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Link Posted: 2/20/2023 12:36:00 AM EST
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The most disturbing part after some of you peoples threads.

That animal could be any of your ex wives in the wrong place at the right time.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 1:04:57 AM EST
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Given Soviet troops routinely raped Japanese women in Manchuria, I'm not entirely certain that all the rapes in Germany were out of some twisted sense of revenge.
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No, it's something that's part of/wrong with Russian culture, no doubt.  My Ukrainian teacher gave a lot of reasons some months back when we were discussing it, and its latest manifestation in some of the same types of acts carried out in Ukraine recently, on a smaller scale, but the one thing I remember now and stood out to me, was "broken homes".  A quote I don't perfectly remember from Ivan's War, about the common Soviet soldier/civilian's experience in WWII that I remember was "wife beating was as common/Russian as painted eggs."  Nonetheless....there was a special hate that had been built up for the enemies that inundated the Soviet Union from the west, and the Germans above all, that was definitely playing into the atrocities that were carried out there.  

This Russian music video/song is about a woman whose husband is abusive towards here, and she ends up killing him with a knife in the end, and comes to regret it.  It's....a bit disturbing.



and if you really have quite a bit of time on your hands....this video breaks it down really well, what each line in the song means.  I haven't found any videos that give a literal word-for-word translation of things from Russian to English, I wish I could find more like this.  

IC3PEAK - ????-???? (Boo-Hoo) translation & explanation

Link Posted: 2/20/2023 1:12:05 AM EST
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I dated a Dutch girl who looked EXACTLY like Irma.  Scarily so.
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Dutch/Deutsch, the Dutch are just low country Germans.  



There was an American girl of Dutch ancestry at a school I went to, very pretty, but she had quite a few issues.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 1:37:19 AM EST
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Ilse Koch  aka "Bitch of Buchenwald"

Made Lampshades from human skin

Ilse Koch, wife of the commandant of Buchenwald concentration camp, had possessed lampshades made of human skin, and had had tattooed prisoners killed, specifically, in order to use their skin for this purpose.

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Some human remains at Buchenwald, including a lampshade allegedly made of human skin

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https://i2-prod.ok.co.uk/incoming/article23480793.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Ilse-Koch.jpg



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This has been widely debunked for years.. There's plenty of real stuff to talk about,  please fact check instead of repeating propaganda.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 2:09:07 AM EST
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When you look into the "careers" of most all of the leadership of the nazi camps, you'll see a repeating pattern of people being selected for positions closer and closer to the camps, then higher within them,  because of their sociopathic abilities to either conduct cruelty and atrocities without emotion,  or to even enjoy it.

Many people have the impression that the death and labor camps simply came about in their final state,  but there was much,  much effort over years to both find people able to carry them out,  to find ways to more inexpensively and "effectively" run them, and to find ways to reduce the number of Germans needed to run them,  because you only have so many people sufficiently awful and sociopathic to make them happen.  It was no accident that people like this were in charge of the camps.
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Sadistic Holocaust camp guard so evil she was nicknamed the 'Hyena of Auschwitz'




When you look into the "careers" of most all of the leadership of the nazi camps, you'll see a repeating pattern of people being selected for positions closer and closer to the camps, then higher within them,  because of their sociopathic abilities to either conduct cruelty and atrocities without emotion,  or to even enjoy it.

Many people have the impression that the death and labor camps simply came about in their final state,  but there was much,  much effort over years to both find people able to carry them out,  to find ways to more inexpensively and "effectively" run them, and to find ways to reduce the number of Germans needed to run them,  because you only have so many people sufficiently awful and sociopathic to make them happen.  It was no accident that people like this were in charge of the camps.

This.

When regular army soldiers were forced and told to kill defenseless Jews and undesirables most of them did not have to stomach for it and refused to do it. The Nazis knew that this would turn into a big problem.  The regular army soldiers that would and did not mind the killing where moved  to the units that did the killing.

There where some SS that would not kill the Jews and they were stripped of their rank put into prison for a while and then most of them were sent to fight the Russians.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 2:14:20 AM EST
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This.

When regular army soldiers were forced and told to kill defenseless Jews and undesirables most of them did not have to stomach for it and refused to do it. The Nazis knew that this would turn into a big problem.  The regular army soldiers that would and did not mind the killing where moved  to the units that did the killing.

