Is Sig going to quietly drop the P320? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/18/2026 2:44:06 PM EDT
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I don't think truly can with the amount of LE and Mil contracts they have. at least not for a while. if this rumor of P385 is true, i could see them basically phasing it out of commercial sales with the justification of "we are focusing manufacturing capacity on this product line" |
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Originally Posted By Northcountry06: It seems like dropping the P320 would be an extraordinarily awkard thing to do, what with the military just purchasing nearly 500,000 of them. I don't think that look very good at all. That is the only reason it stays in production. Without contracts, it would disappear from the catalog and be forgotten or occasionally remembered as that weird gun that looked like a P250. |
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Originally Posted By CheemsK1500: Sig fan bois conveniently forget that Series 80 and Swartz safety 1911s have existed for a very long time. A properly fitted, properly carried 1911 in condition one is not going to go off unless something breaks. Now, start fucking with sear angles and firing pin and spring weights and you can change that easily. The 320 is more like a cat or a woman with PMS, it goes off if you look at it funny. |
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| Everyone talking about the P320 unintentional discharge issue and I've been grossed out by it's incredibly high bore axis from the very beginning. Seriously, it's 2026. How is the industry not past this? High bore axis guns should be something we remember from the 90's. |
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Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Everyone talking about the P320 unintentional discharge issue and I've been grossed out by it's incredibly high bore axis from the very beginning. Seriously, it's 2026. How is the industry not past this? High bore axis guns should be something we remember from the 90's. |
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Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Everyone talking about the P320 unintentional discharge issue and I've been grossed out by it's incredibly high bore axis from the very beginning. Seriously, it's 2026. How is the industry not past this? High bore axis guns should be something we remember from the 90's. Well thats what happens when you stuff a striker system into a slide designed around a hammer. |
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Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Everyone talking about the P320 unintentional discharge issue and I've been grossed out by it's incredibly high bore axis from the very beginning. Seriously, it's 2026. How is the industry not past this? High bore axis guns should be something we remember from the 90's. They kept the P226 around, despite that. I feel dirty comparing it in any way to the P320, but that high bore axis... |
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Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Everyone talking about the P320 unintentional discharge issue and I've been grossed out by it's incredibly high bore axis from the very beginning. Seriously, it's 2026. How is the industry not past this? High bore axis guns should be something we remember from the 90's. Both problems exist because Sig retrofitted a DAO hammer gun as cheaply as possible instead of building a striker gun from the ground up. |
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Originally Posted By JaredGrey: I bet that's a Fuse with an inline comp. Slim, tall frame. Magwell matches. Larger flashlight matches up with the length of an extended Fuse. Slide extends past the front sight. This seems close. There's a big version of the teaser on Sig's homepage if you're on PC. Aside from the comp and the mag well, there are two details that stand out to me. It looks like there's texturing higher up the frame than existing P365 models. This is a positive trend that's growing elsewhere in the industry. The trigger shoe doesn't look like one of the existing ones, at least in this distorted image. It's neither the original hooked trigger nor the flat X trigger. |
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Originally Posted By anesvick: It's just a shitty design. They took the 250 and threw a half-baked striker fired design in the molds and sent it, then paid off the government to make it the military's next pistol like Beretta did in the 80s. When I first saw one, I was sure it was a 250 with some kind of aftermarket retrofit. Even the slide plate looks like a mod rather than a redesign. |
