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12/22/2008 12:03:19 AM EDT
The European liberals see Israel as an oppressive apartheid state.

Europe is filling up with Muslims who don't like Israel.

The influx of 3rd worlders into this country seem to be apathetic, or at best ignorant of the holocaust and Israel.

Christianity appears to be on the downswing in America with liberalism and political correctness taking its place, along with apathy/anger towards Israel (i.e. the bulldozer chick).

The way we are over-stretched now, economic problems looming, social security, national debt, military cutbacks, possible dollar collapse and so forth... will we still be able to protect them in the coming decades? Would India or Russia protect them?

They are a tiny country completely surrounded by enemies and terrorists.

Personally I can't see Israel lasting more than 50 years longer.

What are your bets?
12/22/2008 12:07:37 AM EDT
[#1]
They have a few nuclear warheads that say they are planning on staying around.
12/22/2008 12:07:59 AM EDT
[#2]
I bet they're not. It says something about the future of Israel in Revelations. However, before they are rescued, all nations will be gathering together to fight them.
12/22/2008 12:08:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Read revelations in the Bible, especially where it talks about the battle of Armagedon.
12/22/2008 12:16:59 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm not comfortable with the idea that just about all the principles involved in any future Israel has are basing their decisions on prophecy of one sort or another.

If anything is going to cause a real global shitstorm, it's the certain knowledge of the outcome.

Sooner or later TSWHTF and the Israelis won't go quietly.

They are a nuclear superpower, in a really terrible strategic position.
12/22/2008 12:28:52 AM EDT
[#5]
I heard they have as much as 100 nukes but how many billion Muslims are there? Pakistan has nukes and Iran wants them. I don't know what Russia or China would do. I can imagine the muslims taking over India some day and getting hold of their nukes.
12/22/2008 12:29:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
They have a few nuclear warheads that say they are planning on staying around.


Yea, they have at least 200 reasons that say they will be sticking around. Of course if they don't, every Arab capital and a few religious sites will reach the temperature of the sun very quickly. At least last time I heard their "unstated policy".
12/22/2008 12:48:11 AM EDT
[#7]
We'll need some SPF 5,000 to go along with the popcorn once this starts
12/22/2008 12:57:54 AM EDT
[#8]
Samson Defense
12/22/2008 1:02:24 AM EDT
[#9]
I still think it's going to happen this month.
12/22/2008 3:36:51 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Read revelations in the Bible, especially where it talks about the battle of Armagedon.


Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?
12/22/2008 3:44:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Read revelations in the Bible, especially where it talks about the battle of Armagedon.


Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?


I am not a biblical scholar, so I am not sure, but I don't recall reading that portion.

Could you quote those parts, I surely missed it.
12/22/2008 3:47:43 AM EDT
[#12]
I prefer to use Nostradamus as my vision of the future as opposed to some book thats been written and rewritten by hundreds of people. Occasionally though I just use bones and dice. I figure its just as accurate.
12/22/2008 3:50:44 AM EDT
[#13]
Israel will be OK. They are Gods chosen people. The Bible says God will bless those who bless them, and curse those who curse them. I hope we stay allies with them.
12/22/2008 4:06:03 AM EDT
[#14]
God says they are not doomed.
12/22/2008 4:10:54 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I prefer to use Nostradamus as my vision of the future as opposed to some book thats been written and rewritten by hundreds of people. Occasionally though I just use bones and dice. I figure its just as accurate.


Well, obviously you need to practice the ancient and noble art of haruspication if you want the REAL scoop, but Nostradamus and Bible Eschatology are also pretty darned accurate, as is the Magic 8-Ball.

Sorry Israel, I asked the Magic 8-Ball 'Is Israel doomed?':



12/22/2008 4:22:12 AM EDT
[#16]
Israel is doomed for the exact same reason than Europe is doomed according to many of you...
––-> Demography.

Some differences:
_They are only 7 millions.
_ 20% of them are arabs.
_Their neighbors are not quite as friendly than let's say Monaco or Luxembourg.
_ Their army is mainly US-funded.

12/22/2008 4:49:20 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Israel will be OK. They are Gods chosen people. The Bible says God will bless those who bless them, and curse those who curse them. I hope we stay allies with them.


THIS! Read the end of The Book!

