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4/11/2023 8:44:05 PM EDT
[#1]
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Originally Posted By CFII:
Mine (FXD) is running about 4 seconds fast, face up on the nightstand when not in use.
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Has it been the primary or you rotating pieces?

Try this:

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/12/2023 3:21:20 PM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Has it been the primary or you rotating pieces?

Try this:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/Screen_Shot_2023-04-11_at_7_43_23_PM-2779074.png
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So you’re saying the reason my BB58 runs slow is because I wear it at night?

I guess I’ll try the advice in the picture. Thanks!
Happiness is the greatest agent of purification

Bikini Bottoms underneath, but the boys hearts still skip a beat, when them girls shimmy off, them old cut offs
4/12/2023 3:47:14 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By redfish86:


So you’re saying the reason my BB58 runs slow is because I wear it at night?

I guess I’ll try the advice in the picture. Thanks!
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Sleep with it on?

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/12/2023 11:41:09 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Sleep with it on?

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Yessir
Happiness is the greatest agent of purification

Bikini Bottoms underneath, but the boys hearts still skip a beat, when them girls shimmy off, them old cut offs
4/14/2023 4:05:39 PM EDT
[#5]
So I won’t wear most watch heads on non shoulderless spring bars.

Learned this lesson with my 114060 Sub, it landed on the couch so I came up with an idea.

Any watch can be fixed lug for NATO’s.

All you need is a set of shoulderless springbars and some snips.

Want to go back to whatever? Snip em in two spots and they fall out.



Splendid on a 21mm C&B premium.

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/14/2023 8:52:46 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
So I won’t wear most watch heads on non shoulderless spring bars.

Learned this lesson with my 114060 Sub, it landed on the couch so I came up with an idea.

Any watch can be fixed lug for NATO’s.

All you need is a set of shoulderless springbars and some snips.

Want to go back to whatever? Snip em in two spots and they fall out.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/5D2461E9-206E-45A2-ACAB-506AB3961C31-2782326.jpg

Splendid on a 21mm C&B premium.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/85BE39BE-C40B-410D-B070-CDC96D8E2C90-2782328.jpg
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Very interesting idea! I rarely wear my divers on a bracelet. I’m gonna try this sometime
4/16/2023 12:36:33 PM EDT
[#7]
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/16/2023 1:05:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Does it actually measure 39mm ? got any calipers ?
"If your going through hell, keep going" Winston Churchill ...... and bring your AK-47
4/16/2023 1:40:40 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By hapjack:
Does it actually measure 39mm ? got any calipers ?
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39.8mm across the bezel.

38.8mm across the case (1:00-7:00), right at 39mm on some other directions but it’s a tricky baseline to pick.

11.8mm thick.

46.7mm LTL.

It’s a true 39 IMO.

Still stand by my assertion this is a modern evolution of the 1680/5513/7016
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/16/2023 3:13:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Tudor accuracy, pretty damn impressive! My BB58 since you got me hooked on that app @Finslayer83 . The one spike at the end (+1.8sec) was the day I wore my Willard and left the 58 on my nightstand dial up.

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4/16/2023 3:27:09 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By 5thLegion:
Tudor accuracy, pretty damn impressive! My BB58 since you got me hooked on that app @Finslayer83 . The one spike at the end (+1.8sec) was the day I wore my Willard and left the 58 on my nightstand dial up.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/112468/C3E15787-5AF9-491A-8715-44378A6A2F8F_jpe-2785022.JPG
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Nice!

Just checked here as well

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/16/2023 3:49:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Very nice! Congratulations op!
“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”
4/17/2023 1:20:53 AM EDT
[#13]
@Finslayer83

Got a line on an AD with stock?

Been waitlisted for a 39 for 3 months now with no end in sight.
Chatting up my sales girl at the local AD weekly and told soon but no firm date.
4/17/2023 6:49:44 AM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By Duke117:
@Finslayer83

Got a line on an AD with stock?

