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5/1/2004 12:50:13 PM EDT
What  brand  ya got . We are looking at  these as  an alternative to  wood or Fing ugly ass chain link. Any comments or problems?  PG
5/1/2004 12:53:25 PM EDT
[#1]
They work as long as you spend the time to train the dog and keep the batteries up in the collar.
5/1/2004 12:58:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Yea the system we are looking at come s with 3 months of training for the dogs. The collars take regularly available  batteries [thats the scary part could be $20each ] Thanks 1GR
5/1/2004 1:10:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Forget the three month training schedule. I've put two of these systems in myself. One at my parent's old house and then again when they moved to a new house. Both of my parents dogs took about 10minutes to train, no joke. They have one golden retriever and a welsh corgi. The golden I started out training according to the manual and as soon as I got to the point where you actually put the collar on him and let him get zapped he was terrified and would't go anywhere. He started cowering on the ground. The other dog was a little harder. The lower settings didn't phase her. Once I cranked it up then she was good to go. After getting shocked they were both terrified to go outside with the collars on, but basically I just kept forcing them to go out. At first they just sat on the deck and didn't go anywhere, but gradually they ventured out and learned on their own that the little flags around the yard were where they would get shocked. After about a week I took every other flag out, then another week every other flag again, and then after another week took all of the flags down.

The only thing that you have to take care of after that is replacing the batteries every once in a while. I love the system and wouldn't have it any other way. It's nice to be able to just open the door and let the dogs out without having to mess with a leash or worry about them running around the neighborhood. One thing I noticed about my parents dogs is that the fence teaches them to become a lot more dependant on you. They will follow you everywhere around the yard, where as before they wanted to run off and do their own thing and we were always having to chase them down and get them back into the yard.

The hardest part is putting the fence in. It's well worth it though. Especially because you don't have to put up a physical fence. In my research Radio Fence was the best one.
5/1/2004 1:24:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks Nwb post 223 huh Tgats the one we are looking at .
5/1/2004 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Have had friends with dogs where it did not work.
5/1/2004 1:55:28 PM EDT
[#6]

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Have had friends with dogs where it did not work.



Yep, my mothers neighbor tried it and the dogs ran past it and kept on going, now they have a real fence...
5/1/2004 2:21:09 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Have had friends with dogs where it did not work.



Yep, my mothers neighbor tried it and the dogs ran past it and kept on going, now they have a real fence...


5/1/2004 2:29:38 PM EDT
[#8]
I thought this thread was about invisible sword fighting

Digital
5/1/2004 2:29:48 PM EDT
[#9]
What happens is a smart dog will learn to take a short burst of Electric shock to chase a rabbit or cat, then it will refuse to take the same shock to return to its yard.
5/1/2004 3:31:37 PM EDT
[#10]

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What happens is a smart dog will learn to take a short burst of Electric shock to chase a rabbit or cat, then it will refuse to take the same shock to return to its yard.


hmmm some thing to think about  buuuutttttt they will not be totally unsupervised . This will be part of the total area along with a short REAL fence and shrubs etc.........
5/1/2004 3:34:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Just remember to take their collers off when you load them up to take them to th evet.  My GF took her labs and got a few miles down the road and wondered why they kept yelping.  So being as smart as she is she turns areound and speeds back to the house instead of just taking the collers off.
5/2/2004 4:19:02 AM EDT
[#12]

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Just remember to take their collers off when you load them up to take them to th evet.  My GF took her labs and got a few miles down the road and wondered why they kept yelping.  So being as smart as she is she turns areound and speeds back to the house instead of just taking the collers off.


5/2/2004 4:45:20 AM EDT
[#13]
i had one with 2 dogs. one a smal fat beagle/bassett mix took one time to train her. even with it off she won't cross the line. The other is some kind o mutt small and fast. even on high with the stronger collar it was useless. he is so fast he was into and out of the "zone" before it would ever beep or shock him. Completely useless with him.

the fun part is get your freinds drunk and dare them to put the collar on their ankle. I have had more fun with that

mike
5/2/2004 10:51:27 AM EDT
[#14]
not sure what brand my dad got for our lab (who died of some sort of liver problem, I think cancer, a few months ago but they're bringing a new black lab puppy home today so I have to drive down to see her this week ) but it worked very well. we could let the batteries go dead in her collar and it didn't matter as she stopped testing the boundry very early. the last few years we didn't even make her wear the collar. She loved catching frisbies and if it went over the area where the fence cable was buried she'd sit near it and bark at you since she knew she couldn't go there. worked so well in training her that if you drove her in the car to the other side of the line in the front yard (our front yard is just about 100 yards long and my dad kept the line way back towards the house in front since the purpose was to avoid having the dog hit by a car) and then tried to get her to get out of the car she wouldn't since she recognized it as being on the wrong side

just for fun place the collar in your hand, palm up so only gravity is holding it in place (to allow for faster dropping) and cross the line
5/2/2004 10:54:08 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I thought this thread was about invisible sword fighting

Digital



+1 (although for the record I'm ashamed to be quoting DP. )
5/2/2004 10:56:46 AM EDT
[#16]
I'd just build a big stone wall around the entire property.


5/2/2004 1:02:21 PM EDT
[#17]

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I'd just build a big stone wall around the entire property.




why didnt I think of that  come on over Ill buy the beer