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10/31/2013 6:34:12 PM EDT
We've more than doubled our population since 1960. Is this a problem? If so, how should we address the issue?

10/31/2013 6:36:00 PM EDT
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Nope
10/31/2013 6:36:12 PM EDT
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We'll implode at some point and the earth will make adjustments
10/31/2013 6:37:20 PM EDT
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It is not sustainable.
10/31/2013 6:37:39 PM EDT
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10/31/2013 6:37:49 PM EDT
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I have a modest proposal.
10/31/2013 6:38:02 PM EDT
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It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption.
10/31/2013 6:38:26 PM EDT
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Taxing the shit out of everyone who works for a living to support the excess isn't a solution?
10/31/2013 6:38:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes, but only because the areas with population growth are least able to feed their people.
10/31/2013 6:39:03 PM EDT
[#9]
Yes, but only because the areas with population growth are least able to feed their people.
10/31/2013 6:39:37 PM EDT
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It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption
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Ok, what percent of growth is sustainable?
10/31/2013 6:39:50 PM EDT
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Nope. Most first world countries the population growth is negative. It'll catch up around the world.
10/31/2013 6:40:32 PM EDT
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Let me put it this way; it's not the best idea that I've ever heard.
10/31/2013 6:40:59 PM EDT
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Please expand, it sounds delicious!



 
10/31/2013 6:41:39 PM EDT
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Population growth?

Well, that's part of it, but the bigger issue is population density. Plenty of land for the world population to spread out on, but it doesn't. It concentrates in the same damn areas creating super cities that are more and more difficult to administer.

These densely populated areas will be breading grounds for new viruses and especially in third world nations like India and China I think we're going to see some pretty bad diseases popping up.
10/31/2013 6:42:29 PM EDT
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Nope. Most first world countries the population growth is negative. It'll catch up around the world.
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Secondary question: Why would the "third world" population be growing when they lack the medical technology and food production of "first world" nations?
10/31/2013 6:42:34 PM EDT
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Yes, because most of the population growth is libtards reproducing.
10/31/2013 6:44:08 PM EDT
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I can think of some regions that could benefit from fewer inhabitants. Its for the earth so it's ok - right?
10/31/2013 6:44:23 PM EDT
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Nope. Most first world countries the population growth is negative. It'll catch up around the world.


Secondary question: Why would the "third world" population be growing when they lack the medical technology and food production of "first world" nations?


No family planning and no birth control.

Dependence on large families to help with agricultural production on their poorly managed family farms. Lack of any financial knowledge or government social security like plan for retirement also means the parents in third world nations are more dependent on large numbers of children to support them in the elder years.

10/31/2013 6:44:46 PM EDT
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Nearly all of our problems are population related.
10/31/2013 6:45:03 PM EDT
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Nope. Most first world countries the population growth is negative. It'll catch up around the world.


Secondary question: Why would the "third world" population be growing when they lack the medical technology and food production of "first world" nations?


High infant mortality rate, parent's need for their labor, and lack of education/availability on/of birth control.
10/31/2013 6:46:01 PM EDT
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If people who can't afford to raise kids keep having them at ever increasing rates, it will become a self-correcting problem.  



Of course, the suffering will also be enormous.




But I don't see another path so long as we contine down the road of socialism on a global scale.




Let the free markets loose, and stop subsidizing everything and everyone, and the problem probably wouldn't even become a problem.
10/31/2013 6:47:21 PM EDT
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Not a problem.  Populations are self limiting.  We'll never actually overpopulate the Earth.
10/31/2013 6:48:17 PM EDT
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Population growth?



Well, that's part of it, but the bigger issue is population density. Plenty of land for the world population to spread out on, but it doesn't. It concentrates in the same damn areas creating super cities that are more and more difficult to administer.



These densely populated areas will be breading grounds for new viruses and especially in third world nations like India and China I think we're going to see some pretty bad diseases popping up.
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That is largely due to the fact that most of the earths land is "useless", either too hot, too cold, too dry, or too wet.



Obviously this is an older map and is very high level, but in general the green areas grow most of the food for everywhere else. If you don't live in a green area, then things could get interesting in your future.







 
10/31/2013 6:48:31 PM EDT
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We've more than doubled our population since 1960. Is this a problem? If so, how should we address the issue?

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Just that data?  Just that question?

Nope.   And I don't understand why anyone would just point to a number all by itself and freak out about it just because of how much bigger it is now than it was in the past.


The planet is not over-populated.   It is over-managed.
10/31/2013 6:48:46 PM EDT
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No family planning and no birth control.

Dependence on large families to help with agricultural production on their poorly managed family farms. Lack of any financial knowledge or government social security like plan for retirement also means the parents in third world nations are more dependent on large numbers of children to support them in the elder years.

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Nope. Most first world countries the population growth is negative. It'll catch up around the world.


Secondary question: Why would the "third world" population be growing when they lack the medical technology and food production of "first world" nations?


No family planning and no birth control.

Dependence on large families to help with agricultural production on their poorly managed family farms. Lack of any financial knowledge or government social security like plan for retirement also means the parents in third world nations are more dependent on large numbers of children to support them in the elder years.



