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5/7/2008 6:34:09 PM EDT
Will she bow out or will she pull the nomination out of her ass?
5/7/2008 6:34:58 PM EDT
[#1]
in befo da pole




edit.  Dammit, you got it in.  Hilldog's ego is way too big to bow out unless she knows there's no way she gets it. She's gonna fight tooth and nail, and I wanna see denver burn..



5/7/2008 6:36:16 PM EDT
[#2]
I wouldn't underestimate her or her dirtiness.
5/7/2008 6:37:41 PM EDT
[#3]
I hope not.  The longer she is in the race the worse it gets for the Dims.  They are cut throat.  Then you have McCain who won't criticize.  Man step up and take your pair back.  
5/7/2008 6:39:58 PM EDT
[#4]
NO.

Stop listening to the wishful thinking of LameStreamMedia pundits.  They all love Obama.

Hillary isn't going anywhere before the convention, other than to smokey backrooms where she will reveal to undecided superdelegates all those "candid" pictures that were in their FBI files....
5/7/2008 6:41:16 PM EDT
[#5]
Obama will win


If you don't vote for him you don't have the "Audacity for hope and change."

Max
5/7/2008 6:45:29 PM EDT
[#6]
I think she'll somehow get the nod.
5/7/2008 6:46:59 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I think she'll somehow get the nod.


+1
5/7/2008 6:47:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Damn this is confusing. The thread ask one thing and then the poll ask the opposite. Can I change my answer?
5/7/2008 6:50:13 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I wouldn't underestimate her or her dirtiness.


She's going to "nuke" Barack Hussein Obama

(nuclear option i.e. scorched earth)


* Sidebar : I was just wondering what havoc she would wreak on those in her own party who opposed her or came out early and endorsed Barack Hussein Obama should she pull it off?
5/7/2008 6:51:42 PM EDT
[#10]
She has won all of the most populous states in primaries. CA, NY, TX, MA, OH, MI, FL and PA. If I were a Democrat Super Delegate then I would surmise that Hillary and not Obama has the best chance of pulling in the big electoral states that are necessary to win the election. Most of the states that Obama has won (NC, MS, GA, AL, SC, ID, KS, MO, etc.) are small electoral states that are not going to go for the Democrats in the general election. If I were a Democrat that is the way I would be looking at it.

On top of that, Obama has more baggage than American Tourister with all of this racial shit, he has no solid platforms and he isn't towing the line about an immediate withdraw from Iraq. If I were a Democrat then I would be watching him and saying that John McCain is going to eat him alive in the general election.

The fact is that I think John McCain can cream either of them. Either one will polarize the Republican base and McCain has more sanity which will draw the middle. He also cannot be labeled as another George W. Bush because unlike Bush, McCain wants to close the prison at GTMO, has a solid plan for winning the war in Iraq and is probably the most qualified person since George Washington to serve as Commander in Chief. If the right can put away the bullshit petty ass garbage then we can walk away from this election with a pro-gun, small government conservative that will win the war!
5/7/2008 6:54:52 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
She has won all of the most populous states in primaries. CA, NY, TX, MA, OH, MI, FL and PA. If I were a Democrat Super Delegate then I would surmise that Hillary and not Obama has the best chance of pulling in the big electoral states that are necessary to win the election. Most of the states that Obama has won (NC, MS, GA, AL, SC, ID, KS, MO, etc.) are small electoral states that are not going to go for the Democrats in the general election. If I were a Democrat that is the way I would be looking at it.

On top of that, Obama has more baggage than American Tourister with all of this racial shit, he has no solid platforms and he isn't towing the line about an immediate withdraw from Iraq. If I were a Democrat then I would be watching him and saying that John McCain is going to eat him alive in the general election.

The fact is that I think John McCain can cream either of them. Either one will polarize the Republican base and McCain has more sanity which will draw the middle. He also cannot be labeled as another George W. Bush because unlike Bush, McCain wants to close the prison at GTMO, has a solid plan for winning the war in Iraq and is probably the most qualified person since George Washington to serve as Commander in Chief. If the right can put away the bullshit petty ass garbage then we can walk away from this election with a pro-gun, small government conservative that will win the war!


