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Originally Posted By Kagetora: If you ever do decide to go, the company I went with was called Archaeological Paths, out of Poland (I think). It was phenomenal. The first week we spent at the Mena House in Cairo (an old palace converted to a super-nice hotel). Up early for a delicious breakfast, then off to a site or museum somewhere, then lunch at a local place in Cairo, then off to another site/museum, then back to the hotel for dinner, lectures, etc. The second week we were doing the same thing on one of the cruise boats up and down the Nile from Luxor to Aswan. Plus a bus ride in a military convoy down almost to the border with Sudan to see Abu Simbel. We hit all the highlights. I crawled into the Great Pyramid and the Red Pyramid (and I've read the Bent Pyramid is open now too), ran my hands along the Sphinx, wandered in tombs in the VotK, went to Luxor, Karnak, Edfu, and a dozen other places, plus a day exploring Cairo, going to the National Museum (the old one...the new one is open now), etc. etc. etc. Trip of a lifetime for a former archaeologist with a serious interest in Egyptology. Archaeological Paths has some form of serious "in" with the government (likely just through lots of money), so most of the time it was just our group at a site, often outside of normal hours. Very cool. They're still running tours, have added new stuff over the years, and usually go in November and February when it's not surface-of-the-sun hot. I'd go again, when things settle back down to the normal dull roar in the ME for a while. ETA: Here is their site. They go other places too. And take really good care of you. It's definitely the way to take a vacation. I plan on doing more stuff like this in the future. Trying to plan everything myself gets tiresome, but it was my default until I did this and got spoiled.  Archaeological Paths ETA first post of new page, picture mandatory, Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Been several times to Egypt (I used to reside in Europe, it was just so close) but NEVER to those sites. You just made me want to go - including the trip up and down the Nile... as seen in some of those adventurous movies... damn that'd be fantastic. Maybe once I am in my 60s and retired, wife and I could do just that ETA first post of new page, picture mandatory, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/s-l1200_jpg-3672265.JPG It was worth every minute and dollar I spent. I barely scratched the surface of what we did in my brief description. That company was great. Hell our tour guide was awesome. Little 5-foot nothing middle aged archaeologist with a ton of knowledge unafraid of any of the tourist police or guards, had more than one spirited conversation with them that ended with them slinking away, tail between their legs. I saw her grease a few palms too. She was great, took really good care of all of us. 
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: It was worth every minute and dollar I spent. I barely scratched the surface of what we did in my brief description. That company was great. Hell our tour guide was awesome. Little 5-foot nothing middle aged archaeologist with a ton of knowledge unafraid of any of the tourist police or guards, had more than one spirited conversation with them that ended with them slinking away, tail between their legs. I saw her grease a few palms too. She was great, took really good care of all of us. Damn I have a lot of hotel points and delta miles, maybe the wife and I do this next year. They sell liquor in Egypt? I'm not going to a sharia law country again. |
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Originally Posted By SharkStomper: Damn I have a lot of hotel points and delta miles, maybe the wife and I do this next year. They sell liquor in Egypt? I'm not going to a sharia law country again. 25% of their GDP is tourists. They try to make them happy.Both the hotel and the boat had bars. I drank plenty. It wasn't cheap, but it's vacation baby! Just don't get trashed or become a nuisance. The boat crew was amused, the authorities not as much.    ETA: Sunset over the Nile from the Concerto, our ship. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: For the naysayers, decide for yourself. Here he is demonstrating SAR @1h45m on Gran Sasso laboratory at 1400 meters deep. Most of us will need to turn on English subtitles  . Then he shows the Mosul Dam, and then San Gottardo tunnel at a depth of 2300 meters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8vzUUZdVMLet's go crazy here. I WANT to believe. I'm Fox Mulder in the basement with the poster. I think the Sphinx is older than the rest of the Giza plateau. Do I accept whatever Graham Hancock spews out onto a keyboard? Nope. But I've stood in front of the object in question. The first thing I noticed, the first time I looked at it in a photo, much less in real life, is that the head is too small for the body. It's been re-carved. Whether from an older head of a jackal or a lion, no one will ever know until a time machine exists. That's reality. To me, it's obvious. To others, maybe not. That's fine, until the reason for it being denied is monetary/career derived/government dictated. It is, as tourism is a giant portion of Egypt's GDP, and the narrative isn't allowed to be questioned. So...are there structures beneath the pyramids? The answer to that question isn't even relevant until someone is willing to go into the country, militarily if necessary, and start digging. But...there likely isn't oil under the Giza Plateau, so...that won't happen. What you're staring down is the same reason that "Disclosure" (see how I emphasized the word) isn't likely to either happen, or be believed if some part of it does happen. I WANT it to happen. I want to see the physical proof, laid bare for the world. I want to see the paradigm shift in the average person's consciousness. I can want in one hand and shit in the other, check periodically to see which one fills up first. Do you think it's a random coincidence that "Disclosure" (see what I did there) and things like this, structures underneath the Giza Plateau, are cropping up IN FORCE, right now...at the exact point that AI pictures and videos become essentially indistinguishable from the real thing? Fuck. My unrelenting disillusionment is showing again.  It's not just being the resident skeptic. It's genuine lack of trust, that I struggle to surmount. Sadly enough, I like to think I might be on the right-hand side of the bell curve. It's why I'm discussing this with all of you. The vast majority won't even give it as much thought as their next pizza delivery or sportsball game. I'm glad I'm getting older and closer to death. 1984 becoming reality is something I'd rather witness as I close my eyes for the last time as opposed to live through. What can we, as either credulous believers, or incredulous non-believers who would like to know more, do at this point? Other than watch 3+ hour YouTube videos that do nothing except sound in an echo-chamber? Sorry. More disillusionment showing. