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Posted: 10/15/2022 5:05:45 AM EDT
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 Su-47 early mockup 1983?  Su-47, 2008 |
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Posted: 10/15/2022 4:17:12 PM EDT
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 ?-72?3 ????? ???????? ( more detailed ) |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 7:59:22 AM EDT
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 Robotic platform "Marker" from Roscosmos. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 8:49:12 AM EDT
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   A large amount of rounds for Russian T-62 tanks were captured by the Ukrainian army in Khreshchenivka, #Kherson Oblast. We finally can take a look what ammo these relics were provided with.  The first one we see is a Soviet 3UBM5 115 mm round with a 3BM6 armour-piercing, fin-stabilised, discarding-sabot tracer projectile (made in 1978). Such projectile with an initial speed of 1680 m/s can penetrate ~250mm of armor- for modern warfare it has very modest performance.  Another round seen is a Soviet 3UOF37 with a 3OF27 HE-FRAG projectile (made in 1974). HE-FRAG projectiles are seeing much more use in this war and given the 3kg explosives payload of the 3OF27, comparable to more modern Soviet projectiles of this type, definitely can be useful. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 12:50:30 PM EDT
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  TMM-3m2 bridge deploying vehicle, captured in UA. For reference:     Training in Russia before the war. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 5:19:17 AM EDT
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 Experteninterview: Schwächen sowjetisch/russischer Panzer - Mit Oberst a.D. Wolfgang Schneider Great video about RU tanks, German language, but the subtitles are working. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 9:23:00 AM EDT
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 British Revenge class battleship HMS Royal Sovereign now renamed Arkhangelsk during a lease transfer to the Soviet Union at Scapa Flow naval base in May 1944, escorted arctic convoys until the end of the war and later returned in 1949 and scrapped the same year due to poor condition. Arkhangelsk ran aground in the White Sea in late 1947; the extent of damage, if any, is unknown.[61] The Soviet Navy returned the ship to the Royal Navy on 4 February 1949 after the former Italian battleship Giulio Cesare was transferred to the Soviet Black Sea Fleet.[59] The Soviet Navy had initially sought to avoid sending the ship back, claiming that she was not sufficiently seaworthy to make the voyage back to Britain. After an inspection by a Royal Navy officer, however, the Soviet Navy agreed to return the vessel in January 1949. Upon returning to the Rosyth naval base, Royal Navy personnel thoroughly inspected the ship and found much of her equipment to be unserviceable. It appeared to the inspectors that the main battery turrets had not been rotated while the ship was in Soviet service, and were jammed on the centreline. As a result of her poor condition, she was sold for scrap.[62] The ship arrived at Thos. W. Ward's scrapyard at Inverkeithing, Scotland, on 18 May to be broken up.[61] The elevation mechanisms from her main battery gun turrets were later reused in the 250-foot (76 m) Mark I radio telescope at Jodrell Bank, Cheshire built in 1955–1957.[63] Some sources claim that large parts of the ship were covered in feces.   |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:33:58 PM EDT
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 Declassified photo of Object N, T-34 converted into self propelled launching device for 10X cruise missles (reverse engineered V-1). USSR, 1948. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:47:30 PM EDT
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Didn't know Obama was fighting over there....learn something every day.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/QqCYqGG.jpg Some sources claim that large parts of the ship were covered in feces. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/QqCYqGG.jpg British Revenge class battleship HMS Royal Sovereign now renamed Arkhangelsk during a lease transfer to the Soviet Union at Scapa Flow naval base in May 1944, escorted arctic convoys until the end of the war and later returned in 1949 and scrapped the same year due to poor condition. Arkhangelsk ran aground in the White Sea in late 1947; the extent of damage, if any, is unknown.[61] The Soviet Navy returned the ship to the Royal Navy on 4 February 1949 after the former Italian battleship Giulio Cesare was transferred to the Soviet Black Sea Fleet.[59] The Soviet Navy had initially sought to avoid sending the ship back, claiming that she was not sufficiently seaworthy to make the voyage back to Britain. After an inspection by a Royal Navy officer, however, the Soviet Navy agreed to return the vessel in January 1949. Upon returning to the Rosyth naval base, Royal Navy personnel thoroughly inspected the ship and found much of her equipment to be unserviceable. It appeared to the inspectors that the main battery turrets had not been rotated while the ship was in Soviet service, and were jammed on the centreline. As a result of her poor condition, she was sold for scrap.[62] The ship arrived at Thos. W. Ward's scrapyard at Inverkeithing, Scotland, on 18 May to be broken up.[61] The elevation mechanisms from her main battery gun turrets were later reused in the 250-foot (76 m) Mark I radio telescope at Jodrell Bank, Cheshire built in 1955 1957.[63] Some sources claim that large parts of the ship were covered in feces. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 7:55:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/QqCYqGG.jpg Some sources claim that large parts of the ship were covered in feces. Wow, so further confirmation that the Russians fucking suck at everything, and always have.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 5:55:19 PM EDT
