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Originally Posted By Former11BRAVO: It's never a bad time to get right with the Lord. "This time" just feels different, too. And, this time, it feels as though much of what's coming is self-inflicted; caused by some very bad actors in DC (many, manipulated and/or controlled by even worse, international, bad actors). I just wish those responsible would feel (even a fraction) of what the average US/world citizen is feeling - and going to feel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Originally Posted By MIR: The US is tying the IDF's hands...... they want the IDF to fight wars the way the US does....... AND LOSE I have said it once and will say it again, I fear more what the Lord is going to do to this nation than what is going to happen to Israel............... prepare accordingly and get your hearts right with the Lord It's never a bad time to get right with the Lord. "This time" just feels different, too. And, this time, it feels as though much of what's coming is self-inflicted; caused by some very bad actors in DC (many, manipulated and/or controlled by even worse, international, bad actors). I just wish those responsible would feel (even a fraction) of what the average US/world citizen is feeling - and going to feel. Oh, they will. For eternity, in hell. No matter the pain here on earth for us, it’s temporary. Nothing here really matters. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: A proposal still in draft discusses future of Gaza population--one idea is sending them to Sinai. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: A proposal still in draft discusses future of Gaza population--one idea is sending them to Sinai. Among a number of suggestions in a new document drafted by Israel's Intelligence Ministry is the possible relocation of the population of the Gaza Strip to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, in the current war's aftermath. The document suggests that Israel might initially relocate the population of the Strip to tent cities to be followed later by the establishment of permanent communities in northern Sinai. The document presents two additional alternatives for the future of the Gaza Strip that do not include population transfer. One would permit the Palestinian Authority, which has partial control of the West Bank and which was ousted from Gaza by Hamas in 2007, to control Gaza with its current residents remaining. Another option would have Israel establish "local Arab rule" by Gaza's residents who remain in their homes after the collapse of the Hamas regime. As first reported by Israel's Hebrew-language Local Call website, the option of settling Gaza's population in northern Sinai includes a buffer zone of several kilometers that would prevent Gazans from approaching the Israeli border. The Intelligence Ministry confirmed the existence of the document, but a source familiar with the drafting of it said the cabinet isn't expected to debate the proposal and that the Intelligence Ministry is not the government entity that would be responsible for such decision-making. Cheaper than rebuilding Gaza, which almost certainly will be done with US dollars. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NMtPP9lMQ View Quote That car looks like it's riding kinda low in the back. |
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Have we started taking bets on when we see the first tunnel bombs being used on advancing Israeli’s? Given the amount of time they’ve had to prepare and effectiveness shown in Syria these have to have been incorporate somehow into defensive playbook. Going to be a hard thing to counter.
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By michigan66: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NMtPP9lMQ View Quote |
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"Because free men will never consent to give up the means of defending their liberties."
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Originally Posted By mac130: She was dead in the back of the truck. She had a hole in the back of her head from an exit wound. Not sure why anyone was holding out hope she was alive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mac130: Originally Posted By Solo_: Shani Louk is declared dead. Deadhttps://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/family-of-german-israeli-shani-louk-thought-to-be-captive-informed-she-is-dead/ She was dead in the back of the truck. She had a hole in the back of her head from an exit wound. Not sure why anyone was holding out hope she was alive. I hope everyone that took part in the Oct 7th tragedy, dies a horrible, painful, long drawn out death. |
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Originally Posted By Mickdog13: Originally Posted By Stretchman: When is the FBI going to hunt down the terrorists at Cornell and arrest them for online threats? Terrorists? Yes. Terrorists. That post was made solely to incite violence against innocents and inflict terror and fear within the Jewish population. Those are hate crimes as defined even by the liberal Dems and fits the definition of “terrorism” |
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"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
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Willy OAM live is back up.
