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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Amped: In on 300 Originally Posted By gpoman: 300 You guys are a little fast to pull the trigger...  C'mon man! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Something is wrong with the Iranian nexus reporting and statements from various gov't authorities. Hamas copped to them being involved and providing support. Early statements from Iran copped to it. Now there is daylight being made and outright denials/surprise being floated. Did the IRGC do something in a box away from view of the mullahs? Is this a play for containing the conflict? Something fucky is going on. IMO Hamas succeeded in away they had not expected to. Iran knows this is bad press despite muh-Muslim alliance. Obama/Biden know it's bad news for them as they have supported Iran. People know to shift the narrative and make things up that sell them being clueless when they are responsible. Hence the State Department's statement today that literally said Iran was just as surprised as everyone else. Depending on the blow back they may even "remove" certain commanders but honestly, putting blame on any one of their people would be stupid. Just play dumb and know Obama/Biden will play dumb with you. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:25 PM EDT
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SPARTA!
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:35 PM EDT
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This thread is difficult enough to keep up with without people calling “durrrr page 87878787”
Go post whore somewhere else. I doubt very many people here are in the mood. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aspida1776]
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Now you can say it
 I think all sides are figuring out that this time is different. The muslims are emboldened by the financial backing. I thinks that the Israelis are very pissed and with weak Joe and Salty Netanyahu, this may escalate beyond the usual tit for tat that we've seen for the last 30 years or so. We shall see. Until then... 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:44 PM EDT
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Fo Rooster is in on 300
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Everything you wrote appears to me to line up with what I know to be factual, but still this one feels different. Can’t tell you what it is or why, but I feel it and so does most everybody posting in this thread. No army is built for Stalingrad, and that’s what Gaza is. Stalingrad v2.0 without the cold but with drones, it’s truly the stuff of nightmares. The IDF is not going to occupy Gaza, but it doesn’t have to. All it has to do is keep everyone in. I believe we are witnessing a siege. Walls on 3 sides, ocean on the other. No lights, no food, no water. A man made zombie apocalypse. No need to invade, all they have to do is control the perimeter of the Gaza Strip and it keeps their army free to fight on another front. If I’m right, the question becomes will this intentional human catastrophe gin up enough support in the Arab countries to come to the aid of the Palestinians for the purposes of Iran in time to save the lives of everyone inside the perimeter? That land has seen the rise and fall of countless, nameless tribes and lots that we know of. All of them suffered some sort of snuffing out. We may be watching the latest one get snuffed out. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Listening to these live streams with intermittent explosions makes me wonder what Verdun or Somme would have been like. You think the occasional bombing run or airplane flying over is disruptive? How about listening to shells explode constantly for months on end. Over 8,000 shells were fired PER HOUR in Verdun for 10 straight months! War certainly has changed, but people haven't... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:05:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The Israeli airstrike on Khan Yunis aftermath. Unusually deep hole. https://twitter.com/i/status/1712244388229746762 Looks like a missed opportunity for dropping another one. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:05:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Amped: In on 300 So close |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:05:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skywarner: Bulldoze it all into the sea to create an additional mile of waterfront property. Build resorts and skyscrapers. Profit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skywarner: Originally Posted By planemaker: It occurs to me if Israel doesn't take control of Gaza, they'll have the same problem in perpetuity. Once the majority of Hamas have been cleared via bombardment, start from the end farthest away from Egypt and level then bulldoze block by block. Turn the whole area back into a productive zone for Israelis. No more Hamas, no more Gaza, one less attack vector. Bulldoze it all into the sea to create an additional mile of waterfront property. Build resorts and skyscrapers. Profit. May not be as hard as it looks… the majority of those buildings look like typical hadji builds, they just don’t know how to get the right concrete mix, wrong kind of sand, the Israelis control the good cement yards, they only go up a few stories, no elevators, shitty electrical, crappy plumbing. I imagine the high rises are built by foreign contractors brought in and paid for by US or the EU |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:05:52 PM EDT
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I am a Jew. My grandparents immigrated here to escape the Nazis. I had a Bar Mitzvah, the whole deal. I am a Christian now, but ethnically Jewish. I take this very personally. If I get heated or angry, I apologize. I am pretty good at controlling my emotions, but I am very distraught about this
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:06:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: burkeva]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CzechMate5: This thread is difficult enough to keep up with without people calling “durrrr page 87878787” Go post whore somewhere else. I doubt very many people here are in the mood. You heard karen, stop it! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:06:09 PM EDT
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Link
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:06:51 PM EDT
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In on 300!
