[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Into the WIld (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/5/2010 2:52:16 AM EDT
| For some reason Ive never seen this movie but I rented it last night and im sitting down to watch it. Not to bad so far but alot of wtf in this movie. So this dude basically erases who he is to hike across the country and end up in the middle of fuckin nowhere in Alaska? |
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For some reason Ive never seen this movie but I rented it last night and im sitting down to watch it. Not to bad so far but alot of wtf in this movie. So this dude basically erases who he is to hike across the country and end up in the middle of fuckin nowhere in Alaska? Read the book and see or rent this . Guy was Way over his head. http://tifilms.com/wild/call_intro.htm "The Call of the Wild" 2007 film Ron Lamothe Concord, Massachusetts September 2007 |
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How the fuck do you kill a moose with a .22?  Easy. Not sure if serious? To be honest I admire him following his hart. He didnt care about the establishment that his parents set up for him, he followed his hart. Although he died because of not understanding his environment he lived in that short time more than most of us could ever hope to. In some odd way he is my hero, he threw it all away and said fuck it and lived life. |
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness.
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. |
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. I don't think so. The idea that he ate something and got sick is just speculation, there is no proof. More than likely he simply laid down and starved to death. |
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For some reason Ive never seen this movie but I rented it last night and im sitting down to watch it. Not to bad so far but alot of wtf in this movie. So this dude basically erases who he is to hike across the country and end up in the middle of fuckin nowhere in Alaska? Read the book and see or rent this . Guy was Way over his head. http://tifilms.com/wild/call_intro.htm "The Call of the Wild" 2007 film Ron Lamothe Concord, Massachusetts September 2007 This..... The kid starved himself, not poison. Plus a lot of other stupid mistakes. Oh, and the people from Alaska they interview... are pretty typical 
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. No, The University of Alaska Fairbanks did tests on the Wild Potato stuff left behind in the bus. It's not poisonous. They would also VERY much like the Author of the book to update the book and point this out. Aviator http://tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm |
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. I don't think so. The idea that he ate something and got sick is just speculation, there is no proof. More than likely he simply laid down and starved to death. Just going by the movie, never read the book. ETA, didnt know there was so much controversy about the incident. I am going to have to read up. Thanks guys. |
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. No, The University of Alaska Fairbanks did tests on the Wild Potato stuff left behind in the bus. It's not poisonous. They would also VERY much like the Author of the book to update the book and point this out. Aviator http://tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm Thanks, incredibly interesting! |
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Book was better, but the movie wasn't too bad.
Krakauer may have an agenda when he writes his books (cf. Into Thin Air) but he's entertaining. Quoted:
How the fuck do you kill a moose with a .22? Hell, Karamojo Bell killed elephants with a rifle chambered in .218 Bee. If you have the skill to put the bullet into the eye (which was one of Bell's favorite targets) you can put down most near anything. "Any gun will do, if you will do." |
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You know, I think Sean Penn is a damn good actor and I also thought he did a good job producing that movie. I liked the soundtrack. That being said, I can't stand the guy's political stance and I think if I was to ever meet him, I would be able to confirm my belief that he's a douchebag in real life. That being said, I thought it was funny how liberal minds hailed that guy (McCandless) as a hero because he was just following his heart. It is a liberal's dream. Oh and what it dream it was I guess. He paid the price though. That guy was so ill prepared it wasn't funny. Too bad he couldn't hook up with Dick Proenneke. He might still be alive today to tell his side of the story to his grandkids if he did. |
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Why did Vince Vaughns character get busted by the feds? I think he was selling hacked satellite tv boxes. That was back in the days of the big dishes. He was a custom combiner. A John Deere 9600 at that time was probably 120K without a header. The custom combiners I know make obscene money compared to local farmers. So why would you need to sell pirate converter boxes? |
I feel the same way about Chris...while I would not do what he did(I am a caged bird) he flew free and lived a real life...perhaps its better to live brightly and burn up than to live a life of quiet desperation as most of us do. Quoted:
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How the fuck do you kill a moose with a .22? Easy. Not sure if serious? To be honest I admire him following his hart. He didnt care about the establishment that his parents set up for him, he followed his hart. Although he died because of not understanding his environment he lived in that short time more than most of us could ever hope to. In some odd way he is my hero, he threw it all away and said fuck it and lived life. |
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. No, The University of Alaska Fairbanks did tests on the Wild Potato stuff left behind in the bus. It's not poisonous. They would also VERY much like the Author of the book to update the book and point this out. Aviator http://tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm Thanks, incredibly interesting! Very. I fell for the Krakhauer/Penn version.
The truth makes McCandless less irresponsible and thus less exciting as a movie character. I feel worse for him now than ever, especially after reading the SOS note he left. |
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You know, I think Sean Penn is a damn good actor and I also thought he did a good job producing that movie. I liked the soundtrack. That being said, I can't stand the guy's political stance and I think if I was to ever meet him, I would be able to confirm my belief that he's a douchebag in real life. That being said, I thought it was funny how liberal minds hailed that guy (McCandless) as a hero because he was just following his heart. It is a liberal's dream. Oh and what it dream it was I guess. He paid the price though. That guy was so ill prepared it wasn't funny. Too bad he couldn't hook up with Dick Proenneke. He might still be alive today to tell his side of the story to his grandkids if he did. Dick Proenneke would have made a much better story. The kid in the movie did not have a clue and died in a freakin school bus not too far from a road. Not exactly what I would call the "wild". |
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Chris McCandless was not a "wild bird set free" or living life "away from the establishment".
