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4/3/2009 9:08:05 PM EDT
Just as the title says.  Yes or No?

Discuss.
4/3/2009 9:08:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Well it sure as fuck isn't a vegetable.
4/3/2009 9:09:02 PM EDT
[#2]
I never understood why some people don't consider it meat.  What's the deal with that?
4/3/2009 9:09:41 PM EDT
[#3]
animal flesh = meat
4/3/2009 9:09:58 PM EDT
[#4]
It's not. Hell, I don't even consider poultry to be meat.

Meat comes from mamals.
4/3/2009 9:10:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Can you make hamburger from ground fish?

4/3/2009 9:10:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Does it bleed?

It's meat.
4/3/2009 9:10:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I never understood why some people don't consider it meat.  What's the deal with that?


Religion
4/3/2009 9:10:53 PM EDT
[#8]
yes! and its GOOD!
4/3/2009 9:11:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Can you make hamburger from ground fish?


like a salmon patty?

not quite a hamburger, but a fishburger
4/3/2009 9:11:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Can you make hamburger from ground fish?


Yes, salmon burger.

4/3/2009 9:12:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I never understood why some people don't consider it meat.  What's the deal with that?


Religion


Duh.  Well that was pretty stupid of me.  I guess I knew that but I didn't ever think it through.
4/3/2009 9:13:04 PM EDT
[#12]
if it comes from an animal its meat.

4/3/2009 9:13:43 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


Well it sure as fuck isn't a vegetable.
That was what I was going to post so I'll just quote.





 
4/3/2009 9:13:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I never understood why some people don't consider it meat.  What's the deal with that?


I don't know about anyone else, but I was raised Catholic, and it was tradition not to eat meat on Fridays. Fish was acceptable to eat, so I don't consider it meat.

Technically I guess it is since it comes from an animal though...
4/3/2009 9:15:37 PM EDT
[#15]
I was raised catholic and still knew fish was meat.
4/3/2009 9:15:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Because I am Catholic I don't consider it meat.  I just consider it delicious.  Well except for salmon.
4/3/2009 9:16:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Yes... its dead animal.
4/3/2009 9:16:42 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I never understood why some people don't consider it meat.  What's the deal with that?


I don't know about anyone else, but I was raised Catholic, and it was tradition not to eat meat on Fridays. Fish was acceptable to eat, so I don't consider it meat.

Technically I guess it is since it comes from an animal though...


I am a Catholic and I don't eat meat on Fridays.  I usually stick to fish and cheese pizza on fridays.
4/3/2009 9:18:03 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I never understood why some people don't consider it meat.  What's the deal with that?


I don't know about anyone else, but I was raised Catholic, and it was tradition not to eat meat on Fridays. Fish was acceptable to eat, so I don't consider it meat.

Technically I guess it is since it comes from an animal though...


+1

Great topic for a friday during lent.
4/3/2009 9:18:25 PM EDT
[#20]
I consider all edible animal flesh to be "meat".

However, "meat" could have a different meaning if you defined these three categories:
Meat
Poultry
Fish/Seafood

In this case, meat would only be the edible flesh of mammalian animals. This definition could be useful, for example, if the regulatory bodies for each of the three above categories were distinctly separate (i.e., if the raising, slaughtering, processing, and sale of red meat vs poultry vs seafood were regulated entirely separately).
4/3/2009 9:22:47 PM EDT
[#21]
Wow ... That is way to much thinking for me on a Friday ...........   Pass me the Meat.
4/3/2009 9:27:45 PM EDT
[#22]
It aint fuckin meat
4/3/2009 9:28:19 PM EDT
[#23]
It is the flesh of a dead animal, what do you think?
4/3/2009 9:28:45 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
It aint fuckin meat


please explain how the innards of an animal aren't meat
4/3/2009 9:28:49 PM EDT
[#25]


Fish, sure, it's meat.



I believe technically they are sea kittens, and the ducks that I blow out of the sky are probably going to be flying kittens this year sometime.

4/3/2009 9:29:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Food!

4/3/2009 9:31:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
It aint fuckin meat


please explain how the innards of an animal aren't meat


Please explain how a fish is an animal.
4/3/2009 9:32:28 PM EDT
[#28]
I consider it meat, but during Lent I eat it on Fridays because the Catholic Church allows it.