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Let's go crazy here. I WANT to believe. I'm Fox Mulder in the basement with the poster. I think the Sphinx is older than the rest of the Giza plateau. Do I accept whatever Graham Hancock spews out onto a keyboard? Nope. But I've stood in front of the object in question. The first thing I noticed, the first time I looked at it in a photo, much less in real life, is that the head is too small for the body. It's been re-carved. Whether from an older head of a jackal or a lion, no one will ever know until a time machine exists. That's reality. To me, it's obvious. To others, maybe not. That's fine, until the reason for it being denied is monetary/career derived/government dictated. It is, as tourism is a giant portion of Egypt's GDP, and the narrative isn't allowed to be questioned. So...are there structures beneath the pyramids? The answer to that question isn't even relevant until someone is willing to go into the country, militarily if necessary, and start digging. But...there likely isn't oil under the Giza Plateau, so...that won't happen. What you're staring down is the same reason that "Disclosure" (see how I emphasized the word) isn't likely to either happen, or be believed if some part of it does happen. I WANT it to happen. I want to see the physical proof, laid bare for the world. I want to see the paradigm shift in the average person's consciousness. I can want in one hand and shit in the other, check periodically to see which one fills up first. Do you think it's a random coincidence that "Disclosure" (see what I did there) and things like this, structures underneath the Giza Plateau, are cropping up IN FORCE, right now...at the exact point that AI pictures and videos become essentially indistinguishable from the real thing? Fuck. My unrelenting disillusionment is showing again. It's not just being the resident skeptic. It's genuine lack of trust, that I struggle to surmount. Sadly enough, I like to think I might be on the right-hand side of the bell curve. It's why I'm discussing this with all of you. The vast majority won't even give it as much thought as their next pizza delivery or sportsball game. I'm glad I'm getting older and closer to death. 1984 becoming reality is something I'd rather witness as I close my eyes for the last time as opposed to live through. What can we, as either credulous believers, or incredulous non-believers who would like to know more, do at this point? Other than watch 3+ hour YouTube videos that do nothing except sound in an echo-chamber? Sorry. More disillusionment showing. You are well on the right-hand side of the bell curve man. You are on a quest for knowledge like many of us here. Plus, you are very rational and keep things grounded. Yeah, a lot of noise to signal in the space right now. I like to expand my imagination and also see if I can glean something new, or something of value out of the huge mass of videos and articles, posts and tweets. I do think things are potentially a lot stranger than the reality we have been taught and what orthodoxy says. And… the “fun” in all of this is stimulating and vitalizing. That’s why I like to entertain and explore such a wide range of topics, no matter how far out. It’s fun to explore and have a sense of wonder. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: You are well on the right-hand side of the bell curve man. You are on a quest for knowledge like many of us here. Plus, you are very rational and keep things grounded. Yeah, a lot of noise to signal in the space right now. I like to expand my imagination and also see if I can glean something new, or something of value out of the huge mass of videos and articles, posts and tweets. I do think things are potentially a lot stranger than the reality we have been taught and what orthodoxy says. And the "fun" in all of this is stimulating and vitalizing. That's why I like to entertain and explore such a wide range of topics, no matter how far out. It's fun to explore and have a sense of wonder. It doesn't really get expressed better than Sq40's take - except I want to add, @Kagetora (if I may) - try to feel good, brother, if you can. We're all struggling in one way or the other. Nothing good is easy. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: If you ever do decide to go, the company I went with was called Archaeological Paths, out of Poland (I think). It was phenomenal. The first week we spent at the Mena House in Cairo (an old palace converted to a super-nice hotel). Up early for a delicious breakfast, then off to a site or museum somewhere, then lunch at a local place in Cairo, then off to another site/museum, then back to the hotel for dinner, lectures, etc. The second week we were doing the same thing on one of the cruise boats up and down the Nile from Luxor to Aswan. Plus a bus ride in a military convoy down almost to the border with Sudan to see Abu Simbel. We hit all the highlights. I crawled into the Great Pyramid and the Red Pyramid (and I've read the Bent Pyramid is open now too), ran my hands along the Sphinx, wandered in tombs in the VotK, went to Luxor, Karnak, Edfu, and a dozen other places, plus a day exploring Cairo, going to the National Museum (the old one...the new one is open now), etc. etc. etc. Trip of a lifetime for a former archaeologist with a serious interest in Egyptology. Archaeological Paths has some form of serious "in" with the government (likely just through lots of money), so most of the time it was just our group at a site, often outside of normal hours. Very cool. They're still running tours, have added new stuff over the years, and usually go in November and February when it's not surface-of-the-sun hot. I'd go again, when things settle back down to the normal dull roar in the ME for a while. ETA: Here is their site. They go other places too. And take really good care of you. It's definitely the way to take a vacation. I plan on doing more stuff like this in the future. Trying to plan everything myself gets tiresome, but it was my default until I did this and got spoiled. Archaeological Paths 
