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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:49:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Nah this is a "step aside, Butch" moment for the Israelis. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: He lives in Qatar. It would have to be done in a Clinton kind of way. really wish I could believe we had a Commander In Chief that would respond "challenge accepted" Nah this is a "step aside, Butch" moment for the Israelis. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:49:56 PM EDT
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Holy crap I finally caught up in this thread.
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:50:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Click To View Spoiler They have their place in hell. May it come soon. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:50:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blu3Ridge: For what it's worth, my base just did a recall on all of our troops. Wanting to know where everyone is at. 
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: I'd prefer the Abuzer Ugerlu approach from back in the day, but I'm old fashioned like that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-: How hard would it be for the Izzies to take out the head Hammie? I'd prefer the Abuzer Ugerlu approach from back in the day, but I'm old fashioned like that. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:51:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: If you look at the life of Arafat, he was booted from multiple countries that could have just as easily taken him out to save Israel and the world from dealing with more of his BS. They chose not too, Qatar will likely follow suit. In that part of the world there is a sense or order in the chaos that we have a hard time making sense of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-: How hard would it be for the Izzies to take out the head Hammie? If they wanted to make a bold raid in Qatar where he was watching it unfold from his penthouse some gains could be had. That fucker will live on just like Arafat did to wreak havoc in a few more years when it is politically expedient. With the below demographics, he can be touched in Qatar. Qatar (Arab) nationals make up less than 15% of the total population, followed by other Arab (13%), Indian (24%), Nepali (16%), Filipino (11%) and Bangladesh and Sri Lankan (5% each). There are 250,000 Filipinos in the country, making them the third largest group of expatriates. If you look at the life of Arafat, he was booted from multiple countries that could have just as easily taken him out to save Israel and the world from dealing with more of his BS. They chose not too, Qatar will likely follow suit. In that part of the world there is a sense or order in the chaos that we have a hard time making sense of. Definitely different eras (with all that it brings) and Arafat was a very capable political animal. That is, his face was everywhere and the world knew him. That in itself is a considerably different paradigm than today. After the events of this week, the world will have the below reaction.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:52:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:52:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Bekaa Valley missile production https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/09/WhatsApp-Image-2019-09-03-at-17.26.45_800x686-e1567524708906-640x400.jpg "And here at the Quality Assurance zone, our master rocket craftsmen look over each and every rocket to make sure each and every rocket you buy is beyond spec. As our founder, Allah El Kahart's famously said, 'If my rockets wouldn't kill a Jew, I wouldn't sell them'" |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChrisLe: And from Egypt they will be flown to Cyprus and then onward to the US. Same exact thing that happened last time there was a major incursion into Gaza.... Nightmare coming soon. Love your avatar sir. Never forget. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 170Driver: That was my first thought upon reading that. Those psychotic terrorist militant motherfuckers are going to end up in our country.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 170Driver: Originally Posted By ChrisLe: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
That was my first thought upon reading that. Those psychotic terrorist militant motherfuckers are going to end up in our country. Coming to a neighborhood near you. Signed up to vote as democrats upon arrival. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:53:36 PM EDT
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We need to lease a Battleship to Israel. Park it off the coast of Gaza and let it go to work.