Israel Gaza War LIVE ON THE GROUND - Original Willy OAM |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile: She was beheaded. ETA:
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By realwar: Kidnapped Shani Louk is dead, her family announces, after 'bone from the base of her skull' is found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists and paraded on the back of a truck https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/30/09/76423181-12687753-Shani_22_was_German_but_grew_up_in_Israel_and_was_one_of_hundred-a-7_1698658128106.jpg Kidnapped Shani Louk's family have announced that she is dead after a bone from the base of her skull was found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists at the Nova electronic festival and paraded on the back of a truck. Ms Louk, 22, was kidnapped from Israel to Gaza by Hamas terrorists on October 7 from the festival near Kibbutz Reim. Hamas gunmen took at least 239 hostages and killed about 1,400 people during the dawn raid. For more than three weeks, Ms Louk's family prayed that the German-Israeli could be saved from the terrorists. But Ms Louk's mother and sister today announced that she was dead. 'Unfortunately we got the news yesterday that my daughter is no longer alive,' mother Ricarda said on German broadcaster RTL. Shani's sister Adi wrote on Instagram that she 'announced with great sadness the death of my sister'. Ms Louk's cousin told the Jerusalem Post that the family were told by the Israeli Defence Forces that a bone from the base of the 22-year-old's skull had been found. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/30/09/77166787-12687753-Louk_s_motionless_body_was_paraded_by_Hamas_gunmen_after_the_fes-a-3_1698658128104.jpg The IDF and volunteers from the Zaka emergency response team said the bone from the base of a skull, without which a person can't survive, matched with Ms Louk's DNA. The exact circumstances of Ms Louk's death are as of yet unclear and it is also not known where the bone was found. Ms Louk was paraded by Hamas gunmen after the festival attack in Israel. Video had earlier shown her dancing at the music event. It was unclear if she was alive in the video, although her mother later stated that she was alive and being held in a Gaza hospital. Ms Louk's boyfriend, Mexican national Ori n Hern ndez Radoux, is also believed to have been taken by terrorists in the attack. Her family had blasted the German government for ignoring their pleas for help after they were told she was still alive in Gaza. Ms Louk's aunt Orly Louk and her uncle Wilfried Gehr pleaded with the German government in a television interview on the programme 'ZDF heute' days after her kidnap. They said: 'We've been begging the German government to help for three days now. 'We are unsettled and totally disappointed that the Federal Government does not feel responsible. One from the Foreign Office said he doesn't have time because they have to rebook flights. That makes me so angry.' Continued Strange all the mentions of the bone part of the story. Was it blown out by gunshot or removed with a dull knife by the drug crazed savages? Of all the body parts that are littering that area it is odd that hers was found and identified. ETA:
Well, the skull is a pretty important part. The original story made it sound like just a small bone though. |
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Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. In the end, the one who wins is the one who thinks he can! - SCI, NRA
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By xd341: I'm not sure about that. Are the supply ships/oilers that travel with a CSG USNS or USS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By WoodHeat: I was asking about the USNS (Military Sealift Command) ships, not the USN ships. Yes. They're all over the world, crewed by US Merchant Mariners, not Navy. |
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"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
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Willy live:
Israel Gaza War LIVE ON THE GROUND - Original Willy OAM |
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Regarding Ms. Louk, Arfcom called that one straight away. Didn't she have a wound visible on the back of her head? I just assumed they'd shot her in the head and dumped her in the bed of the pickup. Poor fucking kid.
