[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Issa subpoenas ATF (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/21/2014 9:42:59 AM EDT
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/21/issa-subpoenas-atf-over-mismanaged-gun-operation/?intcmp=latestnews
Rep. Darrell Issa has subpoenaed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for information about what he calls a "dangerously mismanaged" program, which originally was launched to get crime guns off the street.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which Issa chairs, has been looking into complaints about the program for months. Under the operation, ATF agents set up storefronts in multiple cities to try and entice criminals to sell their crime guns, unwittingly, to the government so they could be traced. But their tactics and missteps, including using mentally disabled people, drew criticism. Issa, R-Calif., claimed this week that the ATF has stonewalled him by withholding documents and shown a "complete lack of cooperation." "I have no choice today but to issue the enclosed subpoena," he wrote to ATF Director B. Todd Jones. "... The time for hollow promises is over." 
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How long before Issa has a heart attack? Nah, he'll wind up committing Italian Suicide. He'll stab himself in the back 5 or 6 times and then throw himself off a 4th story roof. |
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Quoted: Nah, he'll wind up committing Italian Suicide. He'll stab himself in the back 5 or 6 times and then throw himself off a 4th story roof. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How long before Issa has a heart attack? Nah, he'll wind up committing Italian Suicide. He'll stab himself in the back 5 or 6 times and then throw himself off a 4th story roof. That's dedication. |
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Where have I heard all these threats before? Hmm mm Someone doing something, is better than no one doing anything. It at least serves as a friendly reminder that he isn't going to make what they do easy. You can give some people a billion dollars, and they'd still find something to bitch about. |
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Really strange how the ATF suddenly started using all these new "crime-stoppingcreating" techniques the second that Democrats are in charge of the operations...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/18/judge-slams-atf-stash-house-stings/6565179/ |
| Serious question here, forgive my ignorance, but has there ever been one of these Congressional hearings that ever resulted in anything more than a slap on the wrist? That IRS lady needs to be standing trial for treason, and the head of the ATF needs to be standing trial for running a criminal organization, but instead they just go into some stupid hearing and lie or plead the fifth and that's the end of it. |
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Someone doing something, is better than no one doing anything. It at least serves as a friendly reminder that he isn't going to make what they do easy. You can give some people a billion dollars, and they'd still find something to bitch about. Quoted:
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Where have I heard all these threats before? Hmm mm Someone doing something, is better than no one doing anything. It at least serves as a friendly reminder that he isn't going to make what they do easy. You can give some people a billion dollars, and they'd still find something to bitch about. This While the F&F inquiries have yet to yield the justice that is deserved, it has shed more light on the subject then otherwise would have been. And perhaps more importantly, it has shown us what politicians and public figures we can count on to be unwavering truth seekers....and which ones just pay lip service and maintain the status quo... |
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WTF is a crime gun? Can't anybody call it what it is? Criminals are the problem, not guns. Lock them up and be done with it, like in the old days. No getting out on good behavior, no getting out for being a stool pigeon, you get out when your sentence is up, period. 20 years is 20 years, not out in 5 because you were good. |
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How long before Issa has a heart attack? That won't be necessary. His chairmanship ends when this Congress adjourns. Since there are elections this year there won't be sufficient time to actually do anything about looking into this matter. Like the hearing on the IRS, this is all about convincing the base that the party is doing something about issues which the base cares about. As is always the case, the party wants money and votes. |
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Someone doing something, is better than no one doing anything. It at least serves as a friendly reminder that he isn't going to make what they do easy. You can give some people a billion dollars, and they'd still find something to bitch about. Quoted:
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Where have I heard all these threats before? Hmm mm Someone doing something, is better than no one doing anything. It at least serves as a friendly reminder that he isn't going to make what they do easy. You can give some people a billion dollars, and they'd still find something to bitch about. You are correct. If you went to the next Cola warrior event and handed out $10.00 bills, many would complain that they wanted 2 fives. |
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Quoted: Serious question here, forgive my ignorance, but has there ever been one of these Congressional hearings that ever resulted in anything more than a slap on the wrist? That IRS lady needs to be standing trial for treason, and the head of the ATF needs to be standing trial for running a criminal organization, but instead they just go into some stupid hearing and lie or plead the fifth and that's the end of it. ...pretty much  This country is in deep , serous trouble and corroding from within at a scary , exponential rate . Im not even remotely expecting ANYTHING to happen , but here's to Issa  he certainly is trying |
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Quoted: Gets audited. A love child. NSA recording of him Quoted: Quoted: How long before Issa has a heart attack? Gets audited. A love child. NSA recording of him Can someone , anyone ...a total stranger even , take out an insurance policy on a politician ? Might be a wise gamble . I wonder if Vegas or St Louis are laying odds on him yet ? |
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What do you mean nowhere? After all Fast and Furious prosecution was a raging success . . . . oh wait your are right 
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I have a feeling this will go nowhere... What do you mean nowhere? After all Fast and Furious prosecution was a raging success . . . . oh wait your are right
yea but the IRS scandal was a raging..... oh i see your point.
