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9/6/2014 9:21:25 PM EDT
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OK, I read the article and still don't know who JTR is (What I "thought" was in there based on the thread title)......Did I miss something?
9/6/2014 9:26:43 PM EDT
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Are you sure you read the right article?

•DNA evidence on a shawl found at Ripper murder scene nails killer

•By testing descendants of victim and suspect, identifications were made

•Jack the Ripper has been identified as Polish-born Aaron Kosminski

•Kosminski was a suspect when the Ripper murders took place in 1888

•Hairdresser Kosminski lived in Whitechapel and was later put in an asylum
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Those bullet points were even before the main body of the article, for the TL;DR crowd.
9/6/2014 9:29:19 PM EDT
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  • Jack the Ripper has been identified as Polish-born Aaron Kosminski



 
9/6/2014 9:29:41 PM EDT
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Don't they ID him every few years?  A JTR article means "slow news day" in Navajo I think.
9/6/2014 9:31:26 PM EDT
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But, this time....SCIENCE!!!
9/6/2014 9:32:45 PM EDT
[#6]
Kind of a moot point now.
9/6/2014 9:32:47 PM EDT
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there's a 99.2% match of 126 yr old dna?
9/6/2014 9:32:59 PM EDT
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•DNA evidence on a shawl found at Ripper murder scene nails killer



•By testing descendants of victim and suspect, identifications were made



•Jack the Ripper has been identified as Polish-born Aaron Kosminski



•Kosminski was a suspect when the Ripper murders took place in 1888



•Hairdresser Kosminski lived in Whitechapel and was later put in an asylum




Those bullet points were even before the main body of the article, for the TL;DR crowd.
Yeah, I missed it



Thanks for the heads-up



"Amplifying and sequencing the DNA from
the cells found on the shawl took months of painstaking, innovative
work. By that point, my excitement had reached fever-pitch. And when the
email finally arrived telling me Jari had found a perfect match, I was
overwhelmed. Seven years after I bought the shawl, we had nailed Aaron
Kosminski"

 
9/6/2014 9:33:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Hairdressor huh....

9/6/2014 9:34:26 PM EDT
[#10]
I hope he gets the death penalty for his crimes
9/6/2014 9:34:52 PM EDT
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People had really bad skin back in the olden days.
9/6/2014 9:34:59 PM EDT
[#12]
I guess the next question would be how many of the total murders were copycat killings.
9/6/2014 9:36:10 PM EDT
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How hilarious would it be for descendants of the killed to demand restitution from the descendents of the murderer, Al Sharpton would probably back them.
9/6/2014 9:37:03 PM EDT
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Timely thread, I'm watching "From Hell" right now.
9/6/2014 9:37:35 PM EDT
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Hate to be the nay-sayer, but have the findings been verified by a non-biased source?

Dude buys shawl from JTR murder scene and pays dude number 2 to find a link?

Well duh!
9/6/2014 9:38:19 PM EDT
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Doesn't he golf with bomah ?
9/6/2014 9:38:22 PM EDT
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There are sequences which are unique to humans, and complex sets of variations of those sequences that are (almost) unique to individuals.
9/6/2014 9:42:12 PM EDT
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Hate to be the nay-sayer, but have the findings been verified by a non-biased source?

Dude buys shawl from JTR murder scene and pays dude number 2 to find a link?

Well duh!
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Dude 2 is...  "senior lecturer in molecular biology at Liverpool John Moores University" and consults with Interpol on cold crime evidence in his spare time.

Doubt he wants to impeach his credentials for either gig just for some cash on the side.
9/6/2014 9:42:35 PM EDT
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Not a prominent Freemason then...
9/6/2014 9:43:06 PM EDT
[#20]
Standing by for the "Innocent Man Freed After 30 Years", news headline.  I know he's dead, but you know what I mean.
9/6/2014 9:44:09 PM EDT
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Hate to be the nay-sayer, but have the findings been verified by a non-biased source?



Dude buys shawl from JTR murder scene and pays dude number 2 to find a link?



Well duh!
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FWIW, I sort'a remember (?) that SY "Thought" it might be him but they were afraid to

say so for fear that it would start a new wave of Anti-Semitism in London/WhiteChapel/England.



Back in '88/'92(?) everyone was waiting for this.  They were supposed to release the real name of

the killer.



 
9/6/2014 9:45:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Hey raven, thanks a bunch for the thread man.
9/6/2014 9:45:59 PM EDT
[#23]
In for the 'proof'.
9/6/2014 9:47:33 PM EDT
[#24]
Looks like:
9/6/2014 9:48:23 PM EDT
[#25]
It's more likely the dude that was put in the asylum for knifing his wife to death, escaped before the jack the ripper murders started, wasn't seen for 40 years, turns himself into the asylum and says he's been on a personal war on women. he was in America during the missing years and everywhere he said he had been there were murders similar to jack the ripper murders. James Kelly.
9/6/2014 9:49:15 PM EDT
[#26]
Huh. Always thought it was H.H. Holmes, but that was more of a theory.
9/6/2014 9:49:22 PM EDT
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Wait..she's a prostitute who worked near where he lived and they found his DNA on her shawl?  Paging Bill Clinton.
9/6/2014 9:51:24 PM EDT
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That fucker did enough damage over here



I still think we ought to dig what's left of him up and feed it to pigs.