Been waitlisted for a 39 for 3 months now with no end in sight.
Chatting up my sales girl at the local AD weekly and told soon but no firm date.
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I was on “the list” for most of last year, life happened and I forgot about it. Called up in January and my sales guy said “bring me a deposit and I’ll get it 8-12 weeks”.

Per him, they are getting basically one a quarter. I did put my name on a list with an AD in Alabama - they called last week, told them to call the next in line!

I’ll ask my guy and I think they are starting to arrive in batches.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
4/17/2023 10:48:23 AM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


I was on “the list” for most of last year, life happened and I forgot about it. Called up in January and my sales guy said “bring me a deposit and I’ll get it 8-12 weeks”.

Per him, they are getting basically one a quarter. I did put my name on a list with an AD in Alabama - they called last week, told them to call the next in line!

I’ll ask my guy and I think they are starting to arrive in batches.
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Thank you.
4/25/2023 7:54:47 PM EDT
[#16]
Not shabby. I’ll take it

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/1/2023 11:13:48 AM EDT
[#17]
Almost at 30 days.

Then my findings.

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/2/2023 8:47:25 AM EDT
[#18]
I'm just going to say it.....

The Pelagos is what the Submariner should have been.

5/2/2023 9:00:20 AM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By Jack19:
I'm just going to say it.....

The Pelagos is what the Submariner should have been.

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Correction, the Pelagos is what the Submariner used to be.
5/2/2023 9:39:01 AM EDT
[#20]
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Originally Posted By x_red_beard_x:


Correction, the Pelagos is what the Submariner used to be.
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Originally Posted By x_red_beard_x:
Originally Posted By Jack19:
I'm just going to say it.....

The Pelagos is what the Submariner should have been.



Correction, the Pelagos is what the Submariner used to be.


Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/3/2023 11:06:49 PM EDT
[#21]


Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/4/2023 9:28:40 PM EDT
[#22]
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Very respectable. I would rather have a piece that gains 1 spd vs loses .5 spd personally.
5/6/2023 3:02:39 PM EDT
[#23]
FU Finslayer! You’re gonna cost me some $$. I love that watch. It’s gonna be my next watch. Don’t “need” it, but who needs a fancy watch anyway. Thanks for posting the pics and the review.
5/7/2023 10:15:31 AM EDT
[#24]
30 days has come and gone.

General overview:

If you like titanium and you like design cues / history from Rolex and Tudor divers of the past, this is the best dive watch on the market under $10k.

- over the 124060 -

Yup, put both in front of me for the same cost, I'll take the Pelagos 39.

Personal thoughts:

If I could design the perfect watch (for me) with the disposal of Rolex / Tudor engineering staff - it would be the Pelagos 39 with the following changes:
- drilled lugs
- matte dial

We can't get everything we want in life so I'll happily accept the Pelagos 39 as the closest thing available to what I consider dive watch perfection.

The dial is actually fun, it can be a matte ink black or warm with a sheen to it. My preference would be for matte but it's by no means a deal breaker. When it comes to the bezel I really have grown to love it. It goes from a rich dark black to the faded grey that is often seen on older aluminum bezel subs.

I was annoyed with the 21mm lugs at first, but after using both NATOs and the bracelet - the bracelet is just too good. So remove that concern from the list.

If you are in the market or on the fence, you can't go wrong with one. Might even sell the ole Sub to get a FXD and a Ranger, ya know go all in.....



Accuracy is within Rolex targets of +2/-2 which is nice to see.


Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/7/2023 1:57:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Im smitten by my FXD, and I have only worn another watch for like 2-3 days total in the month+ I have had it.

The Pelagos is just an awesome watch.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
5/7/2023 2:29:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Nice review and thanks for the pics and effort.

I want to try one on for sure.  I really want to check fit and legibility on the wrist.

Never getting rid of my 5 digit SD, but the Omegas and Sinn could go if this hits the spot for me.

