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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:17:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:17:38 PM EDT
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Those continuing their attempt to thread slide this discussion into a referendum on former members will find themselves removed from this thread. Lets keep this on track.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KingNine: Holy crap.  Place still looks too damn good |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: This was said 15 days ago. Then the war started.. Benjamin Netanyahu tells UN that Israel is 'at the cusp' of an historic agreement with Saudi Arabia  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJUXKq2bgQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYTehyVodwoIf you wanted a proximate cause, that would be what I'd lay my money on. Iran and Qatar have no interest in Saudi Arabia and Israel cooperating and normalizing relations as an effective counter to the regional hegemony they aspire to. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crossingahead:
"Go sacrifice yourself muslim brothers!" is his message. Well, fuck... I'm sold. I mean here's a face you can trust.  |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:19:23 PM EDT
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Lots of deleted comments from good people in here by Mods.
It's not worth account warnings and locks. Don't let some idiot goad you into burning your long standing account. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:19:49 PM EDT
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Heavy artillery in Gaza for sure, along with the illumination rounds.
Sounds almost like a ground fight is going on. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:19:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Missiles subs are never in the med or area. They have thousands of miles of range. But no one's going to be lobbing mirvs next door. The scale of this area of the world is tiny. Why not? They don't have to launch nukes. Four U.S. Navy Ohio-class SSBNs were converted in the mid-2000s to be able to salvo launch up to 144 Tomahawk cruise missiles from their modified vertical launch SLBM tubes. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: Those countries needed dictators. Like I've said many times. Taking out Saddam was probably a mistake. Same with Mubarak. Same with Gaddafi. Look how well Libya and Egypt turned out. Iran loves power vacuums. It's easy pickins. The middle east without leaders is like a bar full of desperate fat girls in a bar at closing time. I tend to agree with you. Taking Gaddafi out is what kicked off much the violence in North Africa. Their weapon depots got looted and taken to places like Mali. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:22:54 PM EDT
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Translation: The moment the Al-Qassam Brigades stormed an Israeli military site east of Khan Yunis, killing and capturing those inside it.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:22:57 PM EDT
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I felt left out so I did it myself. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:23:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: I tend to agree with you. Taking Gaddafi out is what kicked off much the violence in North Africa. Their weapon depots got looted and taken to places like Mali. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: I think this has way way more potential to blow up around the world than Russia/Ukraine did. Plus that word is still going on and everything has a cumulative effect. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:24:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: [Deleted] I felt left out so I did it myself. Yes, hard sometimes to not comment 
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GBR
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: So this mofo is sitting 1100 miles away from Gaza but he's the boss. "Go sacrifice yourself muslim brothers!" is his message. Well, fuck... I'm sold. I mean here's a face you can trust. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8IC0tjXAAAP9o1?format=jpg&name=large ....looks more like a face you'd never get tired of punching!! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: [Deleted] I felt left out so I did it myself. 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:25:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NEXT23]
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NVM
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:26:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azerious58: Significantly more Muslims and Jews worldwide than Russians or Ukrainians Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azerious58: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: I think this has way way more potential to blow up around the world than Russia/Ukraine did. Plus that word is still going on and everything has a cumulative effect. More Muslims, yes. Jews however are a tiny population worldwide, around 15 million. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:26:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: I tend to agree with you. Taking Gaddafi out is what kicked off much the violence in North Africa. Their weapon depots got looted and taken to places like Mali. While I opposed OIF in 2002 for all we know the guy could have had a heart attack, then what? His sons were incompetent lunatics so no guarantees of strong man even ignoring brutality to the Kurds and his threats to US forces in the 1990s {hollow threats or not} - you got an AFEM back in the post Desert Storm Kuwait deployments while Clinton was prez. It took Russia to save Assad’s ass. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:27:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:
Yes, hard sometimes to not comment [/quote]It is but it's clear that the conversation here should be on the war. I have many thoughts on some of the comments in here butthis isn't the thread. Let's cut the mods and staff some slack and ignore some of the stuff in here. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: where is the video of 40 babies being beheaded? ive heard it was fake news then keeps getting reported. which is it? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:28:17 PM EDT
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Please stay on topic.