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Originally Posted By Spartan16: 320 is loud when it's dropped. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: Well thats what happens when you stuff a striker system into a slide designed around a hammer. Originally Posted By LV1976: Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Everyone talking about the P320 unintentional discharge issue and I've been grossed out by it's incredibly high bore axis from the very beginning. Seriously, it's 2026. How is the industry not past this? High bore axis guns should be something we remember from the 90's. Well thats what happens when you stuff a striker system into a slide designed around a hammer. Yeah, that seems like MBA decision making rather than pure engineering judgment. There's nothing wrong with parts compatibility, but the P320 seems like a uniquely weird design for a modern striker fired gun without the context of it being a descendant of the P250. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: That doesn’t work. The magazines are too wide for the fcg Originally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By XeroSygnal: Seen something about a "P385"..... P365 FCG in a P320 sized frame using P320 magazines. That doesn’t work. The magazines are too wide for the fcg He said FCG (fire control group-- eg trigger components) not FCU (fire control unit-- ie serialized insert assembly). They could probably reuse most of the parts from the FCG in a new FCU. |
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Originally Posted By anesvick: You aren't going to get a Series 70 to go off unless it's in condition two and it happens to drop right on the hammer. A properly fitted, properly carried 1911 in condition one is not going to go off unless something breaks. Now, start fucking with sear angles and firing pin and spring weights and you can change that easily. The 320 is more like a cat or a woman with PMS, it goes off if you look at it funny. You mean, dropping a GI 1911 on it’s nose, not it’s hammer - the uncommanded discharges happen because the firing pin was heavier than the firing pin spring’s weight. Springfield had (has?) California-certified 1911s because they use titanium firing pins; very light, light enough so they won’t overpower the firing pin spring during the drop test. And, Series 70 Colts distinctly means the Accurizer barrel and collet bushing for Colt. Those, and larger sights, were really the only appreciable changes between the standard GI 1911A1 and the “Series 70” as Colt marketed it when they started selling them. Sorry, but people calling standard GI fire control groups “Series 70” drives me fucking nuts. Series 70 denoted a barrel/bushing, not a fire control group. Especially when people refer to shit that isn’t even a Colt as “Series 70”. It’s like calling every revolver a Python, or every polymer gun a Glock 40. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: This seems close. There's a big version of the teaser on Sig's homepage if you're on PC. Aside from the comp and the mag well, there are two details that stand out to me. It looks like there's texturing higher up the frame than existing P365 models. This is a positive trend that's growing elsewhere in the industry. The trigger shoe doesn't look like one of the existing ones, at least in this distorted image. It's neither the original hooked trigger nor the flat X trigger. Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By JaredGrey: I bet that's a Fuse with an inline comp. Slim, tall frame. Magwell matches. Larger flashlight matches up with the length of an extended Fuse. Slide extends past the front sight. This seems close. There's a big version of the teaser on Sig's homepage if you're on PC. Aside from the comp and the mag well, there are two details that stand out to me. It looks like there's texturing higher up the frame than existing P365 models. This is a positive trend that's growing elsewhere in the industry. The trigger shoe doesn't look like one of the existing ones, at least in this distorted image. It's neither the original hooked trigger nor the flat X trigger. I think you too are more or less correct-- it looks like a flared magwell comped fuse. As far the trigger goes, I'm thinking that's likely a combination of the angle and the image distorting filters for their "no spoilers" but hype generation display. If we're correct, this will be much less cool than a P385. 
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Originally Posted By XeroSygnal: Seen something about a "P385"..... P365 FCG in a P320 sized frame using P320 magazines. See, the problem with that would be that the trigger would still suck. Every 365 I've held has the same mushy trigger with no wall, including the two I own 
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Originally Posted By Bourbonator: See, the problem with that would be that the trigger would still suck. Every 365 I've held has the same mushy trigger with no wall, including the two I own Agreed. I went down the P365 route. You can get the trigger to be "good", but not great. No matter what you do, the trigger is going to wear in and turn to mush. Same thing happens with Glocks, you just have to accept it's "good enough" and learn to use it. My biggest issue with the P365, particularly using the Macro in a duty pistol role was it has a LOT of parts crammed into a small space. When I'd shoot the gun all day, perform reloads, drop mags in dirt, re-load them, drop them again, etc.. there's just no places for all the sand to go. The action got gritty and it started choking. I get that it's primarily a CCW gun but I had 3 pistols, about 20-30 magazines, and wasnt able to treat it the same way I've treated Glock 19's for the past 20 years. The modular frame concept seems cool, except I never changed grips. I never changed slides. If I wanted a different sized pistol I'd just buy one, not reconfigure the same gun back and forth all the time. I went back to the G43X and just don't have any issues with dirt and sand affecting reliability. It runs like a G19 does. |
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