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile: She was beheaded. ETA:
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By realwar: Kidnapped Shani Louk is dead, her family announces, after 'bone from the base of her skull' is found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists and paraded on the back of a truck https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/30/09/76423181-12687753-Shani_22_was_German_but_grew_up_in_Israel_and_was_one_of_hundred-a-7_1698658128106.jpg Kidnapped Shani Louk's family have announced that she is dead after a bone from the base of her skull was found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists at the Nova electronic festival and paraded on the back of a truck. Ms Louk, 22, was kidnapped from Israel to Gaza by Hamas terrorists on October 7 from the festival near Kibbutz Reim. Hamas gunmen took at least 239 hostages and killed about 1,400 people during the dawn raid. For more than three weeks, Ms Louk's family prayed that the German-Israeli could be saved from the terrorists. But Ms Louk's mother and sister today announced that she was dead. 'Unfortunately we got the news yesterday that my daughter is no longer alive,' mother Ricarda said on German broadcaster RTL. Shani's sister Adi wrote on Instagram that she 'announced with great sadness the death of my sister'. Ms Louk's cousin told the Jerusalem Post that the family were told by the Israeli Defence Forces that a bone from the base of the 22-year-old's skull had been found. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/30/09/77166787-12687753-Louk_s_motionless_body_was_paraded_by_Hamas_gunmen_after_the_fes-a-3_1698658128104.jpg The IDF and volunteers from the Zaka emergency response team said the bone from the base of a skull, without which a person can't survive, matched with Ms Louk's DNA. The exact circumstances of Ms Louk's death are as of yet unclear and it is also not known where the bone was found. Ms Louk was paraded by Hamas gunmen after the festival attack in Israel. Video had earlier shown her dancing at the music event. It was unclear if she was alive in the video, although her mother later stated that she was alive and being held in a Gaza hospital. Ms Louk's boyfriend, Mexican national Ori n Hern ndez Radoux, is also believed to have been taken by terrorists in the attack. Her family had blasted the German government for ignoring their pleas for help after they were told she was still alive in Gaza. Ms Louk's aunt Orly Louk and her uncle Wilfried Gehr pleaded with the German government in a television interview on the programme 'ZDF heute' days after her kidnap. They said: 'We've been begging the German government to help for three days now. 'We are unsettled and totally disappointed that the Federal Government does not feel responsible. One from the Foreign Office said he doesn't have time because they have to rebook flights. That makes me so angry.' Continued Strange all the mentions of the bone part of the story. Was it blown out by gunshot or removed with a dull knife by the drug crazed savages? Of all the body parts that are littering that area it is odd that hers was found and identified. ETA:
All of those fuckers need to be put down. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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View Quote He needs a day off. With his medical issues, this amount of stress is going to take a toll. |
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Originally Posted By NY12ga: Unless China beats us to it with their belts and roads… View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NY12ga: Originally Posted By WoodHeat: Cheaper than rebuilding Gaza, which almost certainly will be done with US dollars. Unless China beats us to it with their belts and roads… Ooooooh, now that's a thought. Build back better with good ELINT, tunnels and super duty construction. Could be very, very problematic- esp. if China pushes hard for it to be a friendly warm water port in the Med. How would the Russians react? |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By Johnrpb: Have we started taking bets on when we see the first tunnel bombs being used on advancing Israeli’s? Given the amount of time they’ve had to prepare and effectiveness shown in Syria these have to have been incorporate somehow into defensive playbook. Going to be a hard thing to counter. View Quote So far it seems they haven't moved into urban areas yet with their main force. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By 24Cans: Was afraid of that. Her leg was at a nasty angle, maybe from getting struck by a vehicle or intentionally broken to keep her from fighting back / escaping, but not life threatening. Was pretty sure she was still alive, albeit knocked out, when filmed in that truck. One dude even had hand full of hair to proclaim his property. They took her back and had their way with her. No reason to take a dead person back to your lair only to behead them later. All of those fuckers need to be put down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 24Cans: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By realwar: Kidnapped Shani Louk is dead, her family announces, after 'bone from the base of her skull' is found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists and paraded on the back of a truck https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/30/09/76423181-12687753-Shani_22_was_German_but_grew_up_in_Israel_and_was_one_of_hundred-a-7_1698658128106.jpg Kidnapped Shani Louk's family have announced that she is dead after a bone from the base of her skull was found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists at the Nova electronic festival and paraded on the back of a truck. Ms Louk, 22, was kidnapped from Israel to Gaza by Hamas terrorists on October 7 from the festival near Kibbutz Reim. Hamas gunmen took at least 239 hostages and killed about 1,400 people during the dawn raid. For more than three weeks, Ms Louk's family prayed that the German-Israeli could be saved from the terrorists. But Ms Louk's mother and sister today announced that she was dead. 