 
9/6/2014 9:52:29 PM EDT
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Dude 2 is...  "senior lecturer in molecular biology at Liverpool John Moores University" and consults with Interpol on cold crime evidence in his spare time.

Doubt he wants to impeach his credentials for either gig just for some cash on the side.
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Hate to be the nay-sayer, but have the findings been verified by a non-biased source?

Dude buys shawl from JTR murder scene and pays dude number 2 to find a link?

Well duh!


Dude 2 is...  "senior lecturer in molecular biology at Liverpool John Moores University" and consults with Interpol on cold crime evidence in his spare time.

Doubt he wants to impeach his credentials for either gig just for some cash on the side.


But how about selling a shit ton of books?
Guess the rich business guy who paid a bitch load of money for said shawl doesn't have any commercial interest in this?



Sorry. Skepticism is my business and business is good.
9/6/2014 9:53:00 PM EDT
[#30]
So he was a Polish serial killer! There has got to be a joke in there somewhere.
9/6/2014 9:53:10 PM EDT
[#31]
if i remember correctly, she was seen at some point and then found 10minutes later by a police officer.
the guy had time to kill her by cutting her throat, carefully remove her kidney after she had died from the throat cutting, remove her guts and arrange them in an odd manner
and then ejaculate into a piece of clothing and escape without being seen ? all in 10 minutes.

thats a lot to get done in 10 minutes with a police officer and several other people in the area.
not saying it couldn't have been done or that its not the guy they think it is.
you can appreciate why so many people have been pulled in by the case. its down right odd and thought provoking.
9/6/2014 9:54:10 PM EDT
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It's more likely the dude that was put in the asylum for knifing his wife to death, escaped before the jack the ripper murders started, wasn't seen for 40 years, turns himself into the asylum and says he's been on a personal war on women. he was in America during the missing years and everywhere he said he had been there were murders similar to jack the ripper murders. James Kelly.
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Are you Cormac Maccarthy?

 





9/6/2014 9:54:13 PM EDT
[#33]
Good read.
9/6/2014 9:54:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Aaron the Ripper.



Just doesn't sound as good.
9/6/2014 9:54:16 PM EDT
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So it was Heady all along.
9/6/2014 9:55:41 PM EDT
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That's Headly.



 
9/6/2014 9:56:23 PM EDT
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There are sequences which are unique to humans, and complex sets of variations of those sequences that are (almost) unique to individuals.


Yep.  Single nucleotide polymorphisms
9/6/2014 9:58:00 PM EDT
[#38]
the brits have been looking to in this on Aaron Kosminski for a long time.  looks like they finally managed to do it.
9/6/2014 9:59:03 PM EDT
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You obviously didn't read the article. The first test was 99.2% match while the second was 100%.

The first strand of DNA showed a 99.2 per cent match, as the analysis instrument could not determine the sequence of the missing 0.8 per cent fragment  of DNA. On testing the second strand, we achieved a perfect  100 per cent match.


9/6/2014 9:59:44 PM EDT
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Something about I screen door or something.
9/6/2014 10:00:15 PM EDT
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So it was Heady all along.

It's Headly.

ETA: beat... By like 5 minutes.
9/6/2014 10:02:39 PM EDT
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Good movie.
9/6/2014 10:03:09 PM EDT
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9/6/2014 10:04:22 PM EDT
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Of blamings Poland..........

9/6/2014 10:07:19 PM EDT
[#45]
That's how everyone looked back then though.
9/6/2014 10:07:23 PM EDT
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if i remember correctly, she was seen at some point and then found 10minutes later by a police officer.
the guy had time to kill her by cutting her throat, carefully remove her kidney after she had died from the throat cutting, remove her guts and arrange them in an odd manner
and then ejaculate into a piece of clothing and escape without being seen ? all in 10 minutes.

thats a lot to get done in 10 minutes with a police officer and several other people in the area.
not saying it couldn't have been done or that its not the guy they think it is.
you can appreciate why so many people have been pulled in by the case. its down right odd and thought provoking.
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Dude was a hairdresser bro.  Working miracles with women is all in a days work.don'tcha know?
9/6/2014 10:10:32 PM EDT
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Right on.
9/6/2014 11:00:35 PM EDT
[#48]
Looks like Rasputin. First pic shows poor digestion under his eyes.  Not enough acids in the system.  Screwed up guy.
9/6/2014 11:02:57 PM EDT
[#49]
I would like to hear Kary Mullis weigh in on this.
I suspect he would be skeptical
9/6/2014 11:23:40 PM EDT
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Saw a documentary on JTR a few years ago on the History Channel.  Kosminski was mentioned as a suspect.  It also mentioned the apron found with Katherine Eddows.



If this is true, it's an amazing piece of detective work and very, very cool.
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