I don't get "vegetarians" that eat fish and other seafood. Not people who just don't like meat, but people who do it in the name of "animal-friendliness." I don't think such a lifestyle can be half-assed. You either eat meat, or you don't.
4/3/2009 9:32:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Yup, it be from an animal so it be meat.

I was also raised a Catholic and the term "no meat during Holy Week" only really applied to meat that came from land critters.
4/3/2009 9:33:16 PM EDT
[#30]
It doesn't matter one way or the other, cuz I'm eatin' it all the same. call it what you want. I call it meat. And tasty.
4/3/2009 9:33:33 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Can you make hamburger from ground fish?


I have salmon burgers in my freezer.
4/3/2009 9:35:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Some dumb-ass responses.  WTF?  Fish flesh is f-ing meat!  What else would it be?
4/3/2009 9:38:40 PM EDT
[#33]
Not during Lent
4/3/2009 9:43:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Some dumb-ass responses.  WTF?  Fish flesh is f-ing meat!  What else would it be?


Certain definitions of meat pertain only to the flesh from mammals as opposed to fish and poultry.

That said, I personally think that if it comes from an animal, it's meat as we know it.
4/3/2009 9:45:14 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm catholic and thought that fish being allowed on fridays was retarded

if it was from an animal it is meat even invertebrates

if it has a brain and is mobile it is meat
4/3/2009 9:49:41 PM EDT
[#36]
I think some of the confusion is that during Lent one shouldn't eat meat on Fridays. However - fish is allowed. This is why you see that McDonalds commerical with the singing fish on all the time. I do have to say - they are tasty.

Anyway - its not really that you are not supposed to eat meat per se. Its that you give up luxurious or rich food. Meat used to be rather expensive. Fish, however, was relatively cheap and so not considered a luxurious or rich food. Lent is when you should fast and/or give up some of your luxuries as a tribute to Christ.
4/3/2009 9:56:27 PM EDT
[#37]
It's meat.





4/3/2009 10:02:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It aint fuckin meat


please explain how the innards of an animal aren't meat


Please explain how a fish is an animal.


1.  A multicellular organism of the kingdom Animalia, differing from plants in certain typical characteristics such as capacity for locomotion, nonphotosynthetic metabolism, pronounced response to stimuli, restricted growth, and fixed bodily structure.

Fish are in the Animalia kingdom. Just sayin.  

But I still classify meat as from a mammal.
4/3/2009 10:04:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Mmmm........think i will go get a fillet of fish right now!
4/3/2009 10:05:43 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It aint fuckin meat


please explain how the innards of an animal aren't meat


Please explain how a fish is an animal.


To get right down to it, they have collagen. At least, that's the most basic differentiation I was taught. You can get into other things like heterophagy, lack of a cell wall, the fact that they're eukaryotes, motility in at least one life stage, etc.
4/3/2009 10:15:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I'm catholic and thought that fish being allowed on fridays was retarded

if it was from an animal it is meat even invertebrates

if it has a brain and is mobile it is meat


So if you tie Nancy Pelosi to a post, she's not meat.
4/3/2009 10:41:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Main Entry: meat  
Pronunciation: \ˈmēt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English mete, from Old English; akin to Old High German maz food
Date: before 12th century
1 a: food ; especially : solid food as distinguished from drink b: the edible part of something as distinguished from its covering (as a husk or shell)
2: animal tissue considered esp. as food: a: flesh 2b ; also : flesh of a mammal as opposed to fowl or fish b: flesh 1a ; specifically : flesh of domesticated animals
3archaic : 1meal 1 ; especially : dinner
4 a: the core of something : heart b: pith 2b <a novel with meat>
5: favorite pursuit or interest
— meat·ed  \ˈmē-təd\ adjective



It can be either depending on how you want to define it.
4/3/2009 11:02:00 PM EDT
[#43]
Fish = Fish
Mammal  = Meat
Bird = Poultry

It's all animal flesh.
4/3/2009 11:04:05 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
if it comes from an animal its meat.