'Unfortunately we got the news yesterday that my daughter is no longer alive,' mother Ricarda said on German broadcaster RTL. Shani's sister Adi wrote on Instagram that she 'announced with great sadness the death of my sister'. Ms Louk's cousin told the Jerusalem Post that the family were told by the Israeli Defence Forces that a bone from the base of the 22-year-old's skull had been found. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/30/09/77166787-12687753-Louk_s_motionless_body_was_paraded_by_Hamas_gunmen_after_the_fes-a-3_1698658128104.jpg The IDF and volunteers from the Zaka emergency response team said the bone from the base of a skull, without which a person can't survive, matched with Ms Louk's DNA. The exact circumstances of Ms Louk's death are as of yet unclear and it is also not known where the bone was found. Ms Louk was paraded by Hamas gunmen after the festival attack in Israel. Video had earlier shown her dancing at the music event. It was unclear if she was alive in the video, although her mother later stated that she was alive and being held in a Gaza hospital. Ms Louk's boyfriend, Mexican national Ori n Hern ndez Radoux, is also believed to have been taken by terrorists in the attack. Her family had blasted the German government for ignoring their pleas for help after they were told she was still alive in Gaza. Ms Louk's aunt Orly Louk and her uncle Wilfried Gehr pleaded with the German government in a television interview on the programme 'ZDF heute' days after her kidnap. They said: 'We've been begging the German government to help for three days now. 'We are unsettled and totally disappointed that the Federal Government does not feel responsible. One from the Foreign Office said he doesn't have time because they have to rebook flights. That makes me so angry.' Continued Strange all the mentions of the bone part of the story. Was it blown out by gunshot or removed with a dull knife by the drug crazed savages? Of all the body parts that are littering that area it is odd that hers was found and identified. ETA:
All of those fuckers need to be put down. Youre forgetting the hole in her head when she was in the truck. Yes there is a reason - its to send a message and take a trophy. Its barbarism - something many dont realize exists much less understand it. |
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I hope when the IDF makes it to the hospital, they clear all the tunnels underneath without destroying them at first.
I want it documented that Hamas was indeed using such areas to shield themselves. I know most of the world still won’t care, but it might help. |
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Originally Posted By 24Cans: Was afraid of that. Her leg was at a nasty angle, maybe from getting struck by a vehicle or intentionally broken to keep her from fighting back / escaping, but not life threatening. Was pretty sure she was still alive, albeit knocked out, when filmed in that truck. One dude even had hand full of hair to proclaim his property. They took her back and had their way with her. No reason to take a dead person back to your lair only to behead them later. All of those fuckers need to be put down. View Quote Pretty sure they were/are taking dead Israelis to promote fake "live" hostages for negotiations. |
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Originally Posted By lil_Sig: I was? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/575474/f115fb1b28224a36a123d7eb37d9de16_jpg-3009554.JPG View Quote Then you should be aware of the support that Russia (then the Soviet Union) pushed to all manner of terrorist organizations in Europe and the Middle East. Many of the terrorist groups had Marxist-Leninist leanings. The Soviet Union heavily backed Iran after their revolution and during the Iran-Iraq War, and is why the US started supported Iraq. Lots of Soviet time, money, and training went to Middle East states, Iran, their proxies, and practically any actor that would agree to go fuck with the west. This isn't new. They did similar things with Africa and much of their revolutionary movements. Thus, the question. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By bulldog1967: That idiot should have taken a dirt nap a long time ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bulldog1967: That idiot should have taken a dirt nap a long time ago. We've owed him one since 2004 at least. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9rYmEmXYAAyi-b?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote Care to explain what we're looking at to us normies? |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Religious Jews take recovery of remains very seriously. Here's more about the group, Zaka, who most likely found the bone(s), Zaka world. Back in the Second Intifada they were among the first on the scene after bombings, combing though the rubble and debris looking for any and all human remains, no matter how small. CNN story about them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Originally Posted By TinSpinner: Strange all the mentions of the bone part of the story. Was it blown out by gunshot or removed with a dull knife by the drug crazed savages? Of all the body parts that are littering that area it is odd that hers was found and identified. Just a guess but maybe from remains recovered from the site of the music fest. Religious Jews take recovery of remains very seriously. Here's more about the group, Zaka, who most likely found the bone(s), Zaka world. Back in the Second Intifada they were among the first on the scene after bombings, combing though the rubble and debris looking for any and all human remains, no matter how small. CNN story about them. There was a recent article about them sweeping literal ash from a house in order to recover the remains. The ash was the remains. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: That's a lot of boom. Mostly US Navy and done without radically changing deployment schedules so far. The Ford CSG is extended and Ike got pulled forward a little but nothing dramatic....yet. I doubt any other navy could pull that off at all, and the US Navy has 3x more assets that aren't in the region. They are keeping Hezbollah in check and providing a credible deterrent to Iran and their proxies. Don't forget to thank a sailor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Mostly US Navy and done without radically changing deployment schedules so far. The Ford CSG is extended and Ike got pulled forward a little but nothing dramatic....yet. I doubt any other navy could pull that off at all, and the US Navy has 3x more assets that aren't in the region. They are keeping Hezbollah in check and providing a credible deterrent to Iran and their proxies. Don't forget to thank a sailor. |
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Tonight, the female soldier Col. (also hearing she was a Corporal) Uri Magidish was released, during a ground operation, after she was kidnapped by the terrorist organization Hamas on 7/10. The soldier was medically examined, her condition is good and she met with her family. The IDF and Shin Bet will continue to make every effort to bring about the release of the abductees
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." - Samuel Adams
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Her body has been found. View Quote Only her head, I think. Beautiful girl, too. Fucking demented monsters, the lot of 'em! |
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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" --- Sigmond Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis
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Originally Posted By cXpSRi3x: Pretty sure they were/are taking dead Israelis to promote fake "live" hostages for negotiations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cXpSRi3x: Originally Posted By 24Cans: Was afraid of that. Her leg was at a nasty angle, maybe from getting struck by a vehicle or intentionally broken to keep her from fighting back / escaping, but not life threatening. Was pretty sure she was still alive, albeit knocked out, when filmed in that truck. One dude even had hand full of hair to proclaim his property. They took her back and had their way with her. No reason to take a dead person back to your lair only to behead them later. All of those fuckers need to be put down. Pretty sure they were/are taking dead Israelis to promote fake "live" hostages for negotiations. |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Tonight, the female soldier Col. (also hearing she was a Corporal) Uri Magidish was released, during a ground operation, after she was kidnapped by the terrorist organization Hamas on 7/10. The soldier was medically examined, her condition is good and she met with her family. The IDF and Shin Bet will continue to make every effort to bring about the release of the abductees https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9s2zNTXwAA1EX0?format=jpg&name=small
View Quote Good news. Wonder how they found her. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Care to explain what we're looking at to us normies? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9rYmEmXYAAyi-b?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Care to explain what we're looking at to us normies? Looks like IDF is cutting Gaza in half to obliterate the northern section by squeezing it. They told everyone to flee to the south side last 2 weeks. |
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Is it just me or does Willy's stream just seem to be a dark screen with audio commentary?
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Tonight, the female soldier Col. (also hearing she was a Corporal) Uri Magidish was released, during a ground operation, after she was kidnapped by the terrorist organization Hamas on 7/10. The soldier was medically examined, her condition is good and she met with her family. The IDF and Shin Bet will continue to make every effort to bring about the release of the abductees https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9s2zNTXwAA1EX0?format=jpg&name=small
View Quote I think that's the girl they videoed being drug out that Jeep, I may be wrong. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Care to explain what we're looking at to us normies? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9rYmEmXYAAyi-b?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Care to explain what we're looking at to us normies? The amount of intrusion by IDF into Gaza. |
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Flashback 2015: Biden Praises Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal As "A Good Deal For The World" And Israel
2015: Biden Praises Obama''s Iran Nuclear Deal As "A Good Deal For The World" And Israel |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By whiskey_bravo: That is pretty much it right now. He said it was low light, no moon and Gaza has no electricity so nothing to see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By whiskey_bravo: Originally Posted By Stillnothere: Is it just me or does Willy's stream just seem to be a dark screen with audio commentary? That is pretty much it right now. He said it was low light, no moon and Gaza has no electricity so nothing to see. Gaza has a close to full moon now. |
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