Jesus and his army return to take care of the situation! Talk about Super Man
12/22/2008 4:59:45 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
The European liberals see Israel as an oppressive apartheid state.

Europe is filling up with Muslims who don't like Israel.

The influx of 3rd worlders into this country seem to be apathetic, or at best ignorant of the holocaust and Israel.

Christianity appears to be on the downswing in America with liberalism and political correctness taking its place, along with apathy/anger towards Israel (i.e. the bulldozer chick).

The way we are over-stretched now, economic problems looming, social security, national debt, military cutbacks, possible dollar collapse and so forth... will we still be able to protect them in the coming decades? Would India or Russia protect them?

They are a tiny country completely surrounded by enemies and terrorists.

Personally I can't see Israel lasting more than 50 years longer.

What are your bets?



They're at their best when their back is to the wall.

Don't count em' out just yet.
12/22/2008 5:17:11 AM EDT
[#19]
Another Israel thread that totally misses the real threat to Israel…


No outside agency will 'end' Israel…

Israel will end itself,


http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=2181

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=97470
12/22/2008 5:18:31 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Israel will be OK. They are Gods chosen people. The Bible says God will bless those who bless them, and curse those who curse them. I hope we stay allies with them.


THIS! Read the end of The Book!

Jesus and his army return to take care of the situation! Talk about Super Man


+1
12/22/2008 5:20:53 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Another Israel thread that totally misses the real threat to Israel…


No outside agency will 'end' Israel…

Israel will end itself,


http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=2181

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=97470



Thats the wrong Book
12/22/2008 5:21:03 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Another Israel thread that totally misses the real threat to Israel…


No outside agency will 'end' Israel…

Israel will end itself,


http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=2181

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=97470




Pffft. Arfcom has figured out Israel's fate, and it has nothing to do with your mumbo-jumbo 'science'.

12/22/2008 5:34:56 AM EDT
[#23]
Their lower birth-rate, compared to their Arab neighbors, will ultimately be their undoing, not any military or political attack.
12/22/2008 5:41:28 AM EDT
[#24]
I wish they would pack their shit and move to South Texas. Hell we got ranches bigger than Isreal. I think they would make good neighbors and be a great border buffer next to Mexico.

Wonder what a Bagel with Habanero sauce tastes like?
12/22/2008 5:43:56 AM EDT
[#25]
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Their lower birth-rate, compared to their Arab neighbors, will ultimately be their undoing, not any military or political attack.


That being said, I think we arfcommers have a duty to go over there and procreate with some of their IDF hotties!
12/22/2008 5:49:35 AM EDT
[#26]
If demographics is destiny, then Israel has no future as a Jewish Democracy.

It will have to choose one or the other eventually.


Best solution is probably a two-state compromise with the Palestinians, but it will by no means be easy, and no one can have everything they want.

Religious prophesy voodoo needs to be kept as far from real-life politics as humanly possible.
12/22/2008 5:52:01 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Their lower birth-rate, compared to their Arab neighbors, will ultimately be their undoing, not any military or political attack.


That being said, I think we arfcommers have a duty to go over there and procreate with some of their IDF hotties!


The kids would be Jewish, so it's a win-win situation

I for one stand behind all American Israel-related whackjobbery that is neither
A) antisemitic or
B) based on insane and patronizing ideas of aiding Israel so that God will come back sooner and destroy the world and make all the Jews into Christians.
12/22/2008 5:54:23 AM EDT
[#28]
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Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?


You FAIL at sarcasm and your pathetic attempt to make the bible look like a farce.

There is no such thing as "cavemen."


12/22/2008 6:04:44 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?


You FAIL at sarcasm and your pathetic attempt to make the bible look like a farce.

There is no such thing as "cavemen."




WTF?

12/22/2008 6:08:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?


You FAIL at sarcasm and your pathetic attempt to make the bible look like a farce.

There is no such thing as "cavemen."




Correct, after the biblical magicians lived past a hundred and fifty or so years old, they got so tired of living in caves that they finally figured out how to build mud huts and shacks, and became mud-hut shackmen tricentenarian magicians.

The dinosaurs often chased them back into the caves, we are told, but nevertheless it would be unfair to call 274 year old men who by all rights owned nice mud huts "cavemen."


12/22/2008 6:12:26 AM EDT
[#31]
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I bet they're not. It says something about the future of Israel in Revelations. However, before they are rescued, all nations will be gathering together to fight them.