There where some SS that would not kill the Jews and they were stripped of their rank put into prison for a while and then most of them were sent to fight the Russians.
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The mobile death vans were instituted after a bunch of soldiers started having mental breakdowns from their constant use as killing the “undesirables”.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 2:18:45 AM EST
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I’m just confused by all the articles referring to her as “the beautiful beast” and referencing how she was a “stunning” example of the SS ideal woman.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/27/16/23937000-7934613-image-a-9_1580144091363.jpg

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She is the origin of the phrase "Any port in a Nazi Death Camp."
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 2:21:31 AM EST
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This has been widely debunked for years.. There's plenty of real stuff to talk about,  please fact check instead of repeating propaganda.
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You should go over to wiki and update her page then if it's all BS.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 4:33:37 AM EST
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Maria Mandl "The Beast" and others.

The amount of crimes and hate perpetrated due to propaganda and sociopathy just boggles the mind. Just reading the firsthand accounts of her (and others) brutality it's hard to really fathom it for most people.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 5:31:53 AM EST
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As I recall, Mark Felton mentions in this video that the Germans would sometimes sexually abuse female Soviet prisoners before killing them.  The Red Army did the same as they entered Europe, of course there was the mass rape, but some Red Army soldiers would rape a woman, then kill her.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsjJ5AAKGP0

Sex can be a weapon, and not just in the sense of being something that can be used to entice people, it can also be much worse, in the sense of using it as humiliation, a way to show power over others, or an outlet for outright hatred.  Many of the Red Army soldiers marching into Germany hated the German women, because they viewed them as the women that had birthed the men that had destroyed their country and killed so many of their friends/relatives, so they raped the German women en mass out of revenge.  You can fuck someone out of hatred rather than love, and of course they derived sexual pleasure from it, to put things in extremely blunt terms.
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Soviet prisoners in Afghanistan were frequently raped. One was apparently raped so often it broke his mind. We gave him asylum in the US as an example of a Soviet conscript fighting against his will in Afghanistan, and then he molested a kid.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 5:51:44 AM EST
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These stories should be told in highschool.
Evil isn't always something a world away...it can grow inside the heart of anyone willing to allow it.
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Evil doesn't typically grow in a vacuum. Sounds like she had a fucked up childhood like most serial killers.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 6:04:31 AM EST
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Also nickname the Beautiful Beast? I don't find her physically attractive at all

Hambeast with saggy boobs more like it...so she stepped on the trap door and said the word schnell. Guess she was looking forward with great anticipation of going to her holding place in Hell.

Very depraved mind she had.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 7:44:57 AM EST
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Burned off his dick while still alive.
In 1995 my friend Ant, was robbed, and had his dick burned off with a blow torch, and he was alive while his dick was burned off, and while they tortured him more, until he gave them the combo to his safe. Then, they beat him to death with a lead pipe and put a large dog food bag over his head so they wouldn't get messy!!! Did the same to his girlfriend, but she lived somehow, and they poisoned his pit bulls.

I bring this up only to let you know that crazy torturous things happen to people today, and there are some crazy mean and sadistic people out there and they are doing shit to people, unthinkable things to them, right now, somewhere. Protect yourselves always. as shit is going downhill fast and picking up speed every day.

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Geez. Did they ever catch the perps ?
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 9:03:02 AM EST
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Remember, the first step is to dehumanize your victims, kind of like how the Democrats treat their political foes.  There are huge similarities between how the NAZI propagandist portrayed Jews in the early years and how the left portrays conservatism today.

Hate mongering is not dead.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 9:05:40 AM EST
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Remember, the first step is to dehumanize your victims, kind of like how the Democrats treat their political foes.  There are huge similarities between how the NAZI propagandist portrayed Jews in the early years and how the left portrays conservatism today.

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I've noticed
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:04:16 AM EST
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Which, for me, raises a very disturbing fact, that such people weren't entirely responsible for their actions.  She was 9 when the Reichstag fire happened and the Nazis really started consolidating control, she lived a good deal of her young life getting her head filled with Nazi propaganda about the lesser races and the superiority of the Germans.
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Very much so-her age group particularly so since young people are very malleable to corrupted ideology at that age.


Which, for me, raises a very disturbing fact, that such people weren't entirely responsible for their actions.  She was 9 when the Reichstag fire happened and the Nazis really started consolidating control, she lived a good deal of her young life getting her head filled with Nazi propaganda about the lesser races and the superiority of the Germans.