4/3/2009 11:09:47 PM EDT
[#45]
This has to be up there with one of the most retarded fucking questions ever asked on ARFCOM.

I mean right up there alongside "Can you make hamburger out of ground beef"?

The stupidity......Look at all those dumb fucks that said "No" in the poll.  I bet they are all creationists, too.
4/3/2009 11:11:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
This has to be up there with one of the most retarded fucking questions ever asked on ARFCOM.

I mean right up there alongside "Can you make hamburger out of ground beef"?

The stupidity......Look at all those dumb fucks that said "No" in the poll.  I bet they are all creationists, too.


yup

They disagree with me, therefore, they are stupid.
4/3/2009 11:23:03 PM EDT
[#47]
mmm...

I'm not catholic, but I had me some nice flounder tonight.  Big ole slab of corn bread and some peas and carrots, too.
4/3/2009 11:23:07 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
This has to be up there with one of the most retarded fucking questions ever asked on ARFCOM.

I mean right up there alongside "Can you make hamburger out of ground beef"?

The stupidity......Look at all those dumb fucks that said "No" in the poll.  I bet they are all creationists, too.


Going by actual definitions you are the one who is wrong... Not like I care because it really doesn't matter....
4/3/2009 11:29:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Main Entry: meat  
Pronunciation: \ˈmēt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English mete, from Old English; akin to Old High German maz food
Date: before 12th century
1 a: food ; especially : solid food as distinguished from drink b: the edible part of something as distinguished from its covering (as a husk or shell)
2: animal tissue considered esp. as food: a: flesh 2b ; also : flesh of a mammal as opposed to fowl or fish b: flesh 1a ; specifically : flesh of domesticated animals
3archaic : 1meal 1 ; especially : dinner
4 a: the core of something : heart b: pith 2b <a novel with meat>
5: favorite pursuit or interest
— meat·ed  \ˈmē-təd\ adjective



It can be either depending on how you want to define it.

Why Fish is Meat:

Well, if fish isn't meat, then exactly what is it? Is it a PLANT? Because it doesn't seem to be a plant to me. And it isn't a kind of fungus, or mushroom, or lichen, or bacteria, or any of that sort of stuff. No. It is an animal. Fish is an animal. Now, read if you will the definition of animal...

Animal: 1. A sentient living organism typically capable of voluntary motion and sensation: distinguished from plant.

Now, that certainly includes fish, doesn't it. Now, with that fact in mind, read the definition of meat...

Meat: 1. The flesh of animals used as food, esp. the flesh of mammals as opposed to fish or fowl. 2. The edible part of anything. 3. Anything eaten for nourishment, as in meat and drink.

Okay. Well, except for the part of it that says "esp. the flesh of mammals as opposed to fish or foul," (see below) that pretty much sums it up. Fish is meat, yessiree. It fits definitions 2 and 3 perfectly.

Now about number 1. That part was forced into the dictionary by a group of people I have come to call "The Fish/Meat Conspirators." They are trying to confuse the entire world by telling us that fish is fish. Well beef is beef. But beef is still meat, isn't it??? I don't think there is really much purpose to what they are doing. I think that they just got bored one day and said to themselves, let's start a conspiracy. So they did. They phoned every single dictionary in the world and made them do 2 things by threatening to invent a lot of new words to make the people who work there actually have to do something. That's how the word "Antidisestablishmentarianism" came about. But all these new words eventually got to be too much of a hassle, so they changed the definitions of "meat" and "fish".

So that is why it says "esp. the flesh of mammals as opposed to fish or foul". But it says "esp." which means especially. It doesn't say that fish and foul aren't included. It just means that it is ESPECIALLY the flesh of a mammal. It does NOT say ONLY the flesh of mammals. Get my point here? The makers of the dictionary were nice enough to leave that little clause in. Say thank you to the makers of your dictionary. (BTW, there are also Foul/Meat Conspirators, which explains the foul part in case you were wondering.

Link

4/3/2009 11:42:26 PM EDT
[#50]
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if it comes from an animal its meat.



muscle tissue from animals counts.  Not sure some of those other sources or products count.  Like kidneys or glands or shit.  Shit comes from animals.
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