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 Some rotting T-72 |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Wow. Allegedly the Murmanks came back to the USA full of shit between the inner and outer hull. After reading how they behaved in Germany (shitting on the floors) and Ukraine (not using the working toilet, instead breaking a hole into the concrete floor and shitting there) I totally believe this story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Milwaukee_(CL-5) |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:11:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 7:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThose motherfuckers can make some sorcery like that work but can’t figure out a fuckin toilet ETA: although in fairness, it probably wasn't PVT Shitontheflooritov that figured that engine out... |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Allegedly the Murmanks came back to the USA full of shit between the inner and outer hull. After reading how they behaved in Germany (shitting on the floors) and Ukraine (not using the working toilet, instead breaking a hole into the concrete floor and shitting there) I totally believe this story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Milwaukee_(CL-5) The only thing I would mention about breaking holes into the floor in Ukraine is, they may not have had water pressure after the first flush, and some of the footage (like from that school where they stored ammo recently) seems to indicate that they were breaking holes in the floor in order to sleep there (which makes sense for "some" frag/direct fire protection). But yeah, considering the rest of the shit we have seen about how they live in the field, I wouldn't be surprised if they were sleeping AND shitting in holes in the floor. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:34:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thezentree: Those motherfuckers can make some sorcery like that work but can't figure out a fuckin toilet ETA: although in fairness, it probably wasn't PVT Shitontheflooritov that figured that engine out... |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: That design of engine existed long before the Russians did it. Submarines and aircraft used it as early as the 1930s probably goes back further than that. Why hasn't it made its way into cars yet? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Really? I didn't know that. (I don't study engine tech). Why hasn't it made its way into cars yet? I would think that double the rotating mass and friction wouldn't be very efficient. Probably very slow revving as well. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryUkrainian, not Russian. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bratworst: I would think that double the rotating mass and friction wouldn't be very efficient. Probably very slow revving as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bratworst: Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Really? I didn't know that. (I don't study engine tech). Why hasn't it made its way into cars yet? I would think that double the rotating mass and friction wouldn't be very efficient. Probably very slow revving as well. It’s not double, it isn’t spinning camshafts or lifting valves, or using chemical energy to heat the head, it doesn’t need a head gasket, etc. Coming soon for cars, and sooner for the Abrams, via Cummins/Achates. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: That's something I would expect to find in a post apocalypse video game.  Kharn Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Dracster: Russian medic kit https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-09-27_08-01-42_jpg-2541203.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-09-27_08-01-41_jpg-2541205.JPG That's something I would expect to find in a post apocalypse video game. Kharn Thats some fresh spawn shit, not even a single piece of cheese. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thezentree: Those motherfuckers can make some sorcery like that work but can’t figure out a fuckin toilet ETA: although in fairness, it probably wasn't PVT Shitontheflooritov that figured that engine out... It's always been sad to me that the Russians, who have generated some incredible engineering talent, have wasted away all of it on the pursuit of a corrupt political system and ideology for generations. We all would have been much better off if communism had never happened. Imagine Russia, Ukraine and others as part of the greater European diaspora for the better part of the 20th century, untainted by idiotic communism infecting the world. Imagine all the lives not lost under communism. Imagine Nazism never even existing, as it was largely a response to communist infiltration into German society, and wasn't even initially about the evil Joos. Imagine the Korean War or Vietnam never happening. Imagine China not as a totalitarian communist regime. What if all the great minds of the world had been working together towards the pursuit of the advancement of humanity rather than the pursuit of a boot on one's neck. Communism has hampered human development and cooperation for over a century. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:42:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancat: It's always been sad to me that the Russians, who have generated some incredible engineering talent, have wasted away all of it on the pursuit of a corrupt political system and ideology for generations. We all would have been much better off if communism had never happened. Imagine Russia, Ukraine and others as part of the greater European diaspora for the better part of the 20th century, untainted by idiotic communism infecting the world. Imagine all the lives not lost under communism. Imagine Nazism never even existing, as it was largely a response to communist infiltration into German society, and wasn't even initially about the evil Joos. Imagine the Korean War or Vietnam never happening. Imagine China not as a totalitarian communist regime. What if all the great minds of the world had been working together towards the pursuit of the advancement of humanity rather than the pursuit of a boot on one's neck. Communism has hampered human development and cooperation for over a century. I don't think the system has caused the corruption, I think it's our human nature that corrupts any system they live in. Look at what's happening in the U.S. What you (and I) want may not be available to our species. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 9:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: That design of engine existed long before the Russians did it. Submarines and aircraft used it as early as the 1930s probably goes back further than that. Fairbanks-Morse designed an opposing piston engine in the 20s or 30s. they used them in railroad engines and towboat engiens until about 1994. very fuel ineffiecient, dirty, and smokey. Fred Shit I just looked them up and they are still making them! Fred |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 9:35:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BFG197: Fairbanks-Morse designed an opposing piston engine in the 20s or 30s. they used them in railroad engines and towboat engiens until about 1994. very fuel ineffiecient, dirty, and smokey. Fred Shit I just looked them up and they are still making them! Fred Seems like I read a paper about it at some point in the last couple years. ETA: Yep. Achates power and Cummins working on the ACE advanced combat engine. 14 liter 1k hp opposed piston engine. $87 million contract. |
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Posted: 10/22/2022 11:19:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: I don't think the system has caused the corruption, I think it's our human nature that corrupts any system they live in. Look at what's happening in the U.S. What you (and I) want may not be available to our species. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By mancat: It's always been sad to me that the Russians, who have generated some incredible engineering talent, have wasted away all of it on the pursuit of a corrupt political system and ideology for generations. We all would have been much better off if communism had never happened. Imagine Russia, Ukraine and others as part of the greater European diaspora for the better part of the 20th century, untainted by idiotic communism infecting the world. Imagine all the lives not lost under communism. Imagine Nazism never even existing, as it was largely a response to communist infiltration into German society, and wasn't even initially about the evil Joos. Imagine the Korean War or Vietnam never happening. Imagine China not as a totalitarian communist regime. What if all the great minds of the world had been working together towards the pursuit of the advancement of humanity rather than the pursuit of a boot on one's neck. Communism has hampered human development and cooperation for over a century. I don't think the system has caused the corruption, I think it's our human nature that corrupts any system they live in. Look at what's happening in the U.S. What you (and I) want may not be available to our species. Pretty much. |
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Posted: 10/24/2022 4:38:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Ukrainian, not Russian. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Ukrainian, not Russian. The video is from UA, but the engine was used in the (Soviet-)russian T-64 tanks. Therefore it totally belongs in this thread. 
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Posted: 10/24/2022 4:45:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: That design of engine existed long before the Russians did it. Submarines and aircraft used it as early as the 1930s probably goes back further than that. First patented in Germany 1877.  Junkers Jumo 205 Opposed piston Diesel aircraft engine from the early 1930s. |
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Posted: 10/24/2022 6:45:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By turtlemaster: I saw these pics a couple days ago on a scale model forum that I frequent, I haven't seen them here. Captions say these are T-72 tanks using T-55 roadwheels  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/24/2022 8:05:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs that second pic a destroyed Russian tank, a refurbished Russian tank, a captured Russian tank, or a brand new Russian tank? Hard to tell these days
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Posted: 10/25/2022 5:36:36 AM EDT
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 Good size comparison between the Su-30SM (left), Su-35 (right) and the MiG-29 (middle).  SU30 of the Indian Air Force & an American F16 |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:12:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:26:47 PM EDT
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  Mad Max is back.
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:33:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryProbably won’t be long til they are refurbed and sent to Ukraine |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/d1P5cCI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sMcxL4V.jpg SU30 of the Indian Air Force & an American F16 Holy shit I never realized the degree of size disparity in those designs. 
