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Posted: Today 8:31:29 PM EST
[#1]
I don’t know much about Vance yet, but gut feel is that he is the better of the two.
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Posted: Today 8:31:33 PM EST
[#2]
Guys, don’t forget, at this moment 8 years ago Arfcom was saying “who’s going to run with Pence in ‘24 to continue this huge Red WaveTM”
Don’t get ahead of yourselves. It didn’t work out last time. |
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Posted: Today 8:32:32 PM EST
[#3]
Vance/Curano ‘28
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Posted: Today 8:34:24 PM EST
[#4]
How about we get to the inauguration without any hangups first….
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Posted: Today 8:34:32 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Desantis should have sat this one out and not burned his chance. He was a complete limp dick candidate and never had a chance to beat Trump. As much as I like DeSantis, I have to agree. I thought it from the get go. |
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Posted: Today 8:39:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By switchtanks: We’ve got some serious talent in the Republican Party these days  Much higher ceiling than the left. Who knows? He may get a job in the Trump administration in two years and really shine. |
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Posted: Today 8:41:45 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: You've been here too long to trust fedgov again. Right?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: He probably would be. But he's still needed to keep Florida based. If this Elon/Ron Paul thing happens, I just don't even know man. The Federal government might actually regain my trust. You've been here too long to trust fedgov again. Right? Yeah I'm not hopeful at all, just saying |
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Posted: Today 8:42:10 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: He's term limited. 2026 is the end of his governorship. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I think differently. He was a very strong candidate, who should have never run. Put simply, he needed to distance himself from Trump to be different but not alienate Trump voters. So basically Trump Light. Why would a voter want Trump Light instead of Trump? Harris had a similar problem. She needed to be different than Biden, but not alienate Biden voters. It's an impossible task. I still think he will do so much more good for the country as a Governor than he ever could have done as President. We need strong conservative Governors, and he was way out in front of Trump on COVID. I think he blew his chance and it's a shame. He'd be a monster of an Attorney General. He probably would be. But he's still needed to keep Florida based. If this Elon/Ron Paul thing happens, I just don't even know man. The Federal government might actually regain my trust. He's term limited. 2026 is the end of his governorship. I know. And because of that he won't be selected |
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Posted: Today 8:42:51 PM EST
[#9]
Vance is only an idea and a wish at this point. Let's see how he performs before we line up to suck his dick.
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PA, USA
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Posted: Today 8:43:48 PM EST
[#10]
Vance/McEnany ‘28
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Posted: Today 8:44:33 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Your okay with Government employees who owns Government contractors like Space X and got a bunch of Government money for his car company? Hello Russian oligarchy. That's a huge anti-Democratic conflict of interest. But ok, let's wreck the country because he's on our team. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: He probably would be. But he's still needed to keep Florida based. If this Elon/Ron Paul thing happens, I just don't even know man. The Federal government might actually regain my trust. Your okay with Government employees who owns Government contractors like Space X and got a bunch of Government money for his car company? Hello Russian oligarchy. That's a huge anti-Democratic conflict of interest. But ok, let's wreck the country because he's on our team. I'm okay with anyone who wants to crush Federal bureaucracy, yes. The Federal government should not be the largest employer. The Federal government should not have its hands on as much as it does. Don't worry though, it'll never happen. I just wish it would. |
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Posted: Today 8:44:43 PM EST
[#12]
I was trying to picture the stage for republican debates where all the candidates rock. What the heck are they going to do, give each other high fives the whole time?
I mean really what negative could really be said about JD Vance (I know his career is young), DeSantis or Vivek? |
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Posted: Today 8:46:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArpaioFan: I was trying to picture the stage for republican debates where all the candidates rock. What the heck are they going to do, give each other high fives the whole time? I mean really what negative could really be said about JD Vance (I know his career is young), DeSantis or Vivek? Vance is young. DeSantis isn't engaging. Vivek has no record. You can't think logically about Federal elections, that's not how voters make decisions. |
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Posted: Today 8:47:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrGoodkat: Vance/Gabbard '28 
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Posted: Today 8:48:11 PM EST
[#15]
Vance/Owens 2028
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Posted: Today 8:48:15 PM EST
[#16]
JD with Desantis as a running mate would fuckin rule.