For the battle in the Megiddo Mountains...........also known as Armageddon
12/22/2008 6:16:19 AM EDT
[#32]
I doubt Israel will last as long as the crusader control of the area did...
12/22/2008 6:17:35 AM EDT
[#33]
The dry bones prophecy of Ezekiel 37 regarding the rebirth of Israel has already occurred in 1948.  

The coming Gog and Magog war of Ezekiel 38 and 39 is next.  Israel will be attacked by the russians and her arab neighbors who will be utterly destroyed by the hand of God.  

God will soon be reminding the world of exactly who is really in charge.
12/22/2008 6:18:31 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?


You FAIL at sarcasm and your pathetic attempt to make the bible look like a farce.

There is no such thing as "cavemen."




12/22/2008 6:32:01 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Read revelations in the Bible, especially where it talks about the battle of Armagedon.


Yes, Israel is doomed.
12/22/2008 6:52:32 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?


You FAIL at sarcasm and your pathetic attempt to make the bible look like a farce.

There is no such thing as "cavemen."




Correct, after the biblical magicians lived past a hundred and fifty or so years old, they got so tired of living in caves that they finally figured out how to build mud huts and shacks, and became mud-hut shackmen tricentenarian magicians.

The dinosaurs often chased them back into the caves, we are told, but nevertheless it would be unfair to call 274 year old men who by all rights owned nice mud huts "cavemen."




12/22/2008 6:57:00 AM EDT
[#37]
If they fix their liberalism problem they'll be fine.
12/22/2008 11:17:40 AM EDT
[#38]
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If they fix their liberalism problem they'll be fine.


Israel is a socialist state… it's basic principle is liberal socialism. Some 25% of Israel economy is state owned and the rest has to operate under strict guidelines.
12/22/2008 11:25:46 AM EDT
[#39]
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Israel will be OK. They are Gods chosen people. The Bible says God will bless those who bless them, and curse those who curse them. I hope we stay allies with them.


THIS! Read the end of The Book!

Jesus and his army return to take care of the situation! Talk about Super Man


+1


This.  

Israel will be just fine no matter what the doubters think.

12/22/2008 11:29:34 AM EDT
[#40]
Israel is not doomed. Not by a long shot.

They're in a tough place is all.
12/22/2008 11:30:42 AM EDT
[#41]
Maybe we should let Israel do its thing for once?  Let them go on the offensive and sit back and encourage them instead of trying to negotiate peace and paying off all sides.
12/22/2008 11:30:50 AM EDT
[#42]
Don't know about Israel but Mecca better watch out. Catch them at prayer time (which ever one, can't keep them straight) with their asses pointing west and give them an atomic enema.
12/22/2008 11:45:41 AM EDT
[#43]
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Don't know about Israel but Mecca better watch out. Catch them at prayer time (which ever one, can't keep them straight) with their asses pointing west and give them an atomic enema.


I would not be surprised in the least to see Mecca get slagged if Israel really did start to go down.
12/22/2008 11:46:58 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Israel will be OK. They are Gods chosen people. The Bible says God will bless those who bless them, and curse those who curse them. I hope we stay allies with them.


THIS! Read the end of The Book!

Jesus and his army return to take care of the situation! Talk about Super Man


+1


This.  

Israel will be just fine no matter what the doubters think.






They got a money back guarantee on that promise?
12/22/2008 11:49:28 AM EDT
[#45]
I went into this thread thinking it had a Poll !
12/22/2008 11:52:11 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Read revelations in the Bible, especially where it talks about the battle of Armagedon.


Is that before or after the dinosaurs chased the cavemen less than 6000 years ago?



Bring ice wise guy
12/22/2008 11:54:27 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:

They got a money back guarantee on that promise?


Don't need one.
12/22/2008 11:58:46 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:

They got a money back guarantee on that promise?


Don't need one.


A warranty that's not enforcible is worth nothing
12/22/2008 12:11:11 PM EDT
[#49]
its Revelation. not Revelations. If you are gonna connect it to a book at least make sure you get the title right.
12/22/2008 12:13:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

They got a money back guarantee on that promise?


Don't need one.


A warranty that's not enforcible is worth nothing


Doesn't matter what you think anyway.
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