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smarcus: We need to lease a Battleship to Israel. Park it off the coast of Gaza and let it go to work. maybe they can mount a catapult on it to launch a10s.... |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:55:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By st0newall: im not mil. never been in mil. there are mil folks on this forum. someone with experience in ordinance wanna explain the amount it would take to level gaza? its a serious question. nukes could do it, but how much conventional munitions would be required to do it otherwise? A lot, which Israel and us easily have. A single artillery battery can effectively wipe an entire 1km grid square with only a couple dozen rounds or less. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Amir Tsarfati said there was an anonymous Orthodox Jewish man at the El Al counter buying tickets for everyone who had an IDF call-up notice yesterday. He paid for 250 tickets. ETA: it was at JFK Airport in NYC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: I don't know this for sure so anyone with more direct info, please correct me.. But it looks like reservists called up to return to Israel have to foot the bill themselves on El Al.  Looks to be around $750 for a one way ticket outta the NY metro area. ETA: it was at JFK Airport in NYC. Shalom Havir, what a mitzvah! |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:55:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Biden's team should move the population of Detroit into Gaza, and move the Hamas into Detroit. Couldn't be any worse for either place right?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Biden's team should move the population of Detroit into Gaza, and move the Hamas into Detroit. Couldn't be any worse for either place right? Not that it will achieve anything....but write your congress critters in the House and Senate and tell them you don't want them here. Offer options...they're Arabs' The Saudis, Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians, and Iranians all have land they could cede to create a Palestinian state. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:57:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smarcus: We need to lease a Battleship to Israel. Park it off the coast of Gaza and let it go to work. Do we ask everyone to pause the fighting for a few years while we refurbish one? More fantasy land bullshit. Every other post in this thread is childish crap like this. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: You are talking about Deif? He is probably in Paris living it up with champagne and hookers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By TinSpinner: Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-: How hard would it be for the Izzies to take out the head Hammie? If they wanted to make a bold raid in Qatar where he was watching it unfold from his penthouse some gains could be had. That fucker will live on just like Arafat did to wreak havoc in a few more years when it is politically expedient. With the below demographics, he can be touched in Qatar. Qatar (Arab) nationals make up less than 15% of the total population, followed by other Arab (13%), Indian (24%), Nepali (16%), Filipino (11%) and Bangladesh and Sri Lankan (5% each). There are 250,000 Filipinos in the country, making them the third largest group of expatriates. You are talking about Deif? He is probably in Paris living it up with champagne and hookers. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SavedByTheBlood: I got news for ya sunshine, some people are savages. Heck there even reports of Nazi SS soldiers taking infants from their mother’s arms and beating them against walls until dead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SavedByTheBlood: Originally Posted By DeepSky: Do they actually show the decapitated babies? I can’t see that……. Please tell me that’s not true. I got news for ya sunshine, some people are savages. Heck there even reports of Nazi SS soldiers taking infants from their mother’s arms and beating them against walls until dead. There are similar reports regarding the vaodois/waldenses, pre-reformation era. (Jeremiah 17:9) “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? ^^^ That is reality. God has to restrain each and every one of us from being as bad as we could be, or we could not have society. We are seeing what happens when a whole culture works to suppress their conscience. (I Timothy 4:1-2) [1] But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, [2] by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, Some have burned their conscience so much that it virtually doesn't function anymore. They have gone from fighting the bad impuses, or being neutral or not thinking about them ... to embracing them. Everyone is corrupt. Not everyone is truly given over to it like we are seeing. We are repulsed by them not because they are animals, but because they are humans, who have burned their conscience and treat others as not human. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: A lack of food and water solves that problem long before the explosives do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Originally Posted By st0newall: im not mil. never been in mil. there are mil folks on this forum. someone with experience in ordinance wanna explain the amount it would take to level gaza? its a serious question. nukes could do it, but how much conventional munitions would be required to do it otherwise? A lack of food and water solves that problem long before the explosives do. Getting the women and children out of the line of fire is a good thing. Turning Gaza into rubble and bulldozing it glad so they cannot ever return is even better. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/A3F3F15D-FF4C-4C3B-9C18-9770C2BD6584-2986656.jpg Got to wonder what they are going to do to take a crack at Iran. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Maybe we can send Border Patrol to the Sinai to pre-approve the mass paperwork needed. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Holy crap I finally caught up in this thread. That is no shit a task in and of itself! |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 9:59:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: If Israel just keeps the world's most annoying drone flying nonstop for a few more days, I think the Gaza residents might just move out. That is beyond fucking annoying. I don't have a good answer for what Israel should do going forward. Continuing air raids isn't going to accomplish much unless the plan is to JDAM everything in sight in all of Gaza. They aren't realistically going to get the majority of Hamas terrorists this route. They will be able to marginally disrupt them for a while, but it goes right back to square one in a few weeks with the Gaza residents even more pissed off. Ground assault. I don't think anyone has learned anything over the last 20 years. This would be a horrifically bloody battle full of IEDs and terrorists moving amongst the population (most are terrorists). What is the end goal here? If it is to kill every male between 12 and 70, sure, you will accomplish something. At great cost of IDF soldiers. It would take a long time as well and these fuckers will just move and hide and blend. Full on inhalation of Gaza. Raze every building to the ground and evict the population elsewhere. This is the only real plan that gets Israel lasting peace. It costs them very little. Most of the rest of the world is going to hate them. Most of the rest of the world already hates them. A wolf doesn't care about the opinions of the sheep. To not become the Jewish N Korea, they would have to find SOMEONE, anyone to take about 2 million worthless pieces of shit that are nothing but trouble. The rest of the Islamic world hates the Palestinians. IF Israel goes this route, the West is going to be fucked with millions of migrants who will take their terror to our streets. Israel literally said they are going to destroy every building. Israel is going Old Testament. What’s about to happen most Americans won’t be able to comprehend. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:00:12 PM EDT
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Dan Abrams of NewsNation blasted MSNBC on Monday for “victim blaming” while Anti-Defamation League chairman Jonathan Greenblatt wondered if Hamas was “writing the script” for the news channel.
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:00:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/A3F3F15D-FF4C-4C3B-9C18-9770C2BD6584-2986656.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:00:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigtwin: That is no shit a task in and of itself! |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blu3Ridge: For what it's worth, my base just did a recall on all of our troops. Wanting to know where everyone is at. What installation is that? |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:01:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 170Driver: That was my first thought upon reading that. Those psychotic terrorist militant motherfuckers are going to end up in our country. They better not bring any of them here. Frankly they need to be wiped out as a people since they choose not to be part of the civilized world. I sure as fuck don’t need them in the south. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:02:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: A lot, which Israel and us easily have. A single artillery battery can effectively wipe an entire 1km grid square with only a couple dozen rounds or less. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By st0newall: im not mil. never been in mil. there are mil folks on this forum. someone with experience in ordinance wanna explain the amount it would take to level gaza? its a serious question. nukes could do it, but how much conventional munitions would be required to do it otherwise? A lot, which Israel and us easily have. A single artillery battery can effectively wipe an entire 1km grid square with only a couple dozen rounds or less. well .. thats around 9000 arty shells. based on the size of the gaza strip. so i will have to take your word for it. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChrisLe: And from Egypt they will be flown to Cyprus and then onward to the US. Same exact thing that happened last time there was a major incursion into Gaza.... Oh good, I'm sure they'll become well integrated US citizens in no time  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:02:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DrKlahn: Thanks for the FMJ ref. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DrKlahn: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: "Well-disciplined Hamas " Thanks for the FMJ ref. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:03:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: FYI Iran denies their alleged role in the attack. I post not to dispute their involvement but because it seems to run counter to some of the headlines we've read as of recent  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNy5bfYL92MTheir puppets went too fast and they know the fate of anyone associated with this |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:03:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: US is considering deploying SECOND aircraft carrier near Israel in bid to stop other nations joining-in Hamas attacks on the Jewish state A second US aircraft carrier could be deployed to the east Mediterranean alongside another sent to the region after the attack by Hamas on Israel. The USS Gerald R. Ford, the world's largest warship, has already been mobilized along with a carrier strike group that includes other warships and a fleet of fighter jets. Military officials are now weighing whether to also send a second carrier strike group led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower. The warship was already scheduled to visit the Middle East, but Pentagon leaders are now deciding whether it should accompany the USS Gerald R. Ford. Placing both carriers and their accompanying ships in the eastern Mediterranean, close to the coast of Israel and the Gaza Strip, would amount to a massive show of force that would also serve as a deterrent against other groups who could join the conflict. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Sunday he ordered the Ford carrier strike group to be ready to assist Israel after the attack by Hamas that has left more than 1,000 dead on both sides. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/10/18/76391655-12615885-image-a-1_1696960296722.jpg The Norfolk, Virginia-based carrier strike group led by the Ford was already in the Mediterranean. Last week it was conducting naval exercises with Italy in the Ionian Sea. The carrier is in its first full deployment. It is not clear whether the Eisenhower would replace the Ford or whether both strike groups would remain there as the conflict continue. Link Do the folks here who actually have strategic insight think this is for optics, or is this a tactical action? I don't know the first thing about naval warfare strategy...seems like having the flexibility to facilitate a lot of aircraft is a good thing if you are planning to have a lot of fighters in the air space. Also seems like a lot of flexing if the only reason for doing it is to stage a show of support. I also suspect the show isnt for hamas....they certainly don't have the ability to engage us militarily. My guess is that we are doing this to send a message to our persian welfare recipients. Would love to hear from folks who actually understand naval combat. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Huge pro Palestinian rally in Jordan - https://twitter.com/i/status/1711922294027887065 |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:03:24 PM EDT
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At Pro-Israel Rally, Democrat Sen. Ed Markey Gets Booed By Crowd After Calling For "De-Escalation"
 At Pro-Israel Rally, Democrat Sen. Ed Markey Gets Booed By Crowd After Calling For "De-Escalation" |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavVet: Measured response is how I try and live life. I've been reading pay all the total annihilation responses until this. While the acts were of person or persons, their society needs to get the bill for such depravity. Their country, their government, their attack, their actions. My heart is heavy. There are war crimes and then there is this Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavVet: Originally Posted By BoomerShooter: If they killed 40 infants we should line the B-52s wing abreast and end it once and for all. Measured response is how I try and live life. I've been reading pay all the total annihilation responses until this. While the acts were of person or persons, their society needs to get the bill for such depravity. Their country, their government, their attack, their actions. My heart is heavy. There are war crimes and then there is this This is what happens because a people's thinking and behavior have become depraved - depraved to the point of being a death cult. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:03:58 PM EDT
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Some may be familiar with this shitbag already. Any way if you want to hear a fucking shitbag idiot rave about Hamas's success then here it is.
Seriously fuck this guy.  Hamas Launched Surprise OFFENSIVE on Israel |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
LOL Did they bother to get the Egyptians opinions on that plan? |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:05:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: What installation is that? Fort Nunya |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:05:40 PM EDT
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When the carrier group arrives on station, is it always moving or does it anchor?
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.reuters.com/world/senior-iraqi-political-figure-threatens-target-us-interests-if-it-backs-israel-2023-10-10/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5335_jpeg-2985998.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5336_jpeg-2985999.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5337_jpeg-2986000.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5338_jpeg-2986001.JPG We need to be tapping our resources so that these things matter not one tiny bit. This is what people refer to when we say it's stupid to buy oil from people who hate your guts. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:07:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blu3Ridge: For what it's worth, my base just did a recall on all of our troops. Wanting to know where everyone is at. I've seen the same thing going on. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:07:07 PM EDT
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All the reports of what they have done to the children coming out today has taken a toll on me
 I hope Israel destroys every single inch of the strip. Every. Fucking. Inch. Straight up scorched earth, no quarter. |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Some may be familiar with this shitbag already. Any way if you want to hear a fucking shitbag idiot rave about Hamas's success then here it is. Seriously fuck this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro-ERnn7-uoNah I’m good. I’ve seen enough terrorist supporting vermin on twitter today to last me a lifetime |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:07:37 PM EDT
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I can hear FO Rooster in the background. Sunrise in a little over an hour and a half.
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Element94: When the carrier group arrives on station, is it always moving or does it anchor? It’s moving |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Fort Nunya Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By GoldenMead: What installation is that? Fort Nunya  |
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Posted: 10/10/2023 10:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
What a piece of shit. Come on Rashida, have some balls and answer her. |
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