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Posted: Today 8:48:27 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StanGram: Way too early to be making this call. I lol'd and a few posters already penciling in 8 years of Vance after Trump. Just look how much unpredictable shit happened the last 5 years. |
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Posted: Today 8:50:00 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StanGram: Way too early to be making this call. This. I remember the calls, at this stage in 2015, for Pence to be POTUS in 2024... Lots can change. We still don't know much about Vance at all. It's going to be at least a few years before I trust any so called reformed liberal. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: Today 8:51:01 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan: Vance/Vance 2028 I'd go with that just for the visuals. OOOsha! |
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MO, USA
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Posted: Today 8:51:30 PM EST
[#20]
Vance / Ramaswamy
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Posted: Today 8:52:13 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Desantis should have sat this one out and not burned his chance. He was a complete limp dick candidate and never had a chance to beat Trump. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Originally Posted By macman37: DeSantis/Vance ‘28 Desantis should have sat this one out and not burned his chance. He was a complete limp dick candidate and never had a chance to beat Trump. Agree. He jumped the gun. |
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Posted: Today 8:53:03 PM EST
[#22]
Vance/Gabbard
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SGP
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Posted: Today 8:54:16 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 999monkeys: I don't know much about Vance yet, but gut feel is that he is the better of the two. |
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USA
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Posted: Today 8:55:41 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NH556: It's why I don't fault him for taking a shot. He struck while his stock was high and a lot can change in politics quickly, especially with him being out of office come 2026. Didn't work out for him obviously, but I don't think he was a flawed candidate ---- realistically no one could beat Trump I think it was a really good thing for DeSantis to run this time. If Trump had gotten taken down during the lawfare phase, would you guys really have preferred Nikki Haley to be the Republican nominee? I've been wondering what would have happened if Trump had been killed in Pennsylvania -- since he hadn't yet formally announced that Vance was his running mate, AND since the RNC still hadn't been held, would the Republicans have had to run Vance anyway, or would they have thrown open the convention contest to anyone who showed up, or would the possible choices have been ONLY those who had run in the primary, or what? |
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Posted: Today 8:55:59 PM EST
[#25]
Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: DeS was the heir apparent after Trump, until he challenged Trump and lost badly. Plus, he's got several years unemployed until 2028 (unless he starts running in 2026). Assuming Vance does a good job for the next four years (there is no guarantee of that of course), he's the easy frontrunner in the 2028 GOP primary. 2024 was the one shot Desantis had due to timing. He could never have been Trump's VP, so that woukd hurt his prospects for 2028 no matter what. |
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Posted: Today 8:57:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Agree. He jumped the gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By triburst1: Originally Posted By macman37: DeSantis/Vance ‘28 Desantis should have sat this one out and not burned his chance. He was a complete limp dick candidate and never had a chance to beat Trump. Agree. He jumped the gun. Trump wasn't exactly the front runner with a bright future when DeSantis entered. It was a prudent move that had Trump not pulled off the greatest political comeback in history would still have positioned us with the opportunity to elect a an effective conservative President. People knock him based on Trump's style of attack which paints all of his opponents as caricatures of what they actually are. He took Newsome out behind the woodshed and would have done the same with Kamala. |
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Posted: Today 9:00:05 PM EST
[#27]
There isn't a Republican on deck that can match the broad appeal and intellect of JD Vance. If he had skeletons, they would have been exposed a long time ago. He is young, he is energetic, he is politically savvy, he is intellectually brilliant. He comes from an everyman background. Joe Rogan showed that he is relatable. He handles the Press better than any politician I have ever seen, save Ronald Reagan. It is comical to watch "journalists" try to match wits with him. It took exactly one legacy media interview for them to realize that they are hopelessly outmatched. He has traditional family values, a genuinely loving marriage. He adores his wife, and she adores him. Show me another high profile politician with that kind of marriage. He is everything good that the media made JFK out to be, except he is genuinely that. If I could make one suggestion to JD Vance, it would be to get with Rogan and Dana White and hit the weight pile. He's soft.
