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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:41:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69: It does seem they all fall pretty easily. What is Israel hitting them with? BLU109 bombs with various guidance packages. Most likely a JDAM based on the targets being fixed positions and isn’t a fluid battlefield yet. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:41:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: texashomeserver]
[#2]
Hamas is claiming to have launched Long-Range R-160 Missiles at the Northern Israeli City of Haifa several minutes ago; this City is over 90 Miles from the Gaza Strip.
 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:41:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DCV_117]
[#3]
Not good if true, Hamas typically doesn't have guided weapons
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:42:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: Really low intensity so far. Well whatever those few flashes hit created a huge inferno. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:42:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: We’ll find out, been ongoing exchanges across the border since this began Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Hatari: So Lebanon is in it now? We’ll find out, been ongoing exchanges across the border since this began If Hezbollah opens second and third fronts from Lebanon and the West Bank while the IDF is focused on Gaza things could get even uglier. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:42:30 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: And? Their country, Their rules. No muslim can be armed, All Jews can be armed. Seems pretty simple to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: Originally Posted By Piratepast40: Originally Posted By craig19: The fact they have the restrictions they have is mind blowing. One third of Israeli citizens are Muslim. I don't have a solution, nor am I voicing an opinion, just pointing out that it's a potential problem. And? Their country, Their rules. No muslim can be armed, All Jews can be armed. Seems pretty simple to me. Exactly right. You only arm the Jews. Does anyone know if Israeli citizens who are Muslim are conscripted to serve in the IDF as most Jewish Israelis are? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:43:04 AM EDT
[#7]
So the recent rocket barrage in the north was part of the same tactic used in the south - send multiples preceding the ground attack, and air if you consider paragliders, which sounds like it's in process now.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:43:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chupacabras: If Hezbollah opens second and third fronts from Lebanon and the West Bank while the IDF is focused on Gaza things could get even uglier. that's why there will probably be 2 US Carriers in theater soon. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:44:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: WP is just there to produce a smoke screen, or to light shit on fire and keep it lit. HE is gonna blow shit up. Obviously, WP isn’t gonna do much to concrete structures, but vegetation, people, wooden structures, and vehicles will catch fire and stay on fire if they come in contact. HE is just high explosive, it has that immediate effect of blowing shit up, and it’s effectiveness really depends on how it’s employed. 80% or more of the boats in that harbor are wooden. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:45:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apexcrusade: So the recent rocket barrage in the north was part of the same tactic used in the south - send multiples preceding the ground attack, and air if you consider paragliders, which sounds like it's in process now. Sure would be nice if there was a aircraft carrier and a lot of missile carriers near by. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:45:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: according to wiki or google whatever i just copied and pasted. White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime. Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza. only reason i pasted that is over 2 million mostly civilians are denselely packed into gaza. a small percentage are hamas. if wp is deployed fleeing children will eventually be hit. wp burns thru anything almost and can not be put out with water or fire extinguisher iirc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: Originally Posted By kcolg30: What would be the damage yeld between the Phosphorus and the High Exp? One better than the other? More penetrating power? according to wiki or google whatever i just copied and pasted. White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime. Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza. only reason i pasted that is over 2 million mostly civilians are denselely packed into gaza. a small percentage are hamas. if wp is deployed fleeing children will eventually be hit. wp burns thru anything almost and can not be put out with water or fire extinguisher iirc. Depends on the intent of the usage, screening and obscuration are legal. The current munition they are using. The WP is impregnated into felt and although it will start fires and produce posion gas, does not really have imbedding in flesh problem like the older bursting WP. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: according to wiki or google whatever i just copied and pasted. White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime. Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza. only reason i pasted that is over 2 million mostly civilians are denselely packed into gaza. a small percentage are hamas. if wp is deployed fleeing children will eventually be hit. wp burns thru anything almost and can not be put out with water or fire extinguisher iirc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: Originally Posted By kcolg30: What would be the damage yeld between the Phosphorus and the High Exp? One better than the other? More penetrating power? according to wiki or google whatever i just copied and pasted. White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime. Human Rights Watch has said that there have been documented civilian deaths from the use of white phosphorus in war zones in countries and areas such as Syria, Afghanistan, and Gaza. only reason i pasted that is over 2 million mostly civilians are denselely packed into gaza. a small percentage are hamas. if wp is deployed fleeing children will eventually be hit. wp burns thru anything almost and can not be put out with water or fire extinguisher iirc. And that is one more terrorist that will nto be holding a gun. That is a good thing in war. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:45:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Lebanon seems to be more of a distraction than anything. I wonder if this is a diversion for the West Bank which has been pretty quiet.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:46:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt seeems like youytube is incredibly inconsistent about what war footage they allow. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:46:44 AM EDT
