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11/22/2014 11:07:32 AM EDT
Had a couple of uninvited guests in the hangar this AM. I was waiting outside, cocked and locked when they exited. 911 dispatcher said to not engage. These two walked within 15' of me and a loaded .45 and never saw me. LCSO is still looking for them.  Knowing now what I didn't know then,,,, I would have challenged them.

http://youtu.be/MWhCxkfok28
11/22/2014 11:09:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Wow!  Those two are fortunate but their stupidity will bring them down someday.

11/22/2014 11:11:06 AM EDT
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Who cares what the dispatcher says? You are under no obligation to do what they tell you. Should have proned them out.
11/22/2014 11:12:01 AM EDT
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They might be back op, looks like the one dude may have been filming. Perhaps went back to show someone who knows plane parts what was there?
11/22/2014 11:12:52 AM EDT
[#4]
What the hell were they doing? Was that one idiot filming with his phone?
11/22/2014 11:13:59 AM EDT
[#5]
OP fail. Sorry OP.
11/22/2014 11:14:49 AM EDT
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phone light.

Op should have proned them out for sure. Dispatchers are there to dispatch, not give you orders.
11/22/2014 11:16:55 AM EDT
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Using the flashlight on his phone.

 Fail,,,   Yup.   But,,, I didn't know what I was dealing with until I got the vid and the Sheriffs dept was on the way.
11/22/2014 11:18:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Deadly force is authorized to protect property right?

11/22/2014 11:18:27 AM EDT
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Was the hangar locked?

Tampering with aircraft or their equipment is a FEDERAL felony.

Fed's will typically defer to the locals for enforcement but if your local folks refuse to do anything you should escalate and report to FAA.
11/22/2014 11:20:52 AM EDT
[#10]
One had a beer I think.

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11/22/2014 11:25:54 AM EDT
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Tampering with aircraft or their equipment is a FEDERAL felony.

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Locked? YES!  Still trying to figure out how they got in. I did mention the Federal thing to the locals.   They did bring in the helicopter with FLIR and K9.
  Only thing found was a broken beer bottle down the street in the direction they were moving.
11/22/2014 11:28:22 AM EDT
[#12]
Recording on a cell phone. They are going to come back to get items their guy wants.

Where you at in Lee OP?
11/22/2014 11:28:56 AM EDT
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No....

But presentation of force is in some states...especially when you are out numbered.

And until you fire it is just presentation...
11/22/2014 11:30:01 AM EDT
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This could/should have gone so much worse for them. Now you know don't listen to dispatchers they are not there with you. You had the gun and the rights of the property so challenge all intruders.
11/22/2014 11:31:24 AM EDT
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Aircraft repo operation?
11/22/2014 11:33:55 AM EDT
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They would have seen me.
11/22/2014 11:34:35 AM EDT
[#17]
"get the fuck on the ground or i will fucking kill you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
memorize this
11/22/2014 11:36:47 AM EDT
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The parts are type/brand specific and worthless elswhere.

N Ft Myers
11/22/2014 11:41:31 AM EDT
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No....

But presentation of force is in some states...especially when you are out numbered.

And until you fire it is just presentation...
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No....

But presentation of force is in some states...especially when you are out numbered.

And until you fire it is just presentation...


"Shout, show, shove, shoot shoot shoot" was what I was taught when I went through expeditionary (read as pogue) combat training.
11/22/2014 11:42:10 AM EDT
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How much time does it take to earn the money for the parts, the tools, or god forbid the aircraft? You'd be OK if I locked you up for that amount of time? Theft is the same thing, you are stealing time people have spent to earn that item. No different in my eyes. Sorry if you are on a gun board and feel that having a firearm to protect yourself as you stop people from stealing your earnings is a bad thing.
11/22/2014 11:43:39 AM EDT
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11/22/2014 12:12:42 PM EDT
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The parts are type/brand specific and worthless elswhere.

N Ft Myers
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Where you at in Lee OP?


The parts are type/brand specific and worthless elswhere.

N Ft Myers


Got it, thanks. They may still come back. Stay safe.
11/22/2014 12:22:41 PM EDT
[#23]
do you know if they checked the bottle for any prints?
2nd subject to walk into frame is holding a beer bottle.
11/22/2014 12:25:53 PM EDT
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Looks like he is using the light from his phone as a flashlight. The other is carrying a longneck beer.

They are obviously looking for something to steal just casing the place for now it appears.
11/22/2014 6:57:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Looks like a local new station will air the video as soon as I can obtain a police report!
11/22/2014 7:13:00 PM EDT
[#26]
I can see and understand both sides of the coin.
Would I have wanted to prone them out? Yes.
However, the presence of alcohol could easily mean you're confronting a pair of drunks with impaired judgement, and more balls than brains. If they forced you to shoot, you may well end up the next George Zimmerman. Especially once the media found out a dispatcher told you not to interfere.
Hope they get picked up.