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USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:28:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: So this mofo is sitting 1100 miles away from Gaza but he's the boss. "Go sacrifice yourself muslim brothers!" is his message. Well, fuck... I'm sold. I mean here's a face you can trust. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8IC0tjXAAAP9o1?format=jpg&name=large Remember when Mossad violated the hell out of all sorts of laws to get to the people involved in the Munich attack all over the world? Man imagine if those guys were still around... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: and there were also kidnappings via Iran proxies too https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-kidnapping/americans-missing-in-baghdad-kidnapped-by-iran-backed-militia-idUSKCN0UX2HY https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5471_jpeg-2987197.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5472_jpeg-2987198.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Rebel31: That was guaranteed to happen. Saddam and Baath party ruled Iraq as a minority (Sunni). The majority are Shia which aligns with Iran being Shia. We dealt with terrorists from both sides in Iraq and the Iranians were there helping the Shia militias and in some cases actually fighting American soldiers. Now that Iraq is a 'democracy' the majority will align with Shia/Iranian interests and the Sunnis are a minority in government. and there were also kidnappings via Iran proxies too https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-kidnapping/americans-missing-in-baghdad-kidnapped-by-iran-backed-militia-idUSKCN0UX2HY https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5471_jpeg-2987197.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5472_jpeg-2987198.JPG Dora wouldn't have been my first choice for a residence in Baghdad. I mean, there are some nice houses there, but still.... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:29:39 PM EDT
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What's the population of Gaza? I'm guessing somewhere between 70 to 80% of its inhabitants are going to show up on the shores of Italy and France as refugees.
Egypt sure as Hell isn't going to roll out the welcome mat for their "brothers." Should send them all packing to Iran and let Iran deal with the crisis it is responsible for. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: where is the video of 40 babies being beheaded? ive heard it was fake news then keeps getting reported. which is it? If you want to see dead babies and burned bodies here is one for you. https://t.me/s/southfirstresponders we know there is lots of misinfo and propaganda during war, but the dead babies, videos and photos are legit. Not sure why the hunger to see the beheaded ones |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:31:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: What's the population of Gaza? I'm guessing somewhere between 70 to 80% of its inhabitants are going to show up on the shores of Italy and France as refugees. Egypt sure as Hell isn't going to roll out the welcome mat for their "brothers." Should send them all packing to Iran and let Iran deal with the crisis it is responsible for. Hamas is Sunni. They would never be welcome in Iran |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saddler: Originally Posted By GunGuyMP: This may seem silly, paranoid or a combination of both but with Israel about to step into Gaza things are going to happen really fast. Not saying I think anyone should go max credit cards on preps but have some simple plans in place. Start saving a little more cash. If you carry make sure you are carrying daily where you can. Have a plan with your family for what to do if you're away from home and shit gets sideways. Have a plan for what to do if shit goes sideways too close to home. Just simple shit like that can go a long way. Things are going to get crazy in the next 48 hours. This war is undoubtedly going to expand beyond Israel and Hamas. To what extent nobody knows. Domestically there are a lot of people that sympathize with this disgusting behavior and will want to lash out at US support for Israel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsMc-IswG3w Getting Supplies Scene | Red Dawn (1984) |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: What's the population of Gaza? I'm guessing somewhere between 70 to 80% of its inhabitants are going to show up on the shores of Italy and France as refugees. Egypt sure as Hell isn't going to roll out the welcome mat for their "brothers." Should send them all packing to Iran and let Iran deal with the crisis it is responsible for. Vast swaths of land all over the MidEast, yet the Muzzies can't find 100 square miles. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:32:38 PM EDT
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NATO is worthless
Aljazeera: NATO’s Stoltenberg says he expects Israel to respond proportionately to Hamas attack NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says that while Israel has the right to defend itself against attacks, he expects the response to Hamas’ weekend assault to be proportionate. “(I) expect that of course when we see Israel responses it will be proportionate and it is important as this conflict continues to do whatever is possible to prevent the loss of innocent civilian lives”, he tells reporters. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:33:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-turkey-iraq-baghdad-7488a761ef3fc1115a2307701d4be50c https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5466_jpeg-2987192.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5467_jpeg-2987193.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5468_jpeg-2987194.JPG What kind of tourist goes to Iraq? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:33:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: What's the population of Gaza? I'm guessing somewhere between 70 to 80% of its inhabitants are going to show up on the shores of Italy and France as refugees. Egypt sure as Hell isn't going to roll out the welcome mat for their "brothers." Should send them all packing to Iran and let Iran deal with the crisis it is responsible for. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curdmugeon45: Remember when Mossad violated the hell out of all sorts of laws to get to the people involved in the Munich attack all over the world? Man imagine if those guys were still around... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curdmugeon45: Originally Posted By AlamTX: So this mofo is sitting 1100 miles away from Gaza but he's the boss. "Go sacrifice yourself muslim brothers!" is his message. Well, fuck... I'm sold. I mean here's a face you can trust. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8IC0tjXAAAP9o1?format=jpg&name=large Remember when Mossad violated the hell out of all sorts of laws to get to the people involved in the Munich attack all over the world? Man imagine if those guys were still around... Baader-Meinhof/Red Brigade got completely yeeted IIRC. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:34:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: NATO is worthless Aljazeera: NATO's Stoltenberg says he expects Israel to respond proportionately to Hamas attack NATO's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says that while Israel has the right to defend itself against attacks, he expects the response to Hamas' weekend assault to be proportionate. "(I) expect that of course when we see Israel responses it will be proportionate and it is important as this conflict continues to do whatever is possible to prevent the loss of innocent civilian lives", he tells reporters. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JWnTN: What kind of tourist goes to Iraq? Someone with a death wish, maybe? 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:34:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: scuba_steve]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: NATO is worthless Aljazeera: NATO’s Stoltenberg says he expects Israel to respond proportionately to Hamas attack NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says that while Israel has the right to defend itself against attacks, he expects the response to Hamas’ weekend assault to be proportionate. “(I) expect that of course when we see Israel responses it will be proportionate and it is important as this conflict continues to do whatever is possible to prevent the loss of innocent civilian lives”, he tells reporters. Someone should tell him what "proportionally" means. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azerious58: Significantly more Muslims and Jews worldwide than Russians or Ukrainians Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azerious58: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: I think this has way way more potential to blow up around the world than Russia/Ukraine did. Plus that word is still going on and everything has a cumulative effect. There are also Russian and Ukrainian Jews. I believe one or both of the couple that went to Valhalla protecting their kids were of Uke descent and even had Ukrainian citizenship. Probably having a beer with the Uke sapper who detonated the bridge, himself and the attacking Russian column..... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:35:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: NATO is worthless Aljazeera: NATO’s Stoltenberg says he expects Israel to respond proportionately to Hamas attack NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says that while Israel has the right to defend itself against attacks, he expects the response to Hamas’ weekend assault to be proportionate. “(I) expect that of course when we see Israel responses it will be proportionate and it is important as this conflict continues to do whatever is possible to prevent the loss of innocent civilian lives”, he tells reporters. Not much different than what the IDF spokesman said last night. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:35:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m35ben]
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A brief overview of what is going on.
https://youtu.be/XaAXac-w_9o?si=UgmgP9YCQKhaop0r  Israel - Gaza War Map (Oct 11th) |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:35:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: @Whamo The pic is real. When they called him out, he said he didn't know it was a pro-Palestine sign. https://theintercept.com/2018/08/07/cory-booker-israel-palestine/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By Whamo: Is that real or shopped? Disclaimer: I don't trust anything anymore. ETA: @LurchAddams The pic is real. When they called him out, he said he didn't know it was a pro-Palestine sign. https://theintercept.com/2018/08/07/cory-booker-israel-palestine/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Only a total moron would hold up a sign not understanding the message. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:36:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: What's the population of Gaza? I'm guessing somewhere between 70 to 80% of its inhabitants are going to show up on the shores of Italy and France as refugees. Egypt sure as Hell isn't going to roll out the welcome mat for their "brothers." Should send them all packing to Iran and let Iran deal with the crisis it is responsible for. You'll probably get some refugees in Michigan in a few months |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:37:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:37:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Only a total moron would hold up a sign not understanding the message. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By Whamo: Is that real or shopped? Disclaimer: I don't trust anything anymore. ETA: @LurchAddams The pic is real. When they called him out, he said he didn't know it was a pro-Palestine sign. https://theintercept.com/2018/08/07/cory-booker-israel-palestine/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Only a total moron would hold up a sign not understanding the message. Or pull a fire alarm to open a door. It’s all so tiresome |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:37:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Saltwater-Hillbilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By azerious58: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: I think this has way way more potential to blow up around the world than Russia/Ukraine did. Plus that word is still going on and everything has a cumulative effect. . There are also Russian and Ukrainian Jews and Muslims. I believe one or both of the couple that went to Valhalla protecting their kids were of Uke descent and even had Ukrainian citizenship. Probably having a beer with the Uke sapper who detonated the bridge, himself and the attacking Russian column.... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JWnTN: What kind of tourist goes to Iraq? There is some really cool ancient sites. Some of the oldest in the world. Also, some people like to visit war-torn, 3rd world shitholes for some reason. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:37:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Only a total moron would hold up a sign not understanding the message. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By Whamo: Is that real or shopped? Disclaimer: I don't trust anything anymore. ETA: @LurchAddams The pic is real. When they called him out, he said he didn't know it was a pro-Palestine sign. https://theintercept.com/2018/08/07/cory-booker-israel-palestine/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Only a total moron would hold up a sign not understanding the message. So... Corey Booker? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 1:37:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Vast swaths of land all over the MidEast, yet the Muzzies can't find 100 square miles. Aye - it's almost as if they don't want the problem to go away. Strange that.... |
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