Posted: 5/27/2015 3:28:01 PM EDT
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As we know, 35% of all american adults are obese (BMI of 30+) and 70% of all adults are overweight or obese. That's over 2/3 of the population.
The FBI penetration standards came about in the 80's where the obesity rate was a LOT lower. Are they now out of date? Should we rethink what is acceptable penetration? An oblique shot on someone with a BMI of 35 is going to be a lot more tissue then someone who's got a bmi of 25. |
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Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Quoted:
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at 12 to 18 inches you are still hitting what needs to be hit.... Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. I have a BMI of 40+ at any angle 12" is going to hit a vital |
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Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Quoted:
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at 12 to 18 inches you are still hitting what needs to be hit.... Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Then choot 'em again, mang. It's not like fatty will be moving all that fast. 
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You may be onto something. Especially in areas where most are on public assistance, the most prevalent disease is ironically obesity. Welcome to the USA, where the "poor" people are fat and the "rich" people are skinny. Try and find that pretty much anywhere else in the world
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Quoted: As we know, 35% of all american adults are obese (BMI of 30+) and 70% of all adults are overweight or obese. That's over 2/3 of the population. The FBI penetration standards came about in the 80's where the obesity rate was a LOT lower. Are they now out of date? Should we rethink what is acceptable penetration? An oblique shot on someone with a BMI of 35 is going to be a lot more tissue then someone who's got a bmi of 25. The great majority of the population and AR15 membership should focus more on fitness standards more so than penetration standards. |
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Quoted: More than the actual penetration standard, I like that the whole industry seems to have more or less settled on the FBI testing protocol. If everyone is testing using the same setup then you can compare results to others somewhat usefully. Hair analysis anyone? It is better for everyone if separate independent entities are conducting tests. |
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Enlarged heart = easier target oh really? http://cdn.themetapicture.com/pic/images/2014/06/19/cool-x-ray-fat-person-bones.jpg Picture posting failure. 
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Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Quoted:
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at 12 to 18 inches you are still hitting what needs to be hit.... Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Follow up with a head shot. Lol |
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The great majority of the population and AR15 membership should focus more on fitness standards more so than penetration standards. Quoted:
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As we know, 35% of all american adults are obese (BMI of 30+) and 70% of all adults are overweight or obese. That's over 2/3 of the population. The FBI penetration standards came about in the 80's where the obesity rate was a LOT lower. Are they now out of date? Should we rethink what is acceptable penetration? An oblique shot on someone with a BMI of 35 is going to be a lot more tissue then someone who's got a bmi of 25. The great majority of the population and AR15 membership should focus more on fitness standards more so than penetration standards. Fitness has nothing to do with OTHER people getting fat. Last I checked, I'm not going to have to shoot myself.
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More than the actual penetration standard, I like that the whole industry seems to have more or less settled on the FBI testing protocol. If everyone is testing using the same setup then you can compare results to others somewhat usefully. And this is more or less why the tests were designed. To develop a standard to test bullets with. |
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Quoted: Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Quoted: Quoted: at 12 to 18 inches you are still hitting what needs to be hit.... Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Don't worry about ballistics. Stick with a normal round (not the new shit on the block) and use multiple rounds if it is that big of a deal. |
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Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Quoted:
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at 12 to 18 inches you are still hitting what needs to be hit.... Except, as a worst case scenario, if you end up shooting someone at an angle, where the bullet goes through an arm, then into their chest at an angle . . . you rapidly run out of inches. Oh damn. I thought the penetration conversation was about something else. I guess that makes me a pervert.
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