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WTF is a crime gun? Can't anybody call it what it is? Criminals are the problem, not guns. Lock them up and be done with it, like in the old days. No getting out on good behavior, no getting out for being a stool pigeon, you get out when your sentence is up, period. 20 years is 20 years, not out in 5 because you were good. This |
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WTF is a crime gun? Can't anybody call it what it is? Criminals are the problem, not guns. Lock them up and be done with it, like in the old days. No getting out on good behavior, no getting out for being a stool pigeon, you get out when your sentence is up, period. 20 years is 20 years, not out in 5 because you were good. I don't think we are letting them out because they have been good. It's cause we are out of room for the ones already locked up. Frankly I think we need to dispose of the ones who are guilty as all hell and have life sentences. Plus bringing back corporal punishment. A lot of criminals don't see jail as much of a punishment because they are used to it and have friends there. I don't think there are many people who will not mind getting the shit beaten out of them with a bull whip or whatever. Seems like more justice for the victims than just warehousing dirtbags. |
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Nah, he'll wind up committing Italian Suicide. He'll stab himself in the back 5 or 6 times and then throw himself off a 4th story roof. Quoted:
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How long before Issa has a heart attack? Nah, he'll wind up committing Italian Suicide. He'll stab himself in the back 5 or 6 times and then throw himself off a 4th story roof. Naah, they will find something, anything to indict him on. All these guys have some dirt on them and if they don't, some will be manufactured. Issa is a businessman, surely there is some tax, labor or enviornmental law he has violated that they can nail him with. Or create a PAC, funded with DNC money, gathered via some form of illegal bundling, donate the money to his reelection campaign and nail him once it is accepted. |
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Quoted: I will bet my entire life's savings it will go nowhere. They never do. Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling this will go nowhere... I will bet my entire life's savings it will go nowhere. They never do. |
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Quoted: Naah, they will find something, anything to indict him on. All these guys have some dirt on them and if they don't, some will be manufactured. Issa is a businessman, surely there is some tax, labor or enviornmental law he has violated that they can nail him with. Or create a PAC, funded with DNC money, gathered via some form of illegal bundling, donate the money to his reelection campaign and nail him once it is accepted. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How long before Issa has a heart attack? Nah, he'll wind up committing Italian Suicide. He'll stab himself in the back 5 or 6 times and then throw himself off a 4th story roof. Naah, they will find something, anything to indict him on. All these guys have some dirt on them and if they don't, some will be manufactured. Issa is a businessman, surely there is some tax, labor or enviornmental law he has violated that they can nail him with. Or create a PAC, funded with DNC money, gathered via some form of illegal bundling, donate the money to his reelection campaign and nail him once it is accepted. |
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Issa loves starting shit, but he just can't quite get the shit finished. The way he is all back slaps and hand shakes with the very people he is supposedly investigating when he thinks the cameras aren't on him leads me to believe these investigations only go as far as they are supposed to. |
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Serious question here, forgive my ignorance, but has there ever been one of these Congressional hearings that ever resulted in anything more than a slap on the wrist? That IRS lady needs to be standing trial for treason, and the head of the ATF needs to be standing trial for running a criminal organization, but instead they just go into some stupid hearing and lie or plead the fifth and that's the end of it. Fun isn't it? And people actually wonder why no one has any faith in the government. |
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Serious question here, forgive my ignorance, but has there ever been one of these Congressional hearings that ever resulted in anything more than a slap on the wrist?. Not since Nixon. And unlike Nixon, this administration has no sense of right and wrong that is anywhere close to "middle America", nor a belief that the office of POTUS shouldn't get soiled. |