Will you get the lugs drilled now?
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
5/7/2023 4:14:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5thLegion][Edited] [#27]
@Finslayer83 great review. I completely agree drilled lugs would be excellent (same on the 58).  
Tudor knocked it out of the park on this with a real tool watch.
5/7/2023 5:15:03 PM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By 55Kingpin:
Nice review and thanks for the pics and effort.

I want to try one on for sure.  I really want to check fit and legibility on the wrist.

Never getting rid of my 5 digit SD, but the Omegas and Sinn could go if this hits the spot for me.

Will you get the lugs drilled now?
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Originally Posted By 55Kingpin:
Nice review and thanks for the pics and effort.

I want to try one on for sure.  I really want to check fit and legibility on the wrist.

Never getting rid of my 5 digit SD, but the Omegas and Sinn could go if this hits the spot for me.

Will you get the lugs drilled now?


No, none of the shops will touch drilling it (I tried on 124060 and 214270). Theory is if the mid-case is damaged, they will not be able to source a new one.

How big is your wrist? I'd say it shines in the 6.5-7.5 range. Legibility is excellent, with no rehaut it is very flat and easy to read.

Originally Posted By 5thLegion:
@Finslayer83 great review. I completely agree drilled lugs would be excellent (same on the 58).  
Tudor knocked it out of the park on this with a real tool watch.


thanks!

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/7/2023 6:29:33 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


No, none of the shops will touch drilling it (I tried on 124060 and 214270). Theory is if the mid-case is damaged, they will not be able to source a new one.

How big is your wrist? I'd say it shines in the 6.5-7.5 range. Legibility is excellent, with no rehaut it is very flat and easy to read.



thanks!

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Good to know on the drilling.  My wrist is 7.25 to 7.5 depending on time of year and carbs…haha.

You are really tempting me!  I’m going to make some calls next week to see if I can find one to try on.

My 2220.80 on bracelet is probably the most “comfortable” to me.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
5/7/2023 7:15:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 55Kingpin][Edited] [#30]
How’s the bezel action?  Stiff enough to not get accidentally turned if I bang it against a table or door frame?
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
5/7/2023 7:42:03 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
30 days has come and gone.

General overview:

If you like titanium and you like design cues / history from Rolex and Tudor divers of the past, this is the best dive watch on the market under $10k.

- over the 124060 -

Yup, put both in front of me for the same cost, I'll take the Pelagos 39.

Personal thoughts:

If I could design the perfect watch (for me) with the disposal of Rolex / Tudor engineering staff - it would be the Pelagos 39 with the following changes:
- drilled lugs
- matte dial

We can't get everything we want in life so I'll happily accept the Pelagos 39 as the closest thing available to what I consider dive watch perfection.

The dial is actually fun, it can be a matte ink black or warm with a sheen to it. My preference would be for matte but it's by no means a deal breaker. When it comes to the bezel I really have grown to love it. It goes from a rich dark black to the faded grey that is often seen on older aluminum bezel subs.

I was annoyed with the 21mm lugs at first, but after using both NATOs and the bracelet - the bracelet is just too good. So remove that concern from the list.

If you are in the market or on the fence, you can't go wrong with one. Might even sell the ole Sub to get a FXD and a Ranger, ya know go all in.....

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/IMG_0944-2808675.jpg

Accuracy is within Rolex targets of +2/-2 which is nice to see.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/IMG_0949-2808676.jpg
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Sell the sub that you just got?  If that’s not an endorsement I don’t know what is.  

How long did you have to wait for your Tudor?
5/7/2023 8:13:15 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By Sierra5:


Sell the sub that you just got?  If that’s not an endorsement I don’t know what is.  

How long did you have to wait for your Tudor?
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Put a deposit down and it took right at 10-12 weeks. My AD said they basically get one, maybe two a quarter.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/7/2023 8:15:00 PM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By 55Kingpin:
How’s the bezel action?  Stiff enough to not get accidentally turned if I bang it against a table or door frame?
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Two door frames and a counter top has not moved the bezel so far.


Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/7/2023 9:55:01 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Put a deposit down and it took right at 10-12 weeks. My AD said they basically get one, maybe two a quarter.
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Interesting.  Thanks for the info.  I may have to get on the list for one of these.
5/9/2023 4:01:51 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Two door frames and a counter top has not moved the bezel so far.


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@Finslayer83 is a bad influence in all the best ways. Ended up with this today (42mm blue) and I can se this being every day easily.

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"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
@MacManus
5/9/2023 7:26:39 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


@Finslayer83 is a bad influence in all the best ways. Ended up with this today (42mm blue) and I can se this being every day easily.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_4276_jpeg-2811089.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_4278_jpeg-2811090.JPG
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I've been called worse

Looks great, wear in good health!
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/9/2023 7:30:35 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


I've been called worse

Looks great, wear in good health!
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Thank you, do the same.

You ever head a bit south towards Marietta, I’m buying drinks
"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
@MacManus
5/9/2023 7:39:13 PM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


Thank you, do the same.

You ever head a bit south towards Marietta, I’m buying drinks
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Dang I was just in Hotlanta!

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/13/2023 8:48:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Cool booklet arrived today from my AD.

It’s got some good stuff I’ll scan / photo.

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/14/2023 7:02:57 AM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Dang I was just in Hotlanta!

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Gimme a shout next time, I’ll buy a round Attached File


Got the small screwdrivers to size my band yesterday. Holy hell it’s much more comfy now that it fits.
"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
@MacManus
5/14/2023 9:08:35 AM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


Gimme a shout next time, I’ll buy a round https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_4299_jpeg-2816265.JPG

Got the small screwdrivers to size my band yesterday. Holy hell it’s much more comfy now that it fits.
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Nice!

I reset to the atomic clock / time.is and started a new timing run.

I'm still absolutely blown away by this thing. For example the case chamfering, a key piece of historical Submariner design is present here but absent from all Submariners since the retirement of the 14060M (2010).









Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/28/2023 5:45:36 PM EDT
[#42]
Here’s one of many dial / bezel combos.

Matte dial and ghost bezel, a favorite.

Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
5/29/2023 10:07:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pjnorth][Edited] [#43]
A few pics from a 1981 Tudor catalogue I picked up when I started shopping for dive watches in the 80's.
The vintage / modern Tudors are very cool.





5/29/2023 4:22:13 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By pjnorth:
A few pics from a 1981 Tudor catalogue I picked up when I started shopping for dive watches in the 80's.
The vintage / modern Tudors are very cool.

https://i.imgur.com/zJ4Pk5t.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/t59u5Jn.jpg

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Bravo!!! How cool.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
6/3/2023 5:10:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
6/3/2023 9:49:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Such a great looking watch. It's on my list.
6/3/2023 9:49:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EamonnWright][Edited] [#47]
It's so cool I said it twice. Double tap.
6/3/2023 10:13:24 PM EDT
[#48]
Although I love my black/glint BB58, if I was just getting into Rolex/Tudor this watch would be at the top of my list. Makes so much more sense than a modern Sub. In many ways a better watch. When they come out with a blue dial 39mm-  I’m in.
6/4/2023 8:09:25 AM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By 5thLegion:
Although I love my black/glint BB58, if I was just getting into Rolex/Tudor this watch would be at the top of my list. Makes so much more sense than a modern Sub. In many ways a better watch. When they come out with a blue dial 39mm-  I’m in.
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I'm half debating trading my Pelagos (42mm) in for a 39 if/when they do it in blue. Not sure why, I'm not small and the 42 fits and wears great. But still.
"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
@MacManus
6/4/2023 5:59:44 PM EDT
[#50]
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


I'm half debating trading my Pelagos (42mm) in for a 39 if/when they do it in blue. Not sure why, I'm not small and the 42 fits and wears great. But still.
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I'd love to see one in blue as well.

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