog - I actually like subtitles, I turn them on in every movie and video game I watch/play. When people complain about the subtitles I think what they are actually complaining about is the style of dialog they're reading. I love to read but I find it tiresome to read anything written in period language from about the American Revolution and before. I don't think it has anything to do with attention span as much as it does the way people communicate now. Through the increasing use of email and text messaging we try and be concise as possible. If you take 10 minutes or 3 text messages to tell me something you could have adequately conveyed in 5 minutes or 1 message I feel like you wasted my time. I think the same premise is at work here. If the movie took place in modern times I think the verbosity of the movie would have been greatly decreased and less people would have complained about it. Don't get me wrong, the dialog in the movie was (from what I understand) pretty accurate to how people spoke back then and it would have been a worse movie if it was less so. The ending (spoilers) - I didn't expect the movie to be historically accurate but to me there is a huge level of disparity between telling the tale of a fictional unit in WWII and killing Hitler. I think the jump in the level of incongruity is why most people who didn't like the ending found it so jarring. The Basterds (spoilers)- The movie was billed as the exploits of a band of Jewish Nazi hunters. However you could remove them from the movie entirely and the main plot would remain relatively unchanged. Shoshanna would still have burned down the theater killing Hitler and the rest of the Nazis. Predictability - I found all the major plot 'twists' to be fairly predictable, especially the one in the bar (although that doesn't stop it from being my favorite scene in the movie). While there is definitely an allure in knowing something is going to happen and having to wait for it as then tension builds and builds, it's not as effective when you pretty much know what the outcome is going to be. Lack of character development (spoilers) - This is my biggest complaint about the movie. One of the things I like about Tarantino's movies is how well you feel like you know the characters, even the minor ones. To me that was completely absent from this movie. Even with Shoshanna there is a gap of like 8 years after her family is killed that we learn nothing about. How did she go from orphaned Jew to movie theater owner? The lack of character development is even more evident with the Basterd's. At the end of the movie I couldn't even tell you the names of more then two, we spent so little time with them. The only one I felt a connection to was Stiglitz and unless I'm wrong he was the one we had the most background on, I don't think that's a coincidence. On the flip side, when we DID get character development as in the case of the British film critic, they killed him off a few minutes later. As much negative typing as I did here I did like the movie although I think it's Tarantino's worst (never saw Death proof) but I doubt I would ever watch it again. |
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. That's pretty much how I felt. |
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. You went to a Tarantio film expecting something other than the Tarantino syle? You fail, hard. 
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Quoted: Quoted: What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. You went to a Tarantio film expecting something other than the Tarantino syle? You fail, hard. Yes that was a fail on my point. Made less a hard fail by the part where it was a redbox rental I didn't pay for. I won't make that mistake again. And yes, I watched the whole movie. No I wasn't expecting realism at all, I was fine with that. And the Jew hunter was the same character beginning to end. |
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Quoted: I won't say it was a bad movie but I don't think it was a good Tarantino movie either. Obviously it doesn't have any effect on the quality of the movie but I definitely felt misled by the advertising campaign. There's 5 things I didn't like: The dialog - I actually like subtitles, I turn them on in every movie and video game I watch/play. When people complain about the subtitles I think what they are actually complaining about is the style of dialog they're reading. I love to read but I find it tiresome to read anything written in period language from about the American Revolution and before. I don't think it has anything to do with attention span as much as it does the way people communicate now. Through the increasing use of email and text messaging we try and be concise as possible. If you take 10 minutes or 3 text messages to tell me something you could have adequately conveyed in 5 minutes or 1 message I feel like you wasted my time. I think the same premise is at work here. If the movie took place in modern times I think the verbosity of the movie would have been greatly decreased and less people would have complained about it. Don't get me wrong, the dialog in the movie was (from what I understand) pretty accurate to how people spoke back then and it would have been a worse movie if it was less so. The ending (spoilers) - I didn't expect the movie to be historically accurate but to me there is a huge level of disparity between telling the tale of a fictional unit in WWII and killing Hitler. I think the jump in the level of incongruity is why most people who didn't like the ending found it so jarring. The Basterds (spoilers)- The movie was billed as the exploits of a band of Jewish Nazi hunters. However you could remove them from the movie entirely and the main plot would remain relatively unchanged. Shoshanna would still have burned down the theater killing Hitler and the rest of the Nazis. Predictability - I found all the major plot 'twists' to be fairly predictable, especially the one in the bar (although that doesn't stop it from being my favorite scene in the movie). While there is definitely an allure in knowing something is going to happen and having to wait for it as then tension builds and builds, it's not as effective when you pretty much know what the outcome is going to be. Lack of character development (spoilers) - This is my biggest complaint about the movie. One of the things I like about Tarantino's movies is how well you feel like you know the characters, even the minor ones. To me that was completely absent from this movie. Even with Shoshanna there is a gap of like 8 years after her family is killed that we learn nothing about. How did she go from orphaned Jew to movie theater owner? The lack of character development is even more evident with the Basterd's. At the end of the movie I couldn't even tell you the names of more then two, we spent so little time with them. The only one I felt a connection to was Stiglitz and unless I'm wrong he was the one we had the most background on, I don't think that's a coincidence. On the flip side, when we DID get character development as in the case of the British film critic, they killed him off a few minutes later. As much negative typing as I did here I did like the movie although I think it's Tarantino's worst (never saw Death proof) but I doubt I would ever watch it again. This is a pretty good assessment, although the historical innacuracies REALLY bothered me. Taking liberties to fit your story in, fine, but Tarantino completely exceeded my ability to "suspend my disbelief." |
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Quoted: Please, that had Steve Buscemi. His character hasn't developed since he began his acting career.Quoted: Since when has Tarantino been big on character development? Sometimes overly developed characters get in the way of the PLOT. I loved it. Since Reservoir Dogs? And character development is very important to plot. Which I might add was a facade of being complex and intricately woven and also sucked. |
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And yes, I watched the whole movie. No I wasn't expecting realism at all, I was fine with that. And the Jew hunter was the same character beginning to end. 