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LA, USA
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Posted: Today 9:00:58 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoneMouser: Not saying this is necessarily the best choice, just calling it now it will Vance / Vivek in 2028 if Vivek has a relevant role in Trump’s administration or finds a place in Congress before then.  |
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Posted: Today 9:01:45 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Trump wasn't exactly the front runner with a bright future when DeSantis entered. It was a prudent move that had Trump not pulled off the greatest political comeback in history would still have positioned us with the opportunity to elect a an effective conservative President. People knock him based on Trump's style of attack which paints all of his opponents as caricatures of what they actually are. He took Newsome out behind the woodshed and would have done the same with Kamala. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By triburst1: Originally Posted By macman37: DeSantis/Vance ‘28 Desantis should have sat this one out and not burned his chance. He was a complete limp dick candidate and never had a chance to beat Trump. Agree. He jumped the gun. Trump wasn't exactly the front runner with a bright future when DeSantis entered. It was a prudent move that had Trump not pulled off the greatest political comeback in history would still have positioned us with the opportunity to elect a an effective conservative President. People knock him based on Trump's style of attack which paints all of his opponents as caricatures of what they actually are. He took Newsome out behind the woodshed and would have done the same with Kamala. For all his numerous faults, Trump is actually presenting a different message. My unpopular opinion is that W. Bush was pretty much Obama. Charismatic guys with the same policies, and didn't want to upset anyone. Polished, and well spoken. But pretty similar results. Government increased, wars happened. Trump is far from perfect, even great. But he's such a departure from the status quo that it resonates with people. |
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Posted: Today 9:02:24 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrGoodkat: Vance/Gabbard '28 If she's legit red-pilled (and I think she is)...YES. |
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Posted: Today 9:02:35 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: DeSantis/Vance '28 |
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USA
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Posted: Today 9:02:58 PM EST
[#32]
At this point, I prefer Vance for 28, but things can definitely change by then.
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BHS
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Posted: Today 9:03:54 PM EST
[#33]
Vance isn’t one day into the job and you’re making this call already? Based on what exactly?
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Posted: Today 9:04:49 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter: There isn't a Republican on deck that can match the broad appeal and intellect of JD Vance. If he had skeletons, they would have been exposed a long time ago. He is young, he is energetic, he is politically savvy, he is intellectually brilliant. He comes from an everyman background. Joe Rogan showed that he is relatable. He handles the Press better than any politician I have ever seen, save Ronald Reagan. It is comical to watch "journalists" try to match wits with him. It took exactly one legacy media interview for them to realize that they are hopelessly outmatched. He has traditional family values, a genuinely loving marriage. He adores his wife, and she adores him. Show me another high profile politician with that kind of marriage. He is everything good that the media made JFK out to be, except he is genuinely that. If I could make one suggestion to JD Vance, it would be to get with Rogan and Dana White and hit the weight pile. He's soft. Plus, it’s been far too long since we’ve had a president with a beard. And by beard, I’m not counting Michelle Obama. |
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Posted: Today 9:06:43 PM EST
[#35]
I am 100% positive Trump will have monumental fuck ups. No doubt in my mind.
I think most people just want to get off this track we're currently on, and he will probably disrupt that. I don't expect he's going to do anything meaningful at the Federal level other than judicial appointments. But he most likely will slightly slow the gigantic government down a little bit. I think that's all we can really expect at this point. I don't think he's going to fire 80% of the government employees, I think he'll swing with popular opinions during tragedy at the expense of our rights, I think he'll make some good EOs that will immediately get reversed, etc. He's a breather. I think the nation needed a breather. And he has great comedic timing, so I'll take jokes over being yelled at for being a nazi. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: Today 9:06:50 PM EST
[#36]
We'll have to see how he does as VP but if MAGA does well, I think you're right. I think we could easily see a Vance and Tulsi/Vivek ticket which I would be excited for. I think DeSantis leads a "different faction" of the right which isn't a bad thing.
