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5/6/2016 4:17:34 AM EDT
I know that Clinton family is against firearms but never got to research about Mr Trump's views.
I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY
5/6/2016 4:18:26 AM EDT
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What were your first 2 posts?
5/6/2016 4:22:00 AM EDT
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Just beginners post :-)
5/6/2016 4:22:35 AM EDT
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Thank god they don't have a website that searches they internet for things or this would be a pointless thread.
5/6/2016 4:22:56 AM EDT
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I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

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The fact that at this stage in his life we still dont know because of his conflicting stances, i'm going to vote No
5/6/2016 4:27:51 AM EDT
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My honest opinion: If it benefits him.



I think he would fight all gun control his first term, but probably wouldn't on his second.




Assuming he wins.
5/6/2016 4:28:37 AM EDT
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trump will make gun rights great again
5/6/2016 4:30:06 AM EDT
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No.

And paging Johnny_Reno.
5/6/2016 4:30:56 AM EDT
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More 2A than Hillary.

That's all that matters, all you need to know.
5/6/2016 4:31:09 AM EDT
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Johnny has no power here.
5/6/2016 4:32:05 AM EDT
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More 2A than Hillary.



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Yeah, being better then a negative doesn't mean it's a positive.
5/6/2016 4:32:22 AM EDT
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  Johnny has no power here.


He could answer some (10) questions about things!!!
5/6/2016 4:32:52 AM EDT
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Six Aspects Of Donald Trump’s Pro-Gun Push

Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has a plan to defend gun rights in general and the Second Amendment in particular. The plan is visible in the policies set forth by Trump as well as his understanding of the value of the Second Amendment and the freedoms it guards.

Here are six aspects of his plan.







https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
5/6/2016 4:34:03 AM EDT
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He could answer some (10) questions about things!!!
He's probably to busy reading the archives in the mod forum.

 



I bet he's finding out so much good gossip.
5/6/2016 4:34:46 AM EDT
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Trump is an Opportunist and currently being pro-gun suits his goals.


5/6/2016 4:35:37 AM EDT
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I really don't think that over the years Trump has given much serious thought to gun control.  His opinions are probably mostly shaped by the most recent person he talked to about whatever the given subject is.  I really don't worry too much much about the 2nd and a Trump presidency.

His opponent, in that case I KNOW what her thoughts are on gun control and how she deals with her political enemies.
5/6/2016 4:35:52 AM EDT
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And paging Johnny_Reno.

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He could answer some (10) questions about things!!!
He's probably to busy reading the archives in the mod forum.  

I bet he's finding out so much good gossip.


He'll see the reason for the last time I was locked.


5/6/2016 4:36:44 AM EDT
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The fact that at this stage in his life we still dont know because of his conflicting stances, i'm going to vote No
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I know that Clinton family is against firearms but never got to research about Mr Trump's views.
I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY



The fact that at this stage in his life we still dont know because of his conflicting stances, i'm going to vote No

You've been wrong about everything this election season. Your voice no longer carries weight.
5/6/2016 4:37:44 AM EDT
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He could answer some (10) questions about things!!!
He's probably to busy reading the archives in the mod forum.  



I bet he's finding out so much good gossip.





He'll see the reason for the last time I was locked.









 
He's going to see all my suspected previous accounts.




I'm innocent I swear!
5/6/2016 4:41:26 AM EDT
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well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.
5/6/2016 4:42:11 AM EDT
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Nice videos ;-) At least his current advertised goals are in line with us.
5/6/2016 4:42:42 AM EDT
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Trump is an Opportunist and currently being pro-gun suits his goals.




This and what the Smiley Bill Murray said.

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Nice videos ;-) At least his current advertised goals are in line with us.


Until they aren't in line with us.
5/6/2016 4:46:36 AM EDT
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well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.
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I know that Clinton family is against firearms but never got to research about Mr Trump's views.
I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY

well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.

No it isn't.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/03/san-bernardino-shooting-presidential-candidates-responses-nra-ratings
5/6/2016 4:47:16 AM EDT
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And his son is very pro 2nd which should make a big difference
5/6/2016 4:49:28 AM EDT
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More 2A than Hillary.



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And his son is very pro 2nd which should make a big difference




 
My Dad isn't very pro gun, and I'm a OTC machine gun kind of guy.




Doesn't really make a difference.
5/6/2016 4:52:42 AM EDT
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My honest opinion: If it benefits him.



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... Maybe. Guaranteed Hillary Rodham Clinton will fight to destroy the RKBA thru both terms
5/6/2016 4:52:59 AM EDT
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I know that Clinton family is against firearms but never got to research about Mr Trump's views.
I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY

well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.

