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2/27/2008 10:46:33 AM EDT
Are you loyal to the Allied States, in Cheyenne or the United States in Columbus?

Texans can participate too as it is presumed that they will have to decide one way or the other eventually.
2/27/2008 10:47:33 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Are you loyal to the Allied States, in Cheyenne or the United States in Columbus?



Columbus.... Cheyenned dropped the bombs and kill the citizens.
2/27/2008 10:47:53 AM EDT
[#2]
allied
2/27/2008 11:44:51 AM EDT
[#3]
Who is the guy on the moniter that the Major is talking to? Sorry, I just getting up to speed, and must have missed that part.
2/27/2008 11:46:34 AM EDT
[#4]
We aren't sure yet.  He hasn't been IDed
2/27/2008 12:01:06 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Who is the guy on the moniter that the Major is talking to? Sorry, I just getting up to speed, and must have missed that part.


The Govt insider that Hawkins suspects masterminded the bombings.
2/27/2008 12:08:08 PM EDT
[#6]
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Who is the guy on the moniter that the Major is talking to? Sorry, I just getting up to speed, and must have missed that part.


The Govt insider that Hawkins suspects masterminded the bombings.


I thought he was the Govt insider who masterminded it...its been awhile since I saw the whole show back to back.



Edit to clear up my crap. & to admit I just remembered who Hawkins is....
2/27/2008 12:13:21 PM EDT
[#7]
I would join Texas and say screw the rest of them.

2/27/2008 12:14:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Id go US for the simple fact of the new history books being a bit odd...
2/27/2008 12:16:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Any place you can watch all the episodes. I missed the first few. How many have shown.
2/27/2008 12:21:37 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't know. I live about 100 Miles from New York City, so am I still alive or did I die from nuclear fallout? If am am alive I vote for Columbus. If I am dead I vote for PIE

Andy
2/27/2008 12:21:46 PM EDT
[#11]
Booya Grandma

Jericho -- All Episodes on CBS.com
2/27/2008 12:23:45 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Who is the guy on the moniter that the Major is talking to? Sorry, I just getting up to speed, and must have missed that part.


The Govt insider that Hawkins suspects masterminded the bombings.


He is named Valenti. He is a slimeball that is taking the opportunity to seize power.

He is a head guy at jennings and rall and I think.
2/27/2008 12:26:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Tagged until I have time to watch last night's episode...
2/27/2008 12:27:19 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Booya Grandma

Jericho -- All Episodes on CBS.com


Thanks!
2/27/2008 12:27:36 PM EDT
[#15]
He is the bomb mastermind.  I thought you meant the guy on the radio that told the major something.  Sorry for the misdirection, I've had a hell of a day at work
2/27/2008 12:28:58 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm a big fan of the Constitution as written.  A new "Constitutional Convention" would not sit well with me.  And thats an understatement.
2/27/2008 12:33:12 PM EDT
[#17]
I never finished the last 2 episodes of last season.



Did they figure out who bombed us, and how, and why were chinese planes dropping generators and fuel?
2/27/2008 12:34:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Cheyenne murdered millions of my fellow Americans, is a domestic enemy of the Constitution, took away my rights, declared marshall law, and put some bullshit "administrator" from a private company in charge of my life.

Why in the world would anyone support Cheyenne over the lawful government of The United States of America?
2/27/2008 12:36:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Can't wait until next week.
2/27/2008 12:37:55 PM EDT
[#20]
he is the one that is charge of the whole bomb thing i think.. the girl that there looking for was communicating with him before the other dude killed her.  
2/28/2008 1:02:30 AM EDT
[#21]
Fuck the ASA, their bastardized flag, their illegitimate president, and the horse they rode in on.

The Republic of Texas better side with the USA or I'm gonna have to go over to San Antonio and kick some ass.
2/28/2008 1:32:36 AM EDT
[#22]

Texans can participate too as it is presumed that they will have to decide one way or the other eventually.


Join a nation?

Pfft - As though we'd make the same mistake twice!
2/28/2008 1:48:30 AM EDT
[#23]
That abomination with verticle stripes wouldn't fly anywhere near me.
2/28/2008 6:01:02 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Tagged until I have time to watch last night's episode...


Watched it back last night -- with the information available to date, I would have to side with Texas if they remain independent, or with Columbus if Texas chooses (either way).
2/28/2008 6:03:30 AM EDT
[#25]
Whoever has the coolest toys of course.