Small government conservative?  BAAHHHHHH! Well, he will make La Raza happy.
5/7/2008 7:02:25 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
She has won all of the most populous states in primaries. CA, NY, TX, MA, OH, MI, FL and PA. If I were a Democrat Super Delegate then I would surmise that Hillary and not Obama has the best chance of pulling in the big electoral states that are necessary to win the election. Most of the states that Obama has won (NC, MS, GA, AL, SC, ID, KS, MO, etc.) are small electoral states that are not going to go for the Democrats in the general election. If I were a Democrat that is the way I would be looking at it.

On top of that, Obama has more baggage than American Tourister with all of this racial shit, he has no solid platforms and he isn't towing the line about an immediate withdraw from Iraq. If I were a Democrat then I would be watching him and saying that John McCain is going to eat him alive in the general election.

The fact is that I think John McCain can cream either of them. Either one will polarize the Republican base and McCain has more sanity which will draw the middle. He also cannot be labeled as another George W. Bush because unlike Bush, McCain wants to close the prison at GTMO, has a solid plan for winning the war in Iraq and is probably the most qualified person since George Washington to serve as Commander in Chief. If the right can put away the bullshit petty ass garbage then we can walk away from this election with a pro-gun, small government conservative that will win the war!


Small government conservative?  BAAHHHHHH! Well, he will make La Raza happy.


John McCain supports tax cuts accompanied by spending cuts. If that isn't a small government conservative then I sure as hell don't know what is.
5/7/2008 7:08:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes.

1) Hillary will buy super delegates to get the nomination.

2) Hillary will threaten super delegates to get the nomination.

3) Hillary will change the rules (she is on the rules commitee in the Democrat Party) to get the nomination.

4) Hillary will have Obama suicided if she doesn't get the nomination.

5) Hillary is Hillary.
5/7/2008 7:14:33 PM EDT
[#14]
I put up a thread earlier today asking if Hillary had a plan, and one of the first responses involved getting Michigan and Florida's delegates counted in her favor.  That could do it.  I dunno, I just think she's got something in mind.
5/7/2008 7:17:08 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Yes.

1) Hillary will buy super delegates to get the nomination.

2) Hillary will threaten super delegates to get the nomination.

3) Hillary will change the rules (she is on the rules commitee in the Democrat Party) to get the nomination.

4) Hillary will have Obama suicided if she doesn't get the nomination.

5) Hillary is Hillary.


Excellent post.
5/7/2008 7:47:18 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I put up a thread earlier today asking if Hillary had a plan, and one of the first responses involved getting Michigan and Florida's delegates counted in her favor.  That could do it.  I dunno, I just think she's got something in mind.


Michigan is hard since his name wasn't on the ballot but there is a state election coming up  there before the Demo convention. There would be minimal cost to recast the vote for the Presidential election on those ballots. Obama naturally is going to fight either of the Michigan or Florida votes because it creates a disadvantage for him.

All in all I think it is pretty obvious that the Democratic Party as a whole wants Obama in there instead of Hillary. A lot of people in the Clinton camp in the past have jumped over to the Obama camp. She's not going out quietly tho, ain't gonna let the dream die. Hillary and Bill feel some type of entitlement where the Democratic Party is concerned and they will pull the big guns out before the convention to sway votes and influence people in my opinion ( at least I'm hoping). All the makings for a serious cluster-fuck.
5/7/2008 7:59:12 PM EDT
[#17]
I think that Hillary will start blowing the superdelegates any day
now
5/7/2008 8:01:31 PM EDT
[#18]
I hope she doesn't quit. This has the makings of high comedy, come Denver.
5/7/2008 8:04:37 PM EDT
[#19]
No. Remember the old Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote cartoons, where Wiley is trying to hold onto the edge of a cliff by diggin in his fingernails, even though he's losing inch by inch?
5/7/2008 8:05:14 PM EDT
[#20]
She's within stealing distance.
5/7/2008 8:16:35 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I think that Hillary will start blowing the superdelegates any day
now