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:57:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: The video is from UA, but the engine was used in the (Soviet-)russian T-64 tanks. Therefore it totally belongs in this thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Ukrainian, not Russian. The video is from UA, but the engine was used in the (Soviet-)russian T-64 tanks. Therefore it totally belongs in this thread. Sure the T-64 is a Soviet design - from the Kharkiv design bureau in Ukraine. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 4:55:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Google Lens isn't coping very well with that stenciled writing; is that some sort of directional mine, or a cratering charge, or do we have any more context? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-10-05_15-13-46_jpg-2551793.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-10-05_15-14-29_jpg-2551794.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-10-05_15-14-32_jpg-2551795.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-10-05_15-14-35_jpg-2551796.JPG Google Lens isn't coping very well with that stenciled writing; is that some sort of directional mine, or a cratering charge, or do we have any more context? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TM-83_mine Anti-tank mine. http://armor.kiev.ua/wiki/index.php?title=%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Tm83_1.jpg note: the image you posted has been horizontally flipped, the text is mirrored. T - 01 80-16-84 TГ - 40 |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 7:09:12 PM EDT
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Ruski gun truck
 Attached FileThis one is captioned as the Armata MBT in theater, I don't know if that is legit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 7:13:24 PM EDT
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https://forums.kitmaker.net/t/modelling-armour-in-ukraine-crisis/17957
the above link has a metric shit ton of pictures, from both sides of this conflict. There are quite a few, the thread started 25 Feb. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 7:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turtlemaster: This one is captioned as the Armata MBT in theater, I don't know if that is legit. Not legit, article from 2021:  |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 7:17:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cyclone]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/WTn1thG.jpg Su-47 early mockup 1983? https://i.imgur.com/IZRTv02.jpg Su-47, 2008 Similar to a certain US mockup from that period |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 7:20:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turtlemaster: https://forums.kitmaker.net/t/modelling-armour-in-ukraine-crisis/17957 the above link has a metric shit ton of pictures, from both sides of this conflict. There are quite a few, the thread started 25 Feb. Military model forums are a veritable goldmine of information. These guys are finding every new detail. Saw a discussion about some new bolts on a plane, crazy shit. |
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Posted: 10/26/2022 3:00:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Military model forums are a veritable goldmine of information. These guys are finding every new detail. Saw a discussion about some new bolts on a plane, crazy shit. So... a cornucopia, a veritable panoply, a mass, a colony, a gaggle, a pack, OF RUSTED BARELY FUNCTIONING ALCOHOLIC DESIGNED MACHINERY?! Looks great to me!
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Posted: 10/26/2022 1:14:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2022 5:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryBosnian Ape Society is the best. 
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Posted: 10/26/2022 5:34:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThey ripped off Fairbanks-Morse |
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Posted: 10/26/2022 5:35:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: It’s not double, it isn’t spinning camshafts or lifting valves, or using chemical energy to heat the head, it doesn’t need a head gasket, etc. Coming soon for cars, and sooner for the Abrams, via Cummins/Achates. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Bratworst: Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Really? I didn't know that. (I don't study engine tech). Why hasn't it made its way into cars yet? I would think that double the rotating mass and friction wouldn't be very efficient. Probably very slow revving as well. It’s not double, it isn’t spinning camshafts or lifting valves, or using chemical energy to heat the head, it doesn’t need a head gasket, etc. Coming soon for cars, and sooner for the Abrams, via Cummins/Achates. Here's an old Periscope film about opposed piston diesels for submarines. It goes into various designs and the power vs size vs efficiency tradeoffs. Tanks and AFVs aren't even the largest potential market - tractor trailers are. Very interesting!  SUBMARINE DIESEL ENGINES WWII U.S. NAVY TRAINING FILM FAIRBANKS MORSE 17984 |
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Posted: 10/26/2022 5:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zaphar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TM-83_mine Anti-tank mine. http://armor.kiev.ua/wiki/index.php?title=%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Tm83_1.jpg note: the image you posted has been horizontally flipped, the text is mirrored. T - 01 80-16-84 TГ - 40 Wow cool, thanks for finding that!
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Posted: 10/26/2022 9:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Holy shit I never realized the degree of size disparity in those designs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/d1P5cCI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sMcxL4V.jpg SU30 of the Indian Air Force & an American F16 Holy shit I never realized the degree of size disparity in those designs. Me either, man the SUs are huge. |
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