I mean, it is all the same, in the end.  the good guys will get around to stelaing my guns and porn, and the bad guys will eventually get around to doing same. So a little shake up is a good thing in my mind.
2/28/2008 6:10:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Anybody else think Hawkins will eventually use his nuke on Cheyenne?


2/28/2008 6:11:08 AM EDT
[#27]
There is a bigger issue. It shows up here very well. without like arms...of which the constitution speaks we are vulnerable. We could NEVER mount any real resistance to a well healed army. They walk in flying any flag and your fucked. Just like jerico they find themslves on the wrong side. now what ya gonna do? they have aircraft tanks and auto MG's. all the ammo you could want. Sure you may kill some folks and win a battle or two. Do you really think you can win the war? Fuck no. if they want it they will take it and bury your ass in the rubble.While it is just a show. it does point out the fundamental flaw it the " take it from my cold dead hands" mantra. Because the WILL and there aint shit you or I can do about it. food for thought.
2/28/2008 6:12:47 AM EDT
[#28]
Also which side will restore the 2nd in it's entirety? I'm talking any weapon you want here guys....
2/28/2008 6:16:02 AM EDT
[#29]
I'll play

At this point in the fictional series I suspect my loyalties would lie with my family and to a lesser extent the immediate community of those around me. So, no blind allegiance to anybodys flag until I see their rhetoric in action. I'm a fence-sitt'n.
2/28/2008 6:22:59 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Anybody else think Hawkins will eventually use his nuke on Cheyenne?




That'd make a heck of a second-season cliffhanger.
2/28/2008 6:24:22 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Also which side will restore the 2nd in it's entirety? I'm talking any weapon you want here guys....


After the bombs went off, I'm pretty sure the SA was "restored" immediately.  
No shortage of armed citizens protecting them and they shit.
2/28/2008 6:25:38 AM EDT
[#32]
A Constitutional Convention? WTF is wrong with the old one? Oh yeah, they are using it in Columbus. Buckeyes FTW.

It looks like Texas gets a second chance at a civil war.  This time, they will come in on the right side of the union.
2/28/2008 8:55:45 AM EDT
[#33]
Texas will become it's own nation.

End of story.

2/28/2008 8:58:46 AM EDT
[#34]

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Texas will become it's own nation.

End of story.



It will be re-annexed by Mexico.  

End of story.
2/28/2008 9:00:03 AM EDT
[#35]
In the context of the series, it's obvious that the government in Cheyenne is being controlled by traitors.
2/28/2008 9:02:59 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
A Constitutional Convention? WTF is wrong with the old one? Oh yeah, they are using it in Columbus. Buckeyes FTW.

It looks like Texas gets a second chance at a civil war.  This time, they will come in on the right side of the union.


Maybe I missed something in my haste to mute the TV to avoid still more hyping of CBS and their BS reality show crap.  

The information about Columbus being the true-blue holders of all that is dear to us is second-hand at best, and what we have been 'told' may also be dis-information.  Somebody needs to dig out their cached and presumably EMP-protected comms gear and do some inquiries to folks east of the Mississippi.  I suggest operating mobile because of DF.




I love deeply analyzing TV programs.  So intellectually stimulating!
2/28/2008 9:05:46 AM EDT
[#37]

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I'm a big fan of the Constitution as written.  A new "Constitutional Convention" would not sit well with me.  And thats an understatement.


ditto i would have been a ASA man untill that part
2/28/2008 9:08:49 AM EDT
[#38]
The Allied States are an unlawful occupation government.

In Season 1, it was revealed that a cabinet member (the designated survivor) survived the attacks.  She (it was a woman) is the lawful President of the United States.  All US Military personnel are obligated by their service oaths, federal law, and the UCMJ and to obey her orders.

The Senator who took control of the Allied States and launched nuclear weapons is a traitor, as are all military personnel who sided with him.
2/28/2008 9:21:43 AM EDT
[#39]
China did not have anything to do with the bombs, they were an inside job. China just dropped humanitarian aid after the strikes.

The missiles launched in Season 1 were fired at the FORMER nations of North Korea and Iran, Nuked to cover up the fact the bombs were an inside job!

Valenti is the Department of Homeland security chief, He was in on the bombings.

Hawkins id's Valenti as being involved and is working to expose him and anyone else responsible for the attack in the new corrupt Cheyenne government.

