Mainland China is just communist occupied China.

Yea
.. I'd be curious what a detailed IRS audit comes up on that.  R&D has tax credit value. And before you know it, half of operations are "R&D".

Was it AMD?

This thread had me thinking about some of those key dudes, and I have read something similar - not that they were pushing them out the door (kind of sounds like DEI retardation) but rather they just let those key guys leave by not compensating them like they should.

I'm oversimplifying, but corporate bloat and bad bets, same as most corporate corpses. Look at what happened to RCA.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/rocm.html
and
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/discrete-gpus/arc/edge.html

beg to differ.  

True, but CUDA is way ahead of them.  But I do want to see AMD excel and give them solid competition.

For Intel, dunno if they'll stick with the GPUs, or drop them as they have a bad habit of doing that when they figure out they're not going to be the GPU market leader.

It may have changed but intels interest in GPUs was power efficient onboard processing for laptops and low to moderate demand in desktops.

The silicon to train a model and run a model are two different things. Not sure they are entering that space.

look for Google and Amazon for that.

Amazon spends $70 billion a year on R&D.

Of course, their definition includes every possible expense incurred by Amazon.

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I don't know the reasons Intel has fallen behind in fabrication technology.   I'm sure its complicated and comes down to our braindead decisions to not put market protection in place all those years ago when Asia undercut us on anything and everything in order to grow their economies and industry.

I do know that we should do everything we can to nurture them back to being #1.

Taiwan and TSMC obviously used a militant slave labor force, highly subsidized, highly unregulated, and unfair business by basically undercutting everyone else because it didn't matter to them when they were never going to be allowed to fail no matter how much loss they would never admit to.

Now over the decades they have built up a knowledge base and workflow that Intel will not easily catch.

Our best strategy should be to get American companies to buy from American foundries, even if it means a struggle of being a generation behind.

Because then we can build up the knowledge and workflow and hopefully breakthroughs in technology to become the global leader.

It's clear Taiwan treats TSMC as a strategic treasure that they will not lose by their own actions.  They were never going to allow an American foundry to run smoothly.

Our country needs a serious wake up call and to start playing by the same rules that everyone else plays by.  We need to stop thinking that just throwing money at foreigners will get them to play by the rules we want.   Knowledge is power and any shortfalls we have in it,  we need to work harder and invest in.  Even if there is no immediate satisfaction or profit.  We need to be willing to subsidize industrys that other nations subsidize so that we can fulfill our countrys needs,  even if financially its a loss.  Thats what taxes should be for,  providing the things we need.  We need semiconductors,  and the best ones.  And for security reasons,  we need to make them domestically of our own design.  Period no compromise.

Intel went woke, that's the reason that I took a buyout package.
If you were accused of harassment, you were guilty, took a package rather than risk getting fired because of some Karen.

The one upside to Intel is that their fabs aren’t within range of Chinese MLRS

I saw first hand one of Intel's issues. When they did a layoff, diversity mattered more than knowledge and ability, so they lost a lot of their best workers.