I always heard that she swung the other way.
5/10/2008 1:52:36 AM EDT
[#22]
Foxnews.com is reporting that BHO has narrowed the superdelegate count and that a nomination is unlikely for HC since the remaining delegates will probably fall in line with thos pledged.  Still, she refuses to give up.  her audacity is amazing and it is amusing because I am sure she will have a meltdown when she doesnt get the nomination.  I would love to be a fly on the wall when BHO gets it!  I bet she will be a royl bitch on wheels to even be in the same room with anoyne..
5/10/2008 2:02:49 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
She has won all of the most populous states in primaries. CA, NY, TX, MA, OH, MI, FL and PA. If I were a Democrat Super Delegate then I would surmise that Hillary and not Obama has the best chance of pulling in the big electoral states that are necessary to win the election. Most of the states that Obama has won (NC, MS, GA, AL, SC, ID, KS, MO, etc.) are small electoral states that are not going to go for the Democrats in the general election. If I were a Democrat that is the way I would be looking at it.

On top of that, Obama has more baggage than American Tourister with all of this racial shit, he has no solid platforms and he isn't towing the line about an immediate withdraw from Iraq. If I were a Democrat then I would be watching him and saying that John McCain is going to eat him alive in the general election.

The fact is that I think John McCain can cream either of them. Either one will polarize the Republican base and McCain has more sanity which will draw the middle. He also cannot be labeled as another George W. Bush because unlike Bush, McCain wants to close the prison at GTMO, has a solid plan for winning the war in Iraq and is probably the most qualified person since George Washington to serve as Commander in Chief. If the right can put away the bullshit petty ass garbage then we can walk away from this election with a pro-gun, small government conservative that will win the war!


Small government conservative?  BAAHHHHHH! Well, he will make La Raza happy.


John McCain supports tax cuts accompanied by spending cuts. If that isn't a small government conservative then I sure as hell don't know what is.


 McCain's voting record for the last 20 years should prove that he's anything but "small government" or "conservative". He's marginally better then the socialist Dems - but he's no friend of a limited government which sticks to the Constitution. He's been progun most of the time. Other then that - his politics have been more liberal then anything. Ask his buddies Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry, and Swinestein.

Hillary may get the nomination - it's hard to tell since Obama is the media's darling. Both are socialist pigs imho. McCain isn't far behind - he's just not a marxist nutjob like Obama or as socialist as Hitlery.
5/10/2008 2:06:46 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yes.

1) Hillary will buy super delegates to get the nomination.

2) Hillary will threaten super delegates to get the nomination.

3) Hillary will change the rules (she is on the rules commitee in the Democrat Party) to get the nomination.

4) Hillary will have Obama suicided if she doesn't get the nomination.

5) Hillary is Hillary.


Excellent post.


Pretty much what I was thinking..
5/10/2008 2:14:15 AM EDT
[#25]
Will she ever bow out? NO
Will she get the nomination? NO
Will things get really nasty? YES
5/10/2008 2:28:20 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think that Hillary will start blowing the superdelegates any day
now



I always heard that she swung the other way.


Which just goes to show you she will do anything, no matter how distasteful (to her), to become President.
5/10/2008 5:14:33 AM EDT
[#27]
It ain't gonna be over until she sings in Denver.


This WILL come down to a floor fight in Denver.  A multiple ballot floor fight with democrat/socilist/commie blood letting on the floor of the convention.

Party rules don't mean shit to that party.  LAWS and the CONSTITUTION don't mean shit to that party.  

Even life (of others) itself cannot stand in the way of the seathing power hungry ambition of Hillary.  People are gonna die before this is over.
5/10/2008 5:31:29 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
NO.

Stop listening to the wishful thinking of LameStreamMedia pundits.  They all love Obama.