Don't the higher mortality rates and shorter lifespans balance the growth with these non-developed nations? AFAIK, that isn't true to all areas in under developed countries. Larger families can be a liability for subsistence agriculturists in areas with limited arable land and large (poor) populations.
10/31/2013 6:49:39 PM EDT
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Wars or disease will curb it, it's inevitable.

It's just a matter of when.

The strong will survive.
10/31/2013 6:49:44 PM EDT
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Excess population is the cause of a LOT of the world's current problems, in my opinion.
10/31/2013 6:50:49 PM EDT
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Just that data?  Just that question?

Nope.   And I don't understand why anyone would just point to a number all by itself and freak out about it just because of how much bigger it is now than it was in the past.


The planet is not over-populated.   It is over-managed.
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We've more than doubled our population since 1960. Is this a problem? If so, how should we address the issue?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/World-Population-1800-2100.svg



Just that data?  Just that question?

Nope.   And I don't understand why anyone would just point to a number all by itself and freak out about it just because of how much bigger it is now than it was in the past.


The planet is not over-populated.   It is over-managed.


I'm not freaking out, and I realize that it is just one number from wikipedia. I'm simply asking a question.
10/31/2013 6:50:55 PM EDT
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Excess of what number?  

Defend that number.
10/31/2013 6:51:51 PM EDT
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Not an issue.

In 1997, the world's population would've been able to fit inside the city limits of Jacksonville, Florida. 4sq feet per person.

At that point .5 percent of all inhabitable land mass on earth was being used.

So let's throw this out there and say we've grown in population 30% since then.

The world is not overpopulated.  Also in the early 1990s, VP Albert Gore was quoted in saying that current food production would be unable to feed the world's population by 2000.

Last I checked, the US still the most overweight country in the world.
10/31/2013 6:52:57 PM EDT
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Say what you want about the NWO/conspiracy thingys...but the term "useless eaters" is something I agree with them on.
10/31/2013 6:53:01 PM EDT
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Nothing a worldwide economic collapse, world war, famine and the like wont solve. These problems take care of themselves. Places like Russia and Canada though you can walk for days and not see a living soul so i dont think we are even close to breakpoint.
10/31/2013 6:55:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Every thing becomes more serious when you consider our size.  320'000,000 people present a very serious potential problem.
10/31/2013 6:55:25 PM EDT
[#34]
This is not a "yes or no" question.
10/31/2013 6:55:29 PM EDT
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I am of the clear opinion those that advocate population control should lead by example. "Remove yourself!"
10/31/2013 6:58:15 PM EDT
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I've seen a lot of the population and they are pretty damn growth...
10/31/2013 7:00:38 PM EDT
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Fixt
10/31/2013 7:00:38 PM EDT
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The problem is that the red line is skyrocketing and the green one is falling off. Negative population growth in the west is a real problem.
10/31/2013 7:02:17 PM EDT
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It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption.
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It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption.


yup
10/31/2013 7:03:22 PM EDT
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yup
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...or production.
10/31/2013 7:03:53 PM EDT
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It is not sustainable.


It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption.


yup



Which resources are being consumed at too high of a rate and why?
10/31/2013 7:05:34 PM EDT
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Quit feeding those without means of feedings themselves and the problem goes away.
10/31/2013 7:06:04 PM EDT
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Too many people.  





I live outside a small town.  About 20 years ago one of my teachers in HS told us "in 50 years you'll be telling your grandkids something they won't believe.  You used to be able to head just outside town and shot a gun."





I'm worried that might actually be true someday.

 
10/31/2013 7:08:59 PM EDT
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It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption.
Bullshit there is plenty of land and resources not being used or miss managed and wasted.

 
10/31/2013 7:10:37 PM EDT
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Would you rather live in Tokyo, or Papua New Guinea
10/31/2013 7:11:29 PM EDT
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Boom.
10/31/2013 7:12:36 PM EDT
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Not an issue.

In 1997, the world's population would've been able to fit inside the city limits of Jacksonville, Florida. 4sq feet per person.

At that point .5 percent of all inhabitable land mass on earth was being used.

So let's throw this out there and say we've grown in population 30% since then.

The world is not overpopulated.  Also in the early 1990s, VP Albert Gore was quoted in saying that current food production would be unable to feed the world's population by 2000.

Last I checked, the US still the most overweight country in the world.
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No, its mexico.
At that rate of growth, there would be one person per acre on earth in 60 years.  In 80 years one person for every half acre.  In one hundred years one person for every quarter acre.  This is assuming people can live in the arctic on one acre or less.

Not sustainable
10/31/2013 7:13:06 PM EDT
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Humans have a long history of overpopulating places to the breaking point and then adapting and changing things and then overpopulating that.
10/31/2013 7:15:57 PM EDT
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Nothing a worldwide economic collapse, world war, famine and the like wont solve. These problems take care of themselves. Places like Russia and Canada though you can walk for days and not see a living soul so i dont think we are even close to breakpoint.
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Malthusian.  
Population exponential growth is very rapid at the end.  

If the population doubles every 10 yrs, and that population is currently at 1/2 carrying capacity (whatever that is). The it will be only 10 yrs until carrying capacity is reached and exceeded.
10/31/2013 7:16:37 PM EDT
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It's very sustainable, just not at our current levels of consumption.


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