Reading his journal entries, reading Krakauer's book, you'll see that he had some serious mental issues. Delusions of grandeur? check Narcissistic? check Paranoia? check I think he suffered from a psychotic break and made some mind-numblingly stupid decisions that resulted in death. His story is not romantic. This isn't about some ideologue making a trek to find himself, it's about a rich kid who snapped and killed himself. |
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How the fuck do you kill a moose with a .22? Easy. Not sure if serious? To be honest I admire him following his hart. He didnt care about the establishment that his parents set up for him, he followed his hart. Although he died because of not understanding his environment he lived in that short time more than most of us could ever hope to. In some odd way he is my hero, he threw it all away and said fuck it and lived life. He died of starvation because he didn't bring a map. Probably schitzophrenic. READ THE DEBUNK. He had a map and Krakauer omitted this fact, and it seems he did so intentionally. He more than likely had an injury. See also the SOS note left in the bus, which Krakauer also omitted, as did Sean Penn in the movie. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How the fuck do you kill a moose with a .22? Easy. Not sure if serious? To be honest I admire him following his hart. He didnt care about the establishment that his parents set up for him, he followed his hart. Although he died because of not understanding his environment he lived in that short time more than most of us could ever hope to. In some odd way he is my hero, he threw it all away and said fuck it and lived life. He died of starvation because he didn't bring a map. Probably schitzophrenic. READ THE DEBUNK. He had a map and Krakauer omitted this fact, and it seems he did so intentionally. He more than likely had an injury. See also the SOS note left in the bus, which Krakauer also omitted, as did Sean Penn in the movie. Yeah, I was fuzzy on that. He did have a map. He just didn't use it to leave. There was an easier way out not far. |
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I don't know what "hart" he was following but there was something mentally unstable about him. To lay down and die of starvation in Alaska next to a river teaming with fish, surrounded by woods teaming with wildlife are the actions of someone with a mental illness. He died because he ate something he thought was safe, in the end it was not and it killed him. No, The University of Alaska Fairbanks did tests on the Wild Potato stuff left behind in the bus. It's not poisonous. They would also VERY much like the Author of the book to update the book and point this out. Aviator http://tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm I've gotten through most of the article. Good read so far. Thanks for posting. 
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Krakauer may have an agenda when he writes his books (cf. Into Thin Air) but he's entertaining. I never noticed an agenda, but maybe I wasn't paying attention. What agenda did you get out of it? I read both books. Basically he'll tell one side of the story instead of providing a balanced treatment. Think of it like Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine". Moore calls it a documentary but we all know it's not. If you've read "Into Thin Air", you should read Boukreev's rebuttal book "The Climb". Much like some threads in GD, the books devolve into a purse-swinging contest so it's a bit tiring at points. Indeed, the most recent editions of both books contain rebuttals by both authors (and rebuttals to rebuttals in some instances). It reminded me very much of a thread in which TRG and TxLewis are major participants. However, the main take-away that I got from reading both was that Krakauer intentionally left out facts, in order to support his position. |
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Quoted: Someone here did a pretty good post about why he starved. He speculated that it wasn't so much poisoning himself, as it was he hunted so much in the area around him, that there was no more game left. Alaska has the smallest amount of game per square mile than any other state. |
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Krakauer may have an agenda when he writes his books (cf. Into Thin Air) but he's entertaining. I never noticed an agenda, but maybe I wasn't paying attention. What agenda did you get out of it? I read both books. Basically he'll tell one side of the story instead of providing a balanced treatment. Think of it like Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine". Moore calls it a documentary but we all know it's not. If you've read "Into Thin Air", you should read Boukreev's rebuttal book "The Climb". Much like some threads in GD, the books devolve into a purse-swinging contest so it's a bit tiring at points. Indeed, the most recent editions of both books contain rebuttals by both authors (and rebuttals to rebuttals in some instances). It reminded me very much of a thread in which TRG and TxLewis are major participants. However, the main take-away that I got from reading both was that Krakauer intentionally left out facts, in order to support his position. Well, that explains why I missed it. I didn't pay much attention to his analysis. Thanks for the reply though. It's been a while since I've read them and it's about time to read them again. |
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Why did Vince Vaughns character get busted by the feds? I think he was selling hacked satellite tv boxes. That was back in the days of the big dishes. He was a custom combiner. A John Deere 9600 at that time was probably 120K without a header. The custom combiners I know make obscene money compared to local farmers. So why would you need to sell pirate converter boxes? Yes, he got busted for selling Sat TV "Black Boxes". There is reference to it in the movie. One of his other employees is telling Chris he does not know why the owner of the combine business is fooling with those blsck boxes... Aviator |
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Someone here did a pretty good post about why he starved. He speculated that it wasn't so much poisoning himself, as it was he hunted so much in the area around him, that there was no more game left. Alaska has the smallest amount of game per square mile than any other state. There's food out here you just need to know where and how to catch. |
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Someone here did a pretty good post about why he starved. He speculated that it wasn't so much poisoning himself, as it was he hunted so much in the area around him, that there was no more game left. Alaska has the smallest amount of game per square mile than any other state. Due to sheer landmass and almost half of the state being above the artic circle. I would think there were plenty of critters in the area Mccandless was in. |
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I think he died of "rabbit starvation". His diary doesn't indicate a lack of food, he killed plenty of game. Rabbit starvation is from not getting enough fat and sugar, basically an Atkins diet carried to extreme. If you intake only protein, eventually you starve. Either that or he was so close to the edge physically, that a small injury pushed him over the edge to be not able to care for himself.
Read the book, I think he is an interesting character. I think some kind of mental illness was present, I still am not sure if he went to Alaska to die or have a great adventure. |