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:06:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wgjhsafT: IMO Hamas succeeded in away they had not expected to. Iran knows this is bad press despite muh-Muslim alliance. Obama/Biden know it's bad news for them as they have supported Iran. People know to shift the narrative and make things up that sell them being clueless when they are responsible. Hence the State Department's statement today that literally said Iran was just as surprised as everyone else. Depending on the blow back they may even "remove" certain commanders but honestly, putting blame on any one of their people would be stupid. Just play dumb and know Obama/Biden will play dumb with you. Concur |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:07:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1969iggy: I would normally take the opportunity to make fun of Binden for the way he was speaking, but i don't know what he's seen, and i can only imagine how i'd react on live national TV had i seen what i think he's saying he's seen. This one time, i'll cut him a break. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1969iggy: Originally Posted By Chokey:
I would normally take the opportunity to make fun of Binden for the way he was speaking, but i don't know what he's seen, and i can only imagine how i'd react on live national TV had i seen what i think he's saying he's seen. This one time, i'll cut him a break. Fuck dementia Joe. He should be up there angry as hell. Leader of the free world and he seems lost as hell like normal. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:07:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Cathage didn't have theater ballistic missiles. No, but they snuck terrorist elephants over the alps. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:07:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CzechMate5: This thread is difficult enough to keep up with without people calling “durrrr page 87878787” Go post whore somewhere else. I doubt very many people here are in the mood. Hey, you made it to page 300!! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: They've got to be somewhere, and I don't want them here. I think a nice gated community, just outside of Tehran. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:08:45 PM EDT
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What are the Hammies trying to accomplish?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Cathage didn't have theater ballistic missiles. I dunno, Hannibal theater'd himself into Italy and killed as many people as a nuke. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: I am a Jew. My grandparents immigrated here to escape the Nazis. I had a Bar Mitzvah, the whole deal. I am a Christian now, but ethnically Jewish. I take this very personally. If I get heated or angry, I apologize. I am pretty good at controlling my emotions, but I am very distraught about this 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: I am a Jew. My grandparents immigrated here to escape the Nazis. I had a Bar Mitzvah, the whole deal. I am a Christian now, but ethnically Jewish. I take this very personally. If I get heated or angry, I apologize. I am pretty good at controlling my emotions, but I am very distraught about this All range of emotions since the news broke. Shalom. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustedAce: I dunno, Hannibal theater'd himself into Italy and killed as many people as a nuke.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burkeva: You heard karen, stop it! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burkeva: Originally Posted By CzechMate5: This thread is difficult enough to keep up with without people calling “durrrr page 87878787” Go post whore somewhere else. I doubt very many people here are in the mood. You heard karen, stop it! It's Mizz Karen |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:10:33 PM EDT
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Automatic fire on the live feed.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:10:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Something is wrong with the Iranian nexus reporting and statements from various gov't authorities. Hamas copped to them being involved and providing support. Early statements from Iran copped to it. Now there is daylight being made and outright denials/surprise being floated. Did the IRGC do something in a box away from view of the mullahs? Is this a play for containing the conflict? Something fucky is going on. If Iran made a 180 and has now hung Hamas out to dry it is because there were likely VERY real threats made behind closed doors. Essentially, 'if you dont step out of this we will fucking kill all of you [enter pictures of assets being ready to go].' It could also be that Iran did not know the extent of what Hamas would do and has had an 'Oh shit we done fucked up' moment and dont want the world using them as a new bombing range with how much their population hates their guts. Could be quite a few things. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:11:12 PM EDT
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Sounds like machinegun fire in the distance on one of the live feeds a minute ago.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:11:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheYellowThing: Quite a few here are feeling the same emotions. All range of emotions since the news broke. Shalom. Shalom my brother |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:12:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Morlawn66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The Israeli airstrike on Khan Yunis aftermath. Unusually deep hole. https://twitter.com/i/status/1712244388229746762 Might have found a tunnel . Pictures of the tunnel system don't look like it has a lot of structural integrity especially during bombing . A precast concrete arch top and precast side panels w/ little lateral support as I can't see an attachment point at top of panel to the arch top , would have to be a plate or cleat on the outside of the panel . Must be a cottage industry in Gaza . Kind of wonder if install was done during open cut sanitary sewer work versus a driven tunnel in soft ground . Anybody know any details ? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:12:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:13:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:13:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:13:52 PM EDT
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Fo Rooster is awake!