No it isn't.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/03/san-bernardino-shooting-presidential-candidates-responses-nra-ratings

Bernie Sanders (Democrat)
NRA rating: D-


Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
NRA rating: F


Donald Trump (Republican)
NRA rating: N/A
5/6/2016 4:53:17 AM EDT
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This and what the Smiley Bill Murray said.



Until they aren't in line with us.
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Trump is an Opportunist and currently being pro-gun suits his goals.




This and what the Smiley Bill Murray said.

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Nice videos ;-) At least his current advertised goals are in line with us.


Until they aren't in line with us.

Firstly, Trump knows how close his "Mantle of Anger" base is to burning this motherfucker down. He isn't going to attack the mother of all sacred cows. Especially when he has made expanding gun rights one of his early action plans, meaning his success as President will be measured by the outcome.

Secondly, the other option is Hillary, who has made it clear she has an outright vendetta against us and will be attacking us out of the gate. She wants revenge for the trouble we caused her husband.
5/6/2016 4:54:52 AM EDT
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I know that Clinton family is against firearms but never got to research about Mr Trump's views.
I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY

well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.

No it isn't.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/03/san-bernardino-shooting-presidential-candidates-responses-nra-ratings

Bernie Sanders (Democrat)
NRA rating: D-


Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
NRA rating: F


Donald Trump (Republican)
NRA rating: N/A



The fact he hasn't been a politician is what you are attacking him with?

Go home. You're drunk.


"None available" beats an "F" any day.
5/6/2016 4:56:16 AM EDT
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My honest opinion: If it benefits him.



I think he would fight all gun control his first term, but probably wouldn't on his second.





Assuming he wins.



  ... Maybe. Guaranteed Hillary Rodham Clinton will fight to destroy the RKBA thru both terms





 
Agreed.
5/6/2016 5:01:35 AM EDT
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My honest opinion: If it benefits him.

I think he would fight all gun control his first term, but probably wouldn't on his second.


Assuming he wins.

  ... Maybe. Guaranteed Hillary Rodham Clinton will fight to destroy the RKBA thru both terms

  Agreed.

It's important to keep in mind that Clinton has a personal grudge against us.

Not even Sanders would have come after us like Clinton will. It isn't personal to him.
5/6/2016 5:08:51 AM EDT
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The fact he hasn't been a politician is what you are attacking him with?

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"None available" beats an "F" any day.
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I know that Clinton family is against firearms but never got to research about Mr Trump's views.
I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY

well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.

No it isn't.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/03/san-bernardino-shooting-presidential-candidates-responses-nra-ratings

Bernie Sanders (Democrat)
NRA rating: D-


Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
NRA rating: F


Donald Trump (Republican)
NRA rating: N/A



The fact he hasn't been a politician is what you are attacking him with?

Go home. You're drunk.


"None available" beats an "F" any day.

not how it works. it is based off his actions and response to an NRA survey.
5/6/2016 5:18:32 AM EDT
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My honest opinion: If it benefits him.



I think he would fight all gun control his first term, but probably wouldn't on his second.





Assuming he wins.



  ... Maybe. Guaranteed Hillary Rodham Clinton will fight to destroy the RKBA thru both terms



  Agreed.



It's important to keep in mind that Clinton has a personal grudge against us.



Not even Sanders would have come after us like Clinton will. It isn't personal to him.




 
Don't disagree with that either.




I do think that Sanders would be worse on the whole though.
5/6/2016 5:21:12 AM EDT
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not how it works. it is based off his actions and response to an NRA survey.
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well, his NRA gun rights grade is lower then Hillary.
that should tell you something.

No it isn't.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/03/san-bernardino-shooting-presidential-candidates-responses-nra-ratings

Bernie Sanders (Democrat)
NRA rating: D-


Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
NRA rating: F


Donald Trump (Republican)
NRA rating: N/A



The fact he hasn't been a politician is what you are attacking him with?

Go home. You're drunk.


"None available" beats an "F" any day.

not how it works. it is based off his actions and response to an NRA survey.

Or, we could list the other non-politicians with "N/A" and conclude that you're wrong.

Fun fact: "Not available" is not a synonym of "worse than". Which is exactly what you said. You were wrong. This moment determines if it was from ignorance or deliberate falsehood.

"OMG Ben Carson is totally worse than Hillary on the Second Amendment!!!" <---- No one is going to believe that one either.
5/6/2016 5:21:58 AM EDT
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My honest opinion: If it benefits him.

I think he would fight all gun control his first term, but probably wouldn't on his second.


Assuming he wins.

  ... Maybe. Guaranteed Hillary Rodham Clinton will fight to destroy the RKBA thru both terms

  Agreed.