She came up in the German school system. The same one that fired/ expelled all of the Jewish teachers and professors (and Catholic teachers in public schools IIRC). The Catholic schools were pretty much dissolved. Any religious influence was abolished in the teaching atmosphere (concessions made by the Catholic Church with the Enabling Act) as was any teacher deemed politically unreliable. The Law Against Overcrowding of German Schools pretty much prevented Jews, Poles and Slavs (as well as others) from getting into public schools. Then the Nuremberg Laws. Education of the will rather than the brain. Concerned with loyalty, obedience, and service to the state. To instill group cohesion and preach political indoctrination. Discipline and physical fitness (paramilitary training). Racial purity and racial superiority. Myth building. Teaching them to be ruthless in good conscience.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:06:47 AM EST
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The most disturbing part after some of you peoples threads.

That animal could be any of your ex wives in the wrong place at the right time.
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Human nature tends to exploit when given the privilege to do it. Especially be government sanction.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:10:54 AM EST
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Evil doesn't typically grow in a vacuum. Sounds like she had a fucked up childhood like most serial killers.
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These stories should be told in highschool.
Evil isn't always something a world away...it can grow inside the heart of anyone willing to allow it.
Evil doesn't typically grow in a vacuum. Sounds like she had a fucked up childhood like most serial killers.



National Socialist education system. Promotion of certain social and cultural mores. Surveillance society. Success of the Nazi war machine early on reinforced the mythologies.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:16:20 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:33:44 AM EST
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She came up in the German school system. The same one that fired/ expelled all of the Jewish teachers and professors (and Catholic teachers in public schools IIRC). The Catholic schools were pretty much dissolved. Any religious influence was abolished in the teaching atmosphere (concessions made by the Catholic Church with the Enabling Act) as was any teacher deemed politically unreliable. The Law Against Overcrowding of German Schools pretty much prevented Jews, Poles and Slavs (as well as others) from getting into public schools. Then the Nuremberg Laws. Education of the will rather than the brain. Concerned with loyalty, obedience, and service to the state. To instill group cohesion and preach political indoctrination. Discipline and physical fitness (paramilitary training). Racial purity and racial superiority. Myth building. Teaching them to be ruthless in good conscience.
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And it worked, because propaganda so often works and is effective, but no one really has a monopoly on it.  





The Russian poster says "we will throw the kulak (richer Russian peasants) out of the collective farm"

This is a good, but very long book.  It delves into Hitler's influences, the things that shaped his thinking, really the roots of the holocaust.  He was influenced by thinkers of the 19th and early 20th centuries such as the English Houston Steward Chamberlain and French Artuhur de Gobineau, who wrote a book on the inequality of human races.  

Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:36:07 AM EST
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there was a lot of that going around in WW2.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:50:32 AM EST
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And it worked, because propaganda so often works and is effective, but no one really has a monopoly on it.  

https://i.ibb.co/JzYKJ7r/800px-Anti-Japan2.png

https://i.ibb.co/NSZwRY8/keep-kulaks-out-of-collective-farms-1930.jpg

The Russian poster says "we will throw the kulak (richer Russian peasants) out of the collective farm"

This is a good, but very long book.  It delves into Hitler's influences, the things that shaped his thinking, really the roots of the holocaust.  He was influenced by thinkers of the 19th and early 20th centuries such as the English Houston Steward Chamberlain and French Artuhur de Gobineau, who wrote a book on the inequality of human races.  

https://i.ibb.co/PN2NNpm/Pic-1.jpg
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She came up in the German school system. The same one that fired/ expelled all of the Jewish teachers and professors (and Catholic teachers in public schools IIRC). The Catholic schools were pretty much dissolved. Any religious influence was abolished in the teaching atmosphere (concessions made by the Catholic Church with the Enabling Act) as was any teacher deemed politically unreliable. The Law Against Overcrowding of German Schools pretty much prevented Jews, Poles and Slavs (as well as others) from getting into public schools. Then the Nuremberg Laws. Education of the will rather than the brain. Concerned with loyalty, obedience, and service to the state. To instill group cohesion and preach political indoctrination. Discipline and physical fitness (paramilitary training). Racial purity and racial superiority. Myth building. Teaching them to be ruthless in good conscience.


And it worked, because propaganda so often works and is effective, but no one really has a monopoly on it.  

https://i.ibb.co/JzYKJ7r/800px-Anti-Japan2.png

https://i.ibb.co/NSZwRY8/keep-kulaks-out-of-collective-farms-1930.jpg

The Russian poster says "we will throw the kulak (richer Russian peasants) out of the collective farm"

This is a good, but very long book.  It delves into Hitler's influences, the things that shaped his thinking, really the roots of the holocaust.  He was influenced by thinkers of the 19th and early 20th centuries such as the English Houston Steward Chamberlain and French Artuhur de Gobineau, who wrote a book on the inequality of human races.  

https://i.ibb.co/PN2NNpm/Pic-1.jpg







Read it. It's excellent. The Evans Trilogy is an excellent supplemental to it. It fills out Shirer's book well. But that's about 2600 pgs vs ~1300 for Shirer's.