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: But not accurate. The missile that sparked the Forrestal disaster didn't come off his aircraft. In fact, it very nearly killed him. Not a McCain fan, but be fair. But, many mil leaders in that theater believe he sold them out. Many believe he got a lot of US mil killed. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:14:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Fo Rooster is awake! link |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:15:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The Israeli airstrike on Khan Yunis aftermath. Unusually deep hole. https://twitter.com/i/status/1712244388229746762 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:15:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:15:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sh768: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2007/03/22/23003.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:15:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Fo Rooster is awake! Plus, I want to hear the super-loud drone that you all have been talking about. Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The Israeli airstrike on Khan Yunis aftermath. Unusually deep hole. https://twitter.com/i/status/1712244388229746762 I'm trying to decide which is less helpful in an emergency: Arabs ragdolling your limp body in an attempt to "help," or a black woman screaming randomly and clapping her hands. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:16:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Fo Rooster is awake!  Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:16:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9: @Skywarner, what comes next? I'm genuinely curious. Minimally, a regional war. At worst, multi-theatre wars across the globe. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak:
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabre_kc: Everything you wrote appears to me to line up with what I know to be factual, but still this one feels different. Can’t tell you what it is or why, but I feel it and so does most everybody posting in this thread. No army is built for Stalingrad, and that’s what Gaza is. Stalingrad v2.0 without the cold but with drones, it’s truly the stuff of nightmares. The IDF is not going to occupy Gaza, but it doesn’t have to. All it has to do is keep everyone in. I believe we are witnessing a siege. Walls on 3 sides, ocean on the other. No lights, no food, no water. A man made zombie apocalypse. No need to invade, all they have to do is control the perimeter of the Gaza Strip and it keeps their army free to fight on another front. If I’m right, the question becomes will this intentional human catastrophe gin up enough support in the Arab countries to come to the aid of the Palestinians for the purposes of Iran in time to save the lives of everyone inside the perimeter? That land has seen the rise and fall of countless, nameless tribes and lots that we know of. All of them suffered some sort of snuffing out. We may be watching the latest one get snuffed out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabre_kc: Originally Posted By METT-T: Everything you wrote appears to me to line up with what I know to be factual, but still this one feels different. Can’t tell you what it is or why, but I feel it and so does most everybody posting in this thread. No army is built for Stalingrad, and that’s what Gaza is. Stalingrad v2.0 without the cold but with drones, it’s truly the stuff of nightmares. The IDF is not going to occupy Gaza, but it doesn’t have to. All it has to do is keep everyone in. I believe we are witnessing a siege. Walls on 3 sides, ocean on the other. No lights, no food, no water. A man made zombie apocalypse. No need to invade, all they have to do is control the perimeter of the Gaza Strip and it keeps their army free to fight on another front. If I’m right, the question becomes will this intentional human catastrophe gin up enough support in the Arab countries to come to the aid of the Palestinians for the purposes of Iran in time to save the lives of everyone inside the perimeter? That land has seen the rise and fall of countless, nameless tribes and lots that we know of. All of them suffered some sort of snuffing out. We may be watching the latest one get snuffed out. 3 Days without water 3 Weeks without food Curious, let's suppose for argument's sake that IDF really sticks to their guns here and lays complete siege to gaza, no food or water. And, even after international outcry and seeing images of emaciated, starving jihadis in the rubble, they are successful at literally snuffing out hamas. (the leaders are elsewhere, of course, because they're cowards) What effect would that have on the world? With 2/3 major terrorist organizations basically gone, leaving hezbollah, what would the world look like after? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: I am a Jew. My grandparents immigrated here to escape the Nazis. I had a Bar Mitzvah, the whole deal. I am a Christian now, but ethnically Jewish. I take this very personally. If I get heated or angry, I apologize. I am pretty good at controlling my emotions, but I am very distraught about this We all are, brother. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:17:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak:
Cant blame them for not wanting those shit bags in their country, Most places arent as eager as the US to accept human garbage. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nightstalker32: Any updates on the overall fighting? Is Hamas still hitting targets and hold ground or are they purely on the run and in hiding? All Israeli territory is reportedly under Israeli control. That signified to many folks that ground operations would start in Gaza, but I believe it will be a little longer before that kicks off. The 24-48 hour timeline given a while back seemed a little rushed. |
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