Hillary isn't going anywhere before the convention, other than to smokey backrooms where she will reveal to undecided superdelegates all those "candid" pictures that were in their FBI files....



yeah boy
5/10/2008 5:31:41 AM EDT
[#29]
Hey, it is a win, win.  I she gets the nod, then the Obama Nation will tear up the country.  If B.O. gets the nod, the Clinton's will tear the Democrat Party.
5/10/2008 5:32:59 AM EDT
[#30]
Yes she will get the nomintation...




...after something "Vince Foster-ish" happens to Obama. The blacks will riot in the streets in a manner not seen since the Rodney King riots.
5/10/2008 5:51:57 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Yes she will get the nomintation...




...after something "Vince Foster-ish" happens to Obama. The blacks will riot in the streets in a manner not seen since the Rodney King riots.


Obama is half white, and his father's side never experienced any legacy of American slavery,  so the "Burn, baby, burn!" stuff won't quite play.
5/10/2008 6:00:13 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think she'll somehow get the nod.


+1


Please. PLEASE be right! If Hillary "steals" the election, that would be sooooo sweet. The Obama sheep will hate her so much they will NEVER support her.

5/10/2008 6:05:03 AM EDT
[#33]
Clintons are sneaky.  The only way to finish one is a tactical nuke... and that might not be enough.
5/10/2008 6:13:59 AM EDT
[#34]
It's over but I hope she keeps in it all the way to the convention.


I do find it funny the party of the people has these so called super delegates who can vote against the wishes of the majority of the voters.
5/10/2008 6:32:04 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
It's over but I hope she keeps in it all the way to the convention.


I do find it funny the party of the people has these so called super delegates who can vote against the wishes of the majority of the voters.



CANNOT be over for Hitlery.  The campaign owes The Clinton about $11M and the campaign is ANOTHER $10M in debt.  The Clinton gotta cut a deal with Obama to leave but get the money paid.

This morning, according to Slate's Hitlery Death Watch, its' chances of winning are still 2.1%.



5sub
5/10/2008 6:34:09 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:



I do find it funny the party of the people has these so called super delegates who can vote against the wishes of the majority of the voters.


I've heard 14+ versions of why the Dim ones have these rules.  The rules may go back to Jesse Jackson's failed presidential bid and his bitching as to why he lost.  

NOT sure though.



5sub
5/10/2008 6:43:45 AM EDT
[#37]
She knows she can't win this time but the trick is to hurt BHO so bad he loses in 08 so that she can get the rebound shot in 2012.  If BHO wins this time she has to lay up possibly until 2016, at which point she'll be 68 years old and 16 years out of the White House, and she'll have to run against BHO"s VP
5/10/2008 6:54:58 AM EDT
[#38]
They will put a stake through Hilliary's heart at the Denver convention.

I'm betting Soros will pay off any super's so that he can get a controllable stooge in the White House.

There is nothing controllable about the Clintons.
5/10/2008 7:16:48 AM EDT
[#39]

I voted no, Hillary will not get the nomination.


The media is convincing the weak minded liberal sheep that Obama is their savior.

It fucking blows my mind a rookie/socialist/gun-grabbing/member of a white people hating church/Senator from Illinois has got any traction at all in this country. Sad to see so many following this fool who blabs about "hope & change".
5/10/2008 7:18:58 AM EDT
[#40]

She was finished back in February.

5/10/2008 7:20:34 AM EDT
[#41]

She can still win this with Superdelegates. You go bitch!
5/10/2008 9:33:44 AM EDT
[#42]
She might have something tricky to pull out of her snuke yet
5/10/2008 9:36:04 AM EDT
[#43]
She was done after Super Tues.

She is trying to sink osama obama so she can try again in 012.
5/10/2008 6:48:52 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
She was finished back in February.



Yep



5sub
5/10/2008 6:50:12 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
She can still win this with Superdelegates. You go bitch!


As of yesterday, she still had a 2.1% chance of winning.



5sub
5/10/2008 6:54:41 PM EDT
[#46]
You asshole, you worded the thread with the opposite question of the poll!