Would recommend the Black Book of Communism too. Synder's book Bloodlands.

ETA: My bad. Shirer's is almost 1300 pgs.
The black Book of Communism is 858 pages.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 11:52:39 AM EST
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In some pictures she looks like Dollar Store Elizabeth Moss. In others she looks like a bag of mashed up assholes.. Not sure which is is which at this (Pierre) point.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 12:19:10 PM EST
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I'm just confused by all the articles referring to her as "the beautiful beast" and referencing how she was a "stunning" example of the SS ideal woman.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/27/16/23937000-7934613-image-a-9_1580144091363.jpg

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The Ernst Rohm Ideal Nazi Woman. As manly as possible.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 12:27:13 PM EST
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Psychopaths are sometimes very politically successful.
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Don’t think, even for a moment, that there are not others just like her in political movements right now.



Psychopaths are sometimes very politically successful.


Power & manipulation are the primary aspects of politics. Fits like a glove.
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 1:50:19 PM EST
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The Ernst Rohm Ideal Nazi Woman. As manly as possible.
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I'm just confused by all the articles referring to her as "the beautiful beast" and referencing how she was a "stunning" example of the SS ideal woman.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/27/16/23937000-7934613-image-a-9_1580144091363.jpg

The Ernst Rohm Ideal Nazi Woman. As manly as possible.

wasn't he into dudes?
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 4:27:41 PM EST
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This has more details on just how brutal she was.

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Evil
Link Posted: 2/20/2023 4:41:49 PM EST
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As I recall, Mark Felton mentions in this video that the Germans would sometimes sexually abuse female Soviet prisoners before killing them.  The Red Army did the same as they entered Europe, of course there was the mass rape, but some Red Army soldiers would rape a woman, then kill her.  


Sex can be a weapon, and not just in the sense of being something that can be used to entice people, it can also be much worse, in the sense of using it as humiliation, a way to show power over others, or an outlet for outright hatred.  Many of the Red Army soldiers marching into Germany hated the German women, because they viewed them as the women that had birthed the men that had destroyed their country and killed so many of their friends/relatives, so they raped the German women en mass out of revenge.  You can fuck someone out of hatred rather than love, and of course they derived sexual pleasure from it, to put things in extremely blunt terms.
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Bill Ayers, Obama's mentor, forced a girl he had dated to have sex with his black friend when he was in collage. She later recalled that it was "angry sex", and he acted as if he hated her. So such things still exist and can happen here.
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Yes, which is why he preferred his broads as manly as possible.

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Bill Ayers, Obama's mentor, forced a girl he had dated to have sex with his black friend when he was in collage. She later recalled that it was "angry sex", and he acted as if he hated her. So such things still exist and can happen here.
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Bill Ayers is a sick self hating white that should be tied to a post and lit on fire, he'll probably die in peace, because there often is no justice in the universe.
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This.

When regular army soldiers were forced and told to kill defenseless Jews and undesirables most of them did not have to stomach for it and refused to do it. The Nazis knew that this would turn into a big problem.  
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Sadistic Holocaust camp guard so evil she was nicknamed the 'Hyena of Auschwitz'




When you look into the "careers" of most all of the leadership of the nazi camps, you'll see a repeating pattern of people being selected for positions closer and closer to the camps, then higher within them,  because of their sociopathic abilities to either conduct cruelty and atrocities without emotion,  or to even enjoy it.

Many people have the impression that the death and labor camps simply came about in their final state,  but there was much,  much effort over years to both find people able to carry them out,  to find ways to more inexpensively and "effectively" run them, and to find ways to reduce the number of Germans needed to run them,  because you only have so many people sufficiently awful and sociopathic to make them happen.  It was no accident that people like this were in charge of the camps.

This.

When regular army soldiers were forced and told to kill defenseless Jews and undesirables most of them did not have to stomach for it and refused to do it. The Nazis knew that this would turn into a big problem.  


Going even further, when the rank-and-file military DID slaughter a village (on orders) very early on, the German army recognized right away that it mentally and emotionally destroyed them, and their ability to continue on as soldiers.  From that point on, they made a concerted effort to find ways to effectuate the slaughter while exposing the least number of their own people to it, because they wanted their soldiers able to fight.
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