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Originally Posted By sq40: You are well on the right-hand side of the bell curve man. You are on a quest for knowledge like many of us here. Plus, you are very rational and keep things grounded. Yeah, a lot of noise to signal in the space right now. I like to expand my imagination and also see if I can glean something new, or something of value out of the huge mass of videos and articles, posts and tweets. I do think things are potentially a lot stranger than the reality we have been taught and what orthodoxy says. And… the “fun” in all of this is stimulating and vitalizing. That’s why I like to entertain and explore such a wide range of topics, no matter how far out. It’s fun to explore and have a sense of wonder. Originally Posted By Solo_: @Kagetora It doesn't really get expressed better than Sq40's take - except I want to add, @Kagetora (if I may) - try to feel good, brother, if you can. We're all struggling in one way or the other. Nothing good is easy. Thanks guys. Sometimes my mild neurospiciness (I'm about a 2 or 3 out of 10 spicy, just enough to make things interesting but I can still taste my food and intrusive thoughts ) The brain never shuts off, and it gets the worst just before bed usually. I appreciate the group putting up with my occasional randomness.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Other than watch 3+ hour YouTube videos that do nothing except sound in an echo-chamber? Are you sure? A credentialed team of academics are discussing (and risking careers about) this. And pursuing (maybe have?) peer-review. Hardly an echo-chamber. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Thanks guys. Sometimes my mild neurospiciness (I'm about a 2 or 3 out of 10 spicy, just enough to make things interesting but I can still taste my food and intrusive thoughts ) The brain never shuts off, and it gets the worst just before bed usually. I appreciate the group putting up with my occasional randomness.@brass has protected this space wonderfully - I often mention I love our corner here. And I love guns! PS re:spices, I am Italian. Like, from Italy. I still eat raw onions and garlic, often. I found (especially garlic) it's one of the best natural antibiotics out there. I literally bite it raw until I start tearing up - then drink a sip of beer with it, some bread and maybe a bit of parmigiano. Gotta love the spicy stuff!!!! 
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Are you sure? A credentialed team of academics are discussing (and risking careers about) this. And pursuing (maybe have?) peer-review. Hardly an echo-chamber. I'm sure that some of the videos fall into my category, and some of them fall into yours. I wasn't speaking of a specific video though, just a generalization about my some as opposed to your some.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Thanks guys. Sometimes my mild neurospiciness (I'm about a 2 or 3 out of 10 spicy, just enough to make things interesting but I can still taste my food and intrusive thoughts ) The brain never shuts off, and it gets the worst just before bed usually. I appreciate the group putting up with my occasional randomness.I am high functioning neurodivergent too. I was pretty awkward when young (Commander Data was my role-model), but discovered that girls rock and I learned to mask very well. But it still is a challenge every day. I just don’t think like neurotypical folks. I’ve also learned that it’s more than OK, but I like me and my quirks. I tend to have a mind for systems thinking, large systems especially where I can connect lots of dots. I tend to fall down on multitasking radically differing topics hard, to a fault. So I like puzzles that have large datasets, especially when there are hidden strands of related data. Thats why I gravitate to these topics, because they are deep and broad with a ton of small details that frequently have some lose correlation. How about you? What do you enjoy most about the topics? |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Didn't see any randomness at all - just straight up thinking. My mind does the same. @brass has protected this space wonderfully - I often mention I love our corner here. And I love guns! PS re:spices, I am Italian. Like, from Italy. I still eat raw onions and garlic, often. I found (especially garlic) it's one of the best natural antibiotics out there. I literally bite it raw until I start tearing up - then drink a sip of beer with it, some bread and maybe a bit of parmigiano. Gotta love the spicy stuff!!!! Man I love garlic, and Italian food. I could eat it every day. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: How about you? What do you enjoy most about the topics? Well, I'm aging myself badly here, but there were a few formative experiences when I was pretty young. My folks trained thoroughbreds for a living (nothing exciting, bush-league tracks in MT, AZ, CO, WA, Canada, not places like Churchill Downs or Del Mar). One night when I was 6, a jockey who rode for us, a good family friend who hung out with me and played games, assembled model planes, and stuff like that, shows up at the trailer house with his date. Says they're going to a movie, and I might enjoy it (which I'm sure also scored him some points with her ).So there I am at the theater in Great Falls, MT, sitting and waiting for a movie to start, no idea what it is. Boom. Star Wars. My young mind was BLOWN. A few years later, my folks drop me off at the same theater to see The Empire Strikes Back. I'm basically alone in the theater (weeknight), and the big reveal at the end blew that tiny little brain again. The next year, down in Phoenix, dad took me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not much left of my brain after it was blown a third time. Basically, all that and a reasonably high IQ made me into the lifelong SciFi/Fantasy nerd that I am today. To the point my first degree was in Archaeology, and if it hadn't been that, it'd have been Astronomy or Physics. I could do all the math...I just didn't enjoy it for some reason. What do I love about all these topics, from theoretical astrophysics, aliens, ancient civilizations, lost technologies, and all the rest? The absolute wonder of the possibilities. I want to know the truth, I want them to be real/proven, I want to believe. But, somewhere along the way, I took a left turn at Albuquerque and ended up way over on the "peer reviewed science" section of our program, hence me kinda sorta being a skeptical voice around here. But it doesn't mean I don't accept the possibilities, or will die on the hill of "that's impossible." Even with say, FTL, I only say it's impossible/creates causality violations because that's the current level of our knowledge on the subject, and it's stood up to all the tests we throw at it. So far. But every physicist out there will freely admit our knowledge is currently incomplete. So...maybe, just maybe, it'll turn out possible. I'm just the one in the back yelling "Hey, stay grounded...we currently think it's not." Same with many of the other topics. I love reading the discussions though. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Well, I'm aging myself badly here, but there were a few formative experiences when I was pretty young. My folks trained thoroughbreds for a living (nothing exciting, bush-league tracks in MT, AZ, CO, WA, Canada, not places like Churchill Downs or Del Mar). One night when I was 6, a jockey who rode for us, a good family friend who hung out with me and played games, assembled model planes, and stuff like that, shows up at the trailer house with his date. Says they're going to a movie, and I might enjoy it (which I'm sure also scored him some points with her ).So there I am at the theater in Great Falls, MT, sitting and waiting for a movie to start, no idea what it is. Boom. Star Wars. My young mind was BLOWN. A few years later, my folks drop me off at the same theater to see The Empire Strikes Back. I'm basically alone in the theater (weeknight), and the big reveal at the end blew that tiny little brain again. The next year, down in Phoenix, dad took me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not much left of my brain after it was blown a third time. Basically, all that and a reasonably high IQ made me into the lifelong SciFi/Fantasy nerd that I am today. To the point my first degree was in Archaeology, and if it hadn't been that, it'd have been Astronomy or Physics. I could do all the math...I just didn't enjoy it for some reason. What do I love about all these topics, from theoretical astrophysics, aliens, ancient civilizations, lost technologies, and all the rest? The absolute wonder of the possibilities. I want to know the truth, I want them to be real/proven, I want to believe. But, somewhere along the way, I took a left turn at Albuquerque and ended up way over on the "peer reviewed science" section of our program, hence me kinda sorta being a skeptical voice around here. But it doesn't mean I don't accept the possibilities, or will die on the hill of "that's impossible." Even with say, FTL, I only say it's impossible/creates causality violations because that's the current level of our knowledge on the subject, and it's stood up to all the tests we throw at it. So far. But every physicist out there will freely admit our knowledge is currently incomplete. So...maybe, just maybe, it'll turn out possible. I'm just the one in the back yelling "Hey, stay grounded...we currently think it's not." Same with many of the other topics. I love reading the discussions though. Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By sq40: How about you? What do you enjoy most about the topics? Well, I'm aging myself badly here, but there were a few formative experiences when I was pretty young. My folks trained thoroughbreds for a living (nothing exciting, bush-league tracks in MT, AZ, CO, WA, Canada, not places like Churchill Downs or Del Mar). One night when I was 6, a jockey who rode for us, a good family friend who hung out with me and played games, assembled model planes, and stuff like that, shows up at the trailer house with his date. Says they're going to a movie, and I might enjoy it (which I'm sure also scored him some points with her ).So there I am at the theater in Great Falls, MT, sitting and waiting for a movie to start, no idea what it is. Boom. Star Wars. My young mind was BLOWN. A few years later, my folks drop me off at the same theater to see The Empire Strikes Back. I'm basically alone in the theater (weeknight), and the big reveal at the end blew that tiny little brain again. The next year, down in Phoenix, dad took me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not much left of my brain after it was blown a third time. Basically, all that and a reasonably high IQ made me into the lifelong SciFi/Fantasy nerd that I am today. To the point my first degree was in Archaeology, and if it hadn't been that, it'd have been Astronomy or Physics. I could do all the math...I just didn't enjoy it for some reason. What do I love about all these topics, from theoretical astrophysics, aliens, ancient civilizations, lost technologies, and all the rest? The absolute wonder of the possibilities. I want to know the truth, I want them to be real/proven, I want to believe. But, somewhere along the way, I took a left turn at Albuquerque and ended up way over on the "peer reviewed science" section of our program, hence me kinda sorta being a skeptical voice around here. But it doesn't mean I don't accept the possibilities, or will die on the hill of "that's impossible." Even with say, FTL, I only say it's impossible/creates causality violations because that's the current level of our knowledge on the subject, and it's stood up to all the tests we throw at it. So far. But every physicist out there will freely admit our knowledge is currently incomplete. So...maybe, just maybe, it'll turn out possible. I'm just the one in the back yelling "Hey, stay grounded...we currently think it's not." Same with many of the other topics. I love reading the discussions though. Am I the only one who sees the irony of you tired of the Archeology echo chambers, yet choose peer reviewed?  Some of this stuff is just.. ideas, there's not really a way to peer review it, other than "nah nah, no you're wrong!, everybody knows you are wrong!!" MSM methods. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Am I the only one who sees the irony of you tired of the Archeology echo chambers, yet choose peer reviewed? You're not. Typically though, when I speak of peer-reviewed science, I'm not talking about archaeology. Because of the exact echo chamber you mentioned. I'm usually referring to physics, as at least those people still argue and yell at each other sometimes.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Well, I'm aging myself badly here, but there were a few formative experiences when I was pretty young. My folks trained thoroughbreds for a living (nothing exciting, bush-league tracks in MT, AZ, CO, WA, Canada, not places like Churchill Downs or Del Mar). One night when I was 6, a jockey who rode for us, a good family friend who hung out with me and played games, assembled model planes, and stuff like that, shows up at the trailer house with his date. Says they're going to a movie, and I might enjoy it (which I'm sure also scored him some points with her ).So there I am at the theater in Great Falls, MT, sitting and waiting for a movie to start, no idea what it is. Boom. Star Wars. My young mind was BLOWN. A few years later, my folks drop me off at the same theater to see The Empire Strikes Back. I'm basically alone in the theater (weeknight), and the big reveal at the end blew that tiny little brain again. The next year, down in Phoenix, dad took me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not much left of my brain after it was blown a third time. Basically, all that and a reasonably high IQ made me into the lifelong SciFi/Fantasy nerd that I am today. To the point my first degree was in Archaeology, and if it hadn't been that, it'd have been Astronomy or Physics. I could do all the math...I just didn't enjoy it for some reason. What do I love about all these topics, from theoretical astrophysics, aliens, ancient civilizations, lost technologies, and all the rest? The absolute wonder of the possibilities. I want to know the truth, I want them to be real/proven, I want to believe. But, somewhere along the way, I took a left turn at Albuquerque and ended up way over on the "peer reviewed science" section of our program, hence me kinda sorta being a skeptical voice around here. But it doesn't mean I don't accept the possibilities, or will die on the hill of "that's impossible." Even with say, FTL, I only say it's impossible/creates causality violations because that's the current level of our knowledge on the subject, and it's stood up to all the tests we throw at it. So far. But every physicist out there will freely admit our knowledge is currently incomplete. So...maybe, just maybe, it'll turn out possible. I'm just the one in the back yelling "Hey, stay grounded...we currently think it's not." Same with many of the other topics. I love reading the discussions though. Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By sq40: How about you? What do you enjoy most about the topics? Well, I'm aging myself badly here, but there were a few formative experiences when I was pretty young. My folks trained thoroughbreds for a living (nothing exciting, bush-league tracks in MT, AZ, CO, WA, Canada, not places like Churchill Downs or Del Mar). One night when I was 6, a jockey who rode for us, a good family friend who hung out with me and played games, assembled model planes, and stuff like that, shows up at the trailer house with his date. Says they're going to a movie, and I might enjoy it (which I'm sure also scored him some points with her ).So there I am at the theater in Great Falls, MT, sitting and waiting for a movie to start, no idea what it is. Boom. Star Wars. My young mind was BLOWN. A few years later, my folks drop me off at the same theater to see The Empire Strikes Back. I'm basically alone in the theater (weeknight), and the big reveal at the end blew that tiny little brain again. The next year, down in Phoenix, dad took me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not much left of my brain after it was blown a third time. Basically, all that and a reasonably high IQ made me into the lifelong SciFi/Fantasy nerd that I am today. To the point my first degree was in Archaeology, and if it hadn't been that, it'd have been Astronomy or Physics. I could do all the math...I just didn't enjoy it for some reason. What do I love about all these topics, from theoretical astrophysics, aliens, ancient civilizations, lost technologies, and all the rest? The absolute wonder of the possibilities. I want to know the truth, I want them to be real/proven, I want to believe. But, somewhere along the way, I took a left turn at Albuquerque and ended up way over on the "peer reviewed science" section of our program, hence me kinda sorta being a skeptical voice around here. But it doesn't mean I don't accept the possibilities, or will die on the hill of "that's impossible." Even with say, FTL, I only say it's impossible/creates causality violations because that's the current level of our knowledge on the subject, and it's stood up to all the tests we throw at it. So far. But every physicist out there will freely admit our knowledge is currently incomplete. So...maybe, just maybe, it'll turn out possible. I'm just the one in the back yelling "Hey, stay grounded...we currently think it's not." Same with many of the other topics. I love reading the discussions though. You aren't that much older than me. And I think science fiction had as big an impact on me as it did one you. We are so influenced by it that it shaped who we are in tangible ways. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: James is one of the best. Also got the wife watching this - she’s finishing up the 2nd half right now. He really is. His documentary on the case was exceptional. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: If you ever do decide to go, the company I went with was called Archaeological Paths, out of Poland (I think). It was phenomenal. The first week we spent at the Mena House in Cairo (an old palace converted to a super-nice hotel). Up early for a delicious breakfast, then off to a site or museum somewhere, then lunch at a local place in Cairo, then off to another site/museum, then back to the hotel for dinner, lectures, etc. The second week we were doing the same thing on one of the cruise boats up and down the Nile from Luxor to Aswan. Plus a bus ride in a military convoy down almost to the border with Sudan to see Abu Simbel. We hit all the highlights. I crawled into the Great Pyramid and the Red Pyramid (and I've read the Bent Pyramid is open now too), ran my hands along the Sphinx, wandered in tombs in the VotK, went to Luxor, Karnak, Edfu, and a dozen other places, plus a day exploring Cairo, going to the National Museum (the old one...the new one is open now), etc. etc. etc. Trip of a lifetime for a former archaeologist with a serious interest in Egyptology. Archaeological Paths has some form of serious "in" with the government (likely just through lots of money), so most of the time it was just our group at a site, often outside of normal hours. Very cool. They're still running tours, have added new stuff over the years, and usually go in November and February when it's not surface-of-the-sun hot. I'd go again, when things settle back down to the normal dull roar in the ME for a while. ETA: Here is their site. They go other places too. And take really good care of you. It's definitely the way to take a vacation. I plan on doing more stuff like this in the future. Trying to plan everything myself gets tiresome, but it was my default until I did this and got spoiled. Archaeological Paths Holy have to sell a kidney batman! $13k for the 14 day trip? And with Zahiri? Would love to do that trip with someone else and after I win the Powerball. Another thing added to the bucket list. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Before I spend 3 hours listening to the Jesse Michaels video, is there anything covered in there that wasn't covered in the 45 minute Jeremy Corbell interview a month or so ago? I really want to see his latest updated sequel from the first movie he did on this. Yes. The Neurosurgeon has come forward. And Jesse is doing this as a thing where Chris Ramsay will get other info. It’s a solid watch. |
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Originally Posted By Ender875: Holy have to sell a kidney batman! $13k for the 14 day trip? And with Zahiri? Would love to do that trip with someone else and after I win the Powerball. Another thing added to the bucket list. Yeah, it's not cheap, but it's all-inclusive of accommodations, food, your tickets to the sites, your tour guides, plane ticket to and from Luxor, etc. They take really good care of you. I mean, I went almost 10 years ago now, so it was cheaper then, and it was just me. All in, with my flight there and back, a hotel in Paris for the layover, a bajillion souvenirs I brought back, and a couple of the tour add-ons, I was in for $10k. For me, it was worth every penny. The whole Zahi Hawass part of it is overblown, like everything with him is. He is probably the most famous person in their country, or at least in the top few, so it's understandable. The group of friends that I formed there and I pretty much just sat in the back at the dinner lectures and made snarky comments when he talked mostly about himself. |