That said, can we take a minute to appreciate the potential lineup of future leaders the right has: DeSantis Vance Gabbord Ramaswamy Possibly RFK Jr They are all young too (in political terms) and they all have Presidential potential. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: Today 9:06:57 PM EST
[#37]
Vance/Ivanka 2028
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Posted: Today 9:07:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: For all his numerous faults, Trump is actually presenting a different message. My unpopular opinion is that W. Bush was pretty much Obama. Charismatic guys with the same policies, and didn't want to upset anyone. Polished, and well spoken. But pretty similar results. Government increased, wars happened. Trump is far from perfect, even great. But he's such a departure from the status quo that it resonates with people. Agreed on all fronts. Trump outside of his debate with Kamala is much better this time around. His message is clear and what he represents going forward matters far more than what this next term will consist of which is deregulation, an extension of tax cuts, Supreme Court nominees and a general DONT FUCK WITH US attitude on a national stage. Candidates going forward are going to see that and try to replicate it. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: Today 9:09:47 PM EST
[#39]
- Vivek has entered the chat -
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Posted: Today 9:11:39 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Agreed on all fronts. Trump outside of his debate with Kamala is much better this time around. His message is clear and what he represents going forward matters far more than what this next term will consist of which is deregulation, an extension of tax cuts, Supreme Court nominees and a general DONT FUCK WITH US attitude on a national stage. Candidates going forward are going to see that and try to replicate it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: For all his numerous faults, Trump is actually presenting a different message. My unpopular opinion is that W. Bush was pretty much Obama. Charismatic guys with the same policies, and didn't want to upset anyone. Polished, and well spoken. But pretty similar results. Government increased, wars happened. Trump is far from perfect, even great. But he's such a departure from the status quo that it resonates with people. Agreed on all fronts. Trump outside of his debate with Kamala is much better this time around. His message is clear and what he represents going forward matters far more than what this next term will consist of which is deregulation, an extension of tax cuts, Supreme Court nominees and a general DONT FUCK WITH US attitude on a national stage. Candidates going forward are going to see that and try to replicate it. Agree. It's also important he doesn't need the money. Most of the government people are retarded because they want money. Trump is retarded and has money, that's an important distinction in his motives. |
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Posted: Today 9:11:51 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garn: - Vivek has entered the chat - |
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GA, USA
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Posted: Today 9:12:04 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Desantis should have sat this one out and not burned his chance. He was a complete limp dick candidate and never had a chance to beat Trump. There's also the fact that he's way too damn cozy with the Bushes. He did a great job posturing the way he did as governor for a presidential run on Trump's coattails but he's a swamp creature through and through. |
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Posted: Today 9:13:22 PM EST
[#43]
Jeebus fukin H krist!
Vivek? you guys really are retawded!
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Posted: Today 9:13:41 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: I like DeS very much and I agree with this. It was the worst politcial timing in my memory. This , didn't like seeing it happen. |
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Posted: Today 9:14:00 PM EST
[#45]
Like pants on fukin head
Retarded |
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FL, USA
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Posted: Today 9:14:59 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan: Vance/Vance 2028 Yeah ya rite...DeS sucked the big one...No chance against Vance if he does well in next 4 yrs... |
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GA, USA
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Posted: Today 9:17:17 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Everybody said that about Trump. There seems to be a pattern in American politics. The best conservatives get elected right after the worst liberals, because Americans get a taste of leftism and go "Yikes!" Carter - Reagan Obama - Trump Biden - Trump Same could happen to DeS, but after a real bad Dem gets elected first. But Reagan was a swamp shitlib that gave amnesty to illegals that fucked California forever, spent fuckloads of money, and banned guns whenever he could. People look at his presidency through rose colored glasses because he "killed the Soviet Union" without taking into account that the USSR was dying all on its own and it only left a huge vacuum in the global political stage that got filled with far smaller and far more numerous enemies, making it harder to keep a lid on things. |
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Posted: Today 9:18:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Agree. It's also important he doesn't need the money. Most of the government people are retarded because they want money. Trump is retarded and has money, that's an important distinction in his motives. Rich people in the government who earned their worth through competence and experience > People who lie and earned their worth through favors to those who placed them in power |
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GA, USA
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Posted: Today 9:20:28 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Lots of Potuses get elected on charm instead of great ideas. FDR, JFK, Clinton. Reagan had charm AND great ideas. He's a rare exception. Trump may be in his class, time will tell. Except Kennedy was actually a good President that got capped by the CIA because he was going to pull us out of Vietnam. He might have been a shitty person, but he was actually a pretty good President. Reagan was not. |
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Posted: Today 9:20:34 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrGoodkat: Vance/Gabbard '28 we'll see what she does the next few years but I've listened to a lot of podcast interviews and she is still pretty grounded |
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