[#15]
Shit is escalating
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:47:24 AM EDT
[#16]
Be interested to see if the 75th and MEU gets spun up.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:47:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: temetnoscesax]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Shit is escalating
hopefully the F35s and our other aircraft get to eat. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:47:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 07Commander: Does that mean that we are immune to terrorist attacks? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 07Commander: Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By 07Commander: Originally Posted By Morlawn66: Originally Posted By Mblades: How many calls to jihad and chants of death to America did we get after our response to 9/11? How many actually materialized? Granted in 2001 we had and intelligence apparatus that was focused on stopping such things while now they are worried about us white supremacists as the “greatest threat to our democracytm” so I guess we’ll see. They weren't here in mass in 2001. We have no idea who is here now . Is this guy fucking crazy? https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html That list shows that the US over the last ~200yrs has been one of the safest places to live anywhere at any point in history. Does that mean that we are immune to terrorist attacks? Of course not. I’m not immune to shark attacks but that doesn’t keep me from swimming in the ocean. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:48:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: There was all kinds of talk about sleeper cells then and back in 93 after the first WTC bombing and gulf war 1.0. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Morlawn66: Originally Posted By Mblades: How many calls to jihad and chants of death to America did we get after our response to 9/11? How many actually materialized? Granted in 2001 we had and intelligence apparatus that was focused on stopping such things while now they are worried about us white supremacists as the “greatest threat to our democracytm” so I guess we’ll see. They weren't here in mass in 2001. We have no idea who is here now . There was all kinds of talk about sleeper cells then and back in 93 after the first WTC bombing and gulf war 1.0. Every 7-11 store clerk and Dairy Queen owner was a sleeper according to some. I did have a cab driver in Chicago that was suspect as hell. The whole inside of his cab was decorated with pro-muslim and anti everything else BS, made me wish I had a garrote in my pocket. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:49:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Morlawn66: True , we just had 8 million people w/ newly issued ID's enter the country . That's my point about in mass and no idea of who they are . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Morlawn66: Originally Posted By Mblades: There was all kinds of talk about sleeper cells then and back in 93 after the first WTC bombing and gulf war 1.0. True , we just had 8 million people w/ newly issued ID's enter the country . That's my point about in mass and no idea of who they are . You’re right it’s never been easier for a bad actor to enter the US but it’s never been impossible or even hard with a little money and planning. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:49:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: It seeems like youytube is incredibly inconsistent about what war footage they allow. It is primary moderated via algorithm, so a lot of stuff slips through. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:49:35 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69: @Whamo He claims he didn't know he was holding a pro Palestine sign. https://nypost.com/2018/08/04/cory-bookers-lame-excuse-after-holding-sign-critical-of-israel/ LOL Mkay. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:49:43 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Shit is escalating
All part of the plan. I am not an interventionist, but I think it is a possibility. However, it appears they have several steps ahead, so they might be trying to goat us in. Israel is a capable country, but more so in traditional warfare. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:50:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Spartan Shield rotation - active duty got spread thin with Korea and Ukraine and the bad recruiting so National Guard is doing most of the Iraq rotations https://www.army.mil/article/267633/40th_infantry_division_soldiers_mobilize_to_middle_east https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5452_jpeg-2987094.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5453_jpeg-2987096.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By craig19: Iraq war round 3? I'll go back, but with no ROE. Spartan Shield rotation - active duty got spread thin with Korea and Ukraine and the bad recruiting so National Guard is doing most of the Iraq rotations https://www.army.mil/article/267633/40th_infantry_division_soldiers_mobilize_to_middle_east https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5452_jpeg-2987094.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5453_jpeg-2987096.JPG Lol yea go teach the Muslims how to be tolerant. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:01 AM EDT
[#25]
 "?? ?????? ??? ?????": ????? ??"? ?????? ?? ????? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Shit is escalating
Hezbollah has a lot more military strength than Hamas. If Israel is diverted too much to Gaza then this is even worse news. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Every home with an adult? Are you sure? You know that over 20% of Israel's population is Arab right? Israeli citizens, but not Jews. I'm not saying that ALL of them might be sympathetic to Hamas/Fatah/Hezbollah - but it would not be unreasonable to assume that at least some of them are. I will clarify to every Jewish home. I was aware of Israeli Muslims but didn't think the number was that high. Do you happen to know if there are Israeli Muslims in the IDF? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:09 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FistPeso: Lebanon seems to be more of a distraction than anything. I wonder if this is a diversion for the West Bank which has been pretty quiet. PA still controls the west bank. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3one5: Does this mean wearing a plate carrier will be acceptable at Walmart now? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3one5: Does this mean wearing a plate carrier will be acceptable at Walmart now? Yes, and always has been. Walmart dress code is "Don't wear anything offensive, or do." |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Not good if true, Hamas typically doesn't have guided weapons