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I can't get into Bledsoe for some reason. Too many of his "summoned orbs" seem to be satellites and I don't buy a lot of his claims. I've seen it theorized that he's unknowingly participating in a disinformation campaign and it's not out of the realm of possibilities considering all his talk about the CIA and NASA, two organizations at the very center of the cover up. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I can't get into Bledsoe for some reason. Too many of his "summoned orbs" seem to be satellites and I don't buy a lot of his claims. I've seen it theorized that he's unknowingly participating in a disinformation campaign and it's not out of the realm of possibilities considering all his talk about the CIA and NASA, two organizations at the very center of the cover up. Originally Posted By Cypher214: I've seen it theorized that he's unknowingly participating in a disinformation campaign and it's not out of the realm of possibilities considering all his talk about the CIA and NASA, two organizations at the very center of the cover up. His book, UFO of God was strange. It was an autobiography. But more than that, it was a long tale of tragedies that the man has endured. Hardships, injuries, loss. The guy is a Job type figure. Very unsettling and sad. He has had financial hardships, and I cant figure if he reveals a profit motive here or just a blessing. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: His book, UFO of God was strange. It was an autobiography. But more than that, it was a long tale of tragedies that the man has endured. Hardships, injuries, loss. The guy is a Job type figure. Very unsettling and sad. He has had financial hardships, and I cant figure if he reveals a profit motive here or just a blessing. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I've seen it theorized that he's unknowingly participating in a disinformation campaign and it's not out of the realm of possibilities considering all his talk about the CIA and NASA, two organizations at the very center of the cover up. His book, UFO of God was strange. It was an autobiography. But more than that, it was a long tale of tragedies that the man has endured. Hardships, injuries, loss. The guy is a Job type figure. Very unsettling and sad. He has had financial hardships, and I cant figure if he reveals a profit motive here or just a blessing. I'm reminded of Whitley Strieber. A science fiction writer who's going broke just happens to be abducted by aliens which causes his next book to become a best seller. Too convenient. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Down on his luck and desperate for money, then he has a wild UFO/alien/angel encounter which draws a bunch of attention and garners him a book deal. The only witness is his son, who obviously has a vested interest in dad's financial success. Yeah, that's just a bit too convenient. He claims he has all these videos of the phenomenon but never shows anything more than blurry lights that could easily be satellites. He is quickly turning into a Greer-type character in the UAP space. I'm reminded of Whitley Strieber. A science fiction writer who's going broke just happens to be abducted by aliens which causes his next book to become a best seller. Too convenient. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: I've seen it theorized that he's unknowingly participating in a disinformation campaign and it's not out of the realm of possibilities considering all his talk about the CIA and NASA, two organizations at the very center of the cover up. His book, UFO of God was strange. It was an autobiography. But more than that, it was a long tale of tragedies that the man has endured. Hardships, injuries, loss. The guy is a Job type figure. Very unsettling and sad. He has had financial hardships, and I cant figure if he reveals a profit motive here or just a blessing. I'm reminded of Whitley Strieber. A science fiction writer who's going broke just happens to be abducted by aliens which causes his next book to become a best seller. Too convenient. That was the same takeaway I had with Bledsoe. He just didn’t come across as genuine. Streiber, yeah, that also makes sense. But at least his books are fairly well written and entertaining at least. And he can give a good interview. |
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New video (2 days ago) with UAPGerb. I’ve seen a few videos with him and his memory for acronyms and who was where and when is impressive. Haven’t watched yet, so not sure if there is new information or is it a rehash of already known stuff. Should be a good one regardless. The Pentagon’s UFO Program Is Real [Here’s How It Works!] ft. UAPGerb Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:32 Meet UAP Gerb 06:00 Legacy Programs 12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors 16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks 23:50 Modern Majestic 12 27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs 31:08 A Naval Perspective 32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy 37:38 Individuals in the Shadows 41:27 A Call to Action 43:04 The Office of Global Access 49:48 The Conflict of Interest 51:28 The Role of MITRE 1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside 1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle 1:15:47 Jonathan Wagan's Story 1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation 1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams 1:22:01 The DOE NEST 1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors 1:28:08 The Roswell Incident 1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement 1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistner's Testimony 1:31:55 The GAO Audit 1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex 1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies 1:44:25 Underground Military Bases 1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities 1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics 2:04:48 Marconi’s Involvement 2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang 2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research 2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure 2:26:34 The Nature of Reality 2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics 2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure 2:38:42 The Shadow Government 2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies 2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights 2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies 2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community 