It's important to keep in mind that Clinton has a personal grudge against us.

Not even Sanders would have come after us like Clinton will. It isn't personal to him.

  Don't disagree with that either.


I do think that Sanders would be worse on the whole though.

Agreed. But it won't be Sanders on their side... Well, without an indictment or something.
5/6/2016 5:25:00 AM EDT
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Paging Nor_Cal
5/6/2016 5:57:44 AM EDT
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Or you could be an NRA member a know how the process works.https://votesmart.org/interest-group/1034/national-rifle-association#.VyxmmMlOnqA

"The NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) is NRA's political action committee. The NRA-PVF ranks political candidates - irrespective of party affiliation - based on voting records, public statements and their responses to an NRA-PVF questionnaire."
5/6/2016 6:02:00 AM EDT
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The only known is that he'll be more pro-gun than Clinton.


Don't expect the ATF or NFA requirements to change, though.
5/6/2016 6:05:08 AM EDT
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Depends.  What day of the week is it?
5/6/2016 6:16:58 AM EDT
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As long as it's not black or Hispanics in urban areas, like most rich Yankee elites
5/6/2016 6:17:37 AM EDT
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LOL @ the Cruzlims.

We need to give them space to destroy and maybe they will feel better.
5/6/2016 6:18:58 AM EDT
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All honesty.... maybe.







He's said he supposed an assault weapon ban in the past. Now he says this.










He MIGHT be, he might not! Either way he'd be a better choice than Hillary.








5/6/2016 6:30:10 AM EDT
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Not historically.  



We shall see if he has truly had an epiphany?




Nobody can answer yes with certainty, they can only be hoping based on his recent lip service.  
5/6/2016 6:32:56 AM EDT
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I haven't researched much about his inclination towards 2nd amendment, can people enlighten folks like me.

TY



The fact that at this stage in his life we still dont know because of his conflicting stances, i'm going to vote No

You've been wrong about everything this election season. Your voice no longer carries weight.



and of course you have examples....
5/6/2016 6:37:59 AM EDT
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Or you could be an NRA member a know how the process works.https://votesmart.org/interest-group/1034/national-rifle-association#.VyxmmMlOnqA

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Or you could be an NRA member a know how the process works.https://votesmart.org/interest-group/1034/national-rifle-association#.VyxmmMlOnqA

"The NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) is NRA's political action committee. The NRA-PVF ranks political candidates - irrespective of party affiliation - based on voting records, public statements and their responses to an NRA-PVF questionnaire."

I am an NRA member.

Your quote has nothing to do with the meaning of an "N/A" rating.

Don't bank on becoming an attorney as a second career.


If your claim that an NRA grade of "N/A" is worse than an "F" were true, then it would have to be true that President Ben Carson would be worse for the Second Amendment than President Hillary Clinton. That is a laughable claim and proves your premise absurd.


Do you want me to formulate an argument for you? I'd be willing to do it. I'm a charitable person.
5/6/2016 6:44:22 AM EDT
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 Donald J. Trump
?  ??@realDonaldTrump  

President Obama spoke for me and every American in his remarks in #Newtown Connecticut.

1:21 PM - 17 Dec 2012



so, was he lying then? or lying now?
“We can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end, and to end them we must change,” Obama said, implicitly rebuking those who argue that efforts to introduce more gun control laws would do little to stop killings.

“Surely, we can do better than this,” the newly re-elected president said, appearing to set up a new political battle with America’s powerful gun lobby with the potential to define his second term.

Obama promised to use “whatever power this office holds” to engage Americans, law enforcement and health professionals to try to prevent more tragedies like the one that struck Newtown.

“Because what choice do we have? We can’t accept events like this as routine. Are we really prepared to say that we are powerless in the face of such carnage?”


Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/discovered-trump-loved-obamas-gun-grabbing-speech-terrible-shooting/#ixzz47s44csPF


5/6/2016 7:53:29 AM EDT
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5/6/2016 7:55:39 AM EDT
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His stated positions now are very Second Amendment friendly. His sons are AR15 owners and would probably fit right in on this board. Anyway, no Republican is going to push for gun control. At this point, it would be like the Democrats pushing an abortion ban. It's the bedrock issue of the party.
5/6/2016 8:05:25 AM EDT
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Here are six aspects of his plan.



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Christ, those were painful to watch...
5/6/2016 8:08:00 AM EDT
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Why don't you simply listen to one of Trump speeches? I have heard about 50 of his speeches there is no question on his commitment to the right to keep and bear arms. He refers to it every single time he speaks. There should be no ignorance on this issue.
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Does he ever refer to it as something other than "gun rights" or "2nd amendment"?
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