Of course he was. He's the bad guy. The majority of bad guys in movies don't evolve or change. I dunno. I don't go in to a Tarantino movie expecting to find out who Rosebud is. I go to Tarantino movies for good dialog (the movie had it), good action (the movie had it), and abnormal characters (the movie had it). This movie delivered on those things. |
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Please, that had Steve Buscemi. His character hasn't developed since he began his acting career.
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Since when has Tarantino been big on character development? Sometimes overly developed characters get in the way of the PLOT. I loved it. Since Reservoir Dogs? And character development is very important to plot. Which I might add was a facade of being complex and intricately woven and also sucked. So one actor dictates whether an entire film had character development? |
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Since when has Tarantino been big on character development? Sometimes overly developed characters get in the way of the PLOT. I loved it. Since Reservoir Dogs? I'll give you Reservoir Dogs... fucking classic movie. Natural Born Killers though, boring. "Let's go get tacos..." |
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Since when has Tarantino been big on character development? Sometimes overly developed characters get in the way of the PLOT. I loved it. Since Reservoir Dogs? I'll give you Reservoir Dogs... fucking classic movie. Natural Born Killers though, boring. "Let's go get tacos..." I liked NBK because it was a fun mindless movie but had a message (that regardless of whether you agree or disagree with it) gives you something to think about if you want to. |
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. Once you said this...I discarded the idea that you had anything credible or intelligent to say about films. Edit: I've not seen IB yet. My comment stands on QT's past films. Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, etc. |
| As I always say, I thought 3/5 of the film was excellent, but 2/5 of it sucked so badly that it just ruined the experience of the other 3/5. And that's coming from someone who likes some of Tarantino's movies. (I very much enjoyed Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, and Jackie Brown, for example) |
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. Once you said this...I discarded the idea that you had anything credible or intelligent to say about films. funny cuz there isn't anything credible or intelligent in his films to begin with!! |
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Quoted: Quoted: What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. Once you said this...I discarded the idea that you had anything credible or intelligent to say about films. A friend of yours is he? |
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And yes, I watched the whole movie. No I wasn't expecting realism at all, I was fine with that. And the Jew hunter was the same character beginning to end.
Of course he was. He's the bad guy. The majority of bad guys in movies don't evolve or change. I dunno. I don't go in to a Tarantino movie expecting to find out who Rosebud is. I go to Tarantino movies for good dialog (the movie had it), good action (the movie had it), and abnormal characters (the movie had it). This movie delivered on those things. This. |
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. If you hate Quentin Tarantino movies, why the hell did you watch a Quentin Tarantino movie, then come here to bitch about it being a typical Quentin Tarantino movie? Fail. Fat loads of steaming fail. |
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What a transparent, trite, goofy piece of shit! There was ZERO character development, I didn't care about a single character. Didn't have time to. That fucktard of a director is so concerned with style and being edgy he couldn't tell a story of the caliber of "See Spot Run". I've never liked a single one of that goat ass distender's films, why the fuck would i start now? For him to have force fed every audience member strips of the film that caused massive rectal bleeding on the way out would have been merciful compared to that film Quentin Tarantino, your film was commensurate with the transformers movie. May you burn in cinematic hell. If you hate Quentin Tarantino movies, why the hell did you watch a Quentin Tarantino movie, then come here to bitch about it being a typical Quentin Tarantino movie? Fail. Fat loads of steaming fail. |