Valenti has the major hunting that ghost Sarah who Hawkins helped assume room temperature last season because he is still under the mistaken assumption the bitch has the bomb that could expose him.

Which leads us to last episode, which still has me wondering how the major knows who he is and how he knew how to contact Hawkins unless he was also CIA on a seperate but connected mission. I was flipped out when the majors voice came over that cell phone, i was expecting Chueng or Chavez.

I am pissed that the dickwad from Ravenwood was put in charge of Jericho as administrator, I would see to it that murdering prick was bench pressing daisies someplace.
2/28/2008 12:03:51 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A Constitutional Convention? WTF is wrong with the old one? Oh yeah, they are using it in Columbus. Buckeyes FTW.

It looks like Texas gets a second chance at a civil war.  This time, they will come in on the right side of the union.


Maybe I missed something in my haste to mute the TV to avoid still more hyping of CBS and their BS reality show crap.  

The information about Columbus being the true-blue holders of all that is dear to us is second-hand at best, and what we have been 'told' may also be dis-information.  Somebody needs to dig out their cached and presumably EMP-protected comms gear and do some inquiries to folks east of the Mississippi.  I suggest operating mobile because of DF.

I love deeply analyzing TV programs.  So intellectually stimulating!

As I understand it, after the 23 nukes and the EMP the government fractured into six parts (mostly due to the fact that they detonated the DC nuke when most of Congress was there, the POTUS and VPOTUS were present, among others; achieved significant decapitation of the government).

The government in Columbus is the remnant of the pre-nuclear attack federal government, led by a new POTUS chosen through the line of succession in the lawful manner. They're the United States of America. The two other eastern fragments of the government (Albany and Tallahassee) realigned behind the legit government. What's left of the old constitutional gov't is behind Columbus, with whatever loyal military they have.

The government in Cheyenne got one of the other splinters behind them and is led by a traitorous senator who decided to use the confusion and the decapitation of the government to seize power (and likely was a willing actor in the attack on the US). That's the Allied States of America. They're writing new history books to legitimize themselves, framing a new Constitution, and represent the end of America as it's been known 1776-200x (even going so far as to make their pretender POTUS the "FIRST" president). It's thought right now that they have significant control of stateside military, but military outside the CONUS may still answer overwhelmingly to the USA.

The sixth splinter of the government, set up in San Antonio, hasn't taken a side, and the military and resource might of Texas means they don't have to. They're more than likely going to pick a side, and will probably decide the outcome in the process. They are leaning ASA for unknown reasons, and the new mission of Hawkins seems to be to get word to Texas that the ASA is the result of the most elaborate and deadly coup attempt in history, so that they don't take the wrong side.

Both Alaska and Hawaii are currently thought to be in the same position as Texas, though Alaska going ASA is a foregone conclusion since it seems the ASA has control of the pipeline and significant contact with the Alaskan state gov, among other things.

And then of course there's the issue of we may well have a well-armed enemy outside... someone out there, not USA or ASA, EMPed the CONUS.
2/28/2008 12:19:00 PM EDT
[#41]
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In the context of the series, it's obvious that the government in Cheyenne is being controlled by traitors.


Unlike the one in DC, presently.
2/28/2008 12:21:02 PM EDT
[#42]
You may or may not be happy with the series, but you got to admit, they got good writers. This show will be a cult show for decades to come just like "The Prisoner".
2/28/2008 12:21:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Neither, TEXAS !
2/28/2008 12:21:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Where were the missiles that carried the EMP launched from? In the episode they feel the earth rumbling.
2/28/2008 12:38:10 PM EDT
[#45]

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Id go US for the simple fact of the new history books being a bit odd...


Who do you think has been writing our History books for 40 years? The Hippies and Lefties won the education war and have been spreading their propaganda ever since.
2/28/2008 12:41:23 PM EDT
[#46]
It seems like the Allied States are the ones who planned it all.
2/28/2008 12:42:15 PM EDT
[#47]
I would not unite under that new gay flag.  Give me old glory.
2/28/2008 12:42:49 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Texans can participate too as it is presumed that they will have to decide one way or the other eventually.


Join a nation?

Pfft - As though we'd make the same mistake twice!


Texas should just kick all the liberals out and form their own nation
2/28/2008 12:42:58 PM EDT
[#49]

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I would not unite under that new gay flag.  Give me old glory.


Indeed, just seeing it makes my skin crawl.
2/28/2008 12:54:31 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Booya Grandma

Jericho -- All Episodes on CBS.com




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