$6b can buy some nice upgrades |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69: @Whamo He claims he didn't know he was holding a pro Palestine sign. Oh, but he's ok with holding a sign that is critical of his own country's sovereignty??? https://nypost.com/2018/08/04/cory-bookers-lame-excuse-after-holding-sign-critical-of-israel/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69: Originally Posted By Whamo: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Does Corey still want to tear down the walls? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Is that real or shopped? Disclaimer: I don't trust anything anymore. ETA: @LurchAddams @Whamo He claims he didn't know he was holding a pro Palestine sign. Oh, but he's ok with holding a sign that is critical of his own country's sovereignty??? https://nypost.com/2018/08/04/cory-bookers-lame-excuse-after-holding-sign-critical-of-israel/ |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:51:46 AM EDT
[#32]
Any live feeds from up north?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:52:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SeanTX: LOL Mkay. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SeanTX: Originally Posted By Buzz69: @Whamo He claims he didn't know he was holding a pro Palestine sign. https://nypost.com/2018/08/04/cory-bookers-lame-excuse-after-holding-sign-critical-of-israel/ LOL Mkay. Well he is an idiot, so I guess that defense is plausible. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:52:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: texashomeserver]
[#34]
 Hezbollah has claimed at least 250,000 missiles/drones ready to launch. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:53:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117:
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:54:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnriverluver: Someone forgot to turn off the cell service in Gaza.  I always wondered why they left the cell towers standing. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:54:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miami_JBT: There's a way to solve it. Measuring Against The Linchpin Itwas a method of determining which enemy civilians would be beheaded, used by the Mongols and other tribes that lived in the Mongolian plateau. Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. See, being short like us does have advantages. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:54:38 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Shit is escalating
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:54:39 AM EDT
[#39]
To be able to watch a war unfold live, with minute to minute updates on invasions with photos and videos is crazy.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:54:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasDoubleTap: The paraglider meme may be the most valuable thing the Pali folks gain from all this.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasDoubleTap: Originally Posted By DCV_117:
... which annoys the shit out of me, because they're paramotors. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:55:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:55:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177432/81Jozb0vsGL__AC_UF894_1000_QL80__jpg-2987060.JPG That was a common meal in Afghanistan 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:55:20 AM EDT
[#43]
Translation: Hezbollah publishes scenes of the moment a gathering of Israeli soldiers was targeted near the Al-Jardah site with guided missiles
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:55:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miami_JBT: There's a way to solve it. Measuring Against The Linchpin Itwas a method of determining which enemy civilians would be beheaded, used by the Mongols and other tribes that lived in the Mongolian plateau. Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miami_JBT: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: People speak in absolutes like there is as actual victory. There is no wiping out Hamas. All Israel can do is impact their abilities for a large scale event like what happened. The tunnels, urban terrain, and multi national support create a network that will go on forever. As long as Iran can recruit people to kill Jews, there will always be a threat. That is fact. I saw this firsthand in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anything short of destroying every tunnel, clearing every house and killing every terrorist in a city of million people, then there is no wiping them out. Iran and Palestine have created a situation that can only be solved by nuclear weapons and the killing of thousands and thousands of innocent people. Measuring Against The Linchpin Itwas a method of determining which enemy civilians would be beheaded, used by the Mongols and other tribes that lived in the Mongolian plateau. Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. Genghis Khan was a genocidal rapist and warlord of extreme brutality. It is a travesty that his name is not brought up when Hitler's name is. I'm glad Israel isn't doing that. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:56:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Saltwater-Hillbilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kcolg30: What does WP and HE stand for? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kcolg30: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/10/76420303-12617483-image-a-6_1697016359756.jpg For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be 120mm mortar HE rounds. What does WP and HE stand for? WP = White Phosphorous Smoke/Incendiary (AKA "Willy Pete") HE = High Explosive (TNT, Comp B, or a plethora of other 'splodey fillers) |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:56:27 AM EDT
[#46]
Information about Hezbollah may be incorrect, we will know soon
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:56:30 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8K3AiKWYAAvFdp?format=jpg&name=900x900 Hezbollah has claimed at least 250,000 missiles/drones ready to launch. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:56:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:56:58 AM EDT
[#49]
Do the Russians still have that navel base in tartus?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 11:57:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: To be able to watch a war unfold live, with minute to minute updates on invasions with photos and videos is crazy. Thanks for the updates, man. |
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