2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure 2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control 2:51:34 The Role of Psyops 2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs 2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure 2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research 3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability 3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative 3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience 3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse 3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: New video (2 days ago) with UAPGerb. I’ve seen a few videos with him and his memory for acronyms and who was where and when is impressive. Haven’t watched yet, so not sure if there is new information or is it a rehash of already known stuff. Should be a good one regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7g5Sn1DJF4Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:32 Meet UAP Gerb 06:00 Legacy Programs 12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors 16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks 23:50 Modern Majestic 12 27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs 31:08 A Naval Perspective 32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy 37:38 Individuals in the Shadows 41:27 A Call to Action 43:04 The Office of Global Access 49:48 The Conflict of Interest 51:28 The Role of MITRE 1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside 1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle 1:15:47 Jonathan Wagan's Story 1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation 1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams 1:22:01 The DOE NEST 1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors 1:28:08 The Roswell Incident 1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement 1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistner's Testimony 1:31:55 The GAO Audit 1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex 1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies 1:44:25 Underground Military Bases 1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities 1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics 2:04:48 Marconi’s Involvement 2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang 2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research 2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure 2:26:34 The Nature of Reality 2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics 2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure 2:38:42 The Shadow Government 2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies 2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights 2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies 2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community 2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure 2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control 2:51:34 The Role of Psyops 2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs 2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure 2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research 3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability 3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative 3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience 3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse 3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch I liked getting to listen to their take on particular alleged events as well as the rankings discussion. And also, I thought I knew too much about this stuff These two make me feel almost normal. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: New video (2 days ago) with UAPGerb. I’ve seen a few videos with him and his memory for acronyms and who was where and when is impressive. Haven’t watched yet, so not sure if there is new information or is it a rehash of already known stuff. Should be a good one regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7g5Sn1DJF4Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:32 Meet UAP Gerb 06:00 Legacy Programs 12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors 16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks 23:50 Modern Majestic 12 27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs 31:08 A Naval Perspective 32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy 37:38 Individuals in the Shadows 41:27 A Call to Action 43:04 The Office of Global Access 49:48 The Conflict of Interest 51:28 The Role of MITRE 1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside 1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle 1:15:47 Jonathan Wagan's Story 1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation 1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams 1:22:01 The DOE NEST 1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors 1:28:08 The Roswell Incident 1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement 1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistner's Testimony 1:31:55 The GAO Audit 1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex 1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies 1:44:25 Underground Military Bases 1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities 1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics 2:04:48 Marconi’s Involvement 2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang 2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research 2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure 2:26:34 The Nature of Reality 2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics 2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure 2:38:42 The Shadow Government 2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies 2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights 2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies 2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community 2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure 2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control 2:51:34 The Role of Psyops 2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs 2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure 2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research 3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability 3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative 3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience 3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse 3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch I’m about 25 mins in and holy smokes have they already covered a ton of ground. Wow. |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: I liked getting to listen to their take on particular alleged events as well as the rankings discussion. And also, I thought I knew too much about this stuff These two make me feel almost normal. Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Originally Posted By HighlanderI: New video (2 days ago) with UAPGerb. I've seen a few videos with him and his memory for acronyms and who was where and when is impressive. Haven't watched yet, so not sure if there is new information or is it a rehash of already known stuff. Should be a good one regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7g5Sn1DJF4Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:32 Meet UAP Gerb 06:00 Legacy Programs 12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors 16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks 23:50 Modern Majestic 12 27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs 31:08 A Naval Perspective 32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy 37:38 Individuals in the Shadows 41:27 A Call to Action 43:04 The Office of Global Access 49:48 The Conflict of Interest 51:28 The Role of MITRE 1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside 1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle 1:15:47 Jonathan Wagan's Story 1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation 1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams 1:22:01 The DOE NEST 1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors 1:28:08 The Roswell Incident 1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement 1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistner's Testimony 1:31:55 The GAO Audit 1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex 1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies 1:44:25 Underground Military Bases 1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities 1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics 2:04:48 Marconi's Involvement 2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang 2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research 2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure 2:26:34 The Nature of Reality 2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics 2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure 2:38:42 The Shadow Government 2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies 2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights 2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies 2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community 2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure 2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control 2:51:34 The Role of Psyops 2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs 2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure 2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research 3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability 3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative 3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience 3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse 3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch I liked getting to listen to their take on particular alleged events as well as the rankings discussion. And also, I thought I knew too much about this stuff These two make me feel almost normal. "So the program that studies alien toenail fungus is the IZPEF and they're a WW5WSAP within the ESLIII that's an acknowledged offshoot of the DPLBV which reports to the BKO63, which is housed at Tyndall AFB but only during leap years." |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: I liked getting to listen to their take on particular alleged events as well as the rankings discussion. And also, I thought I knew too much about this stuff These two make me feel almost normal. The rankings is very cool. Originally Posted By macman37: I’m about 25 mins in and holy smokes have they already covered a ton of ground. Wow. I’m at 2:56. Almost done. It’s a good thing those timestamps are in the video description as I may have to go back for a refresher since there’s too much info to remember it all. For me. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Gerb is the most autistic of all UAP researchers and it's glorious. Just the patience required to dig into programs within programs within institutions within departments within organizations is superhuman. "So the program that studies alien toenail fungus is the IZPEF and they're a WW5WSAP within the ESLIII that's an acknowledged offshoot of the DPLBV which reports to the BKO63, which is housed at Tyndall AFB but only during leap years." I almost wanted to do a screenshot of the org chart for reference. It’s likely that it isn’t 100% correct. But I’d bet that if someone in one of the legacy programs or government saw it they’d probably say “Holy shit! That’s close.” |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Gerb is the most autistic of all UAP researchers and it's glorious. Just the patience required to dig into programs within programs within institutions within departments within organizations is superhuman. "So the program that studies alien toenail fungus is the IZPEF and they're a WW5WSAP within the ESLIII that's an acknowledged offshoot of the DPLBV which reports to the BKO63, which is housed at Tyndall AFB but only during leap years." Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Originally Posted By HighlanderI: New video (2 days ago) with UAPGerb. I've seen a few videos with him and his memory for acronyms and who was where and when is impressive. Haven't watched yet, so not sure if there is new information or is it a rehash of already known stuff. Should be a good one regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7g5Sn1DJF4Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 04:32 Meet UAP Gerb 06:00 Legacy Programs 12:03 The Pyramid of Contractors 16:46 Whistleblowers and Leaks 23:50 Modern Majestic 12 27:10 Exploring the IPU Docs 31:08 A Naval Perspective 32:24 The Administrators of Secrecy 37:38 Individuals in the Shadows 41:27 A Call to Action 43:04 The Office of Global Access 49:48 The Conflict of Interest 51:28 The Role of MITRE 1:03:02 Testimony from the Inside 1:09:22 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle 1:15:47 Jonathan Wagan's Story 1:18:43 Evidence and Obfuscation 1:19:53 Crash Retrieval Teams 1:22:01 The DOE NEST 1:24:58 Agencies and Contractors 1:28:08 The Roswell Incident 1:30:25 The 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement 1:31:35 J. Andrew Kistner's Testimony 1:31:55 The GAO Audit 1:32:56 The Y-12 Complex 1:33:37 Whistleblower Testimonies 1:44:25 Underground Military Bases 1:52:44 Covert Operations and Facilities 1:56:47 UFO Crash Statistics 2:04:48 Marconi's Involvement 2:07:16 The Legacy of Eric Henry Wang 2:12:32 Interconnected Cases and Research 2:14:36 The Role of Disclosure 2:26:34 The Nature of Reality 2:28:42 Controlled Disclosure Dynamics 2:35:01 Global Superpower and Disclosure 2:38:42 The Shadow Government 2:39:28 Locations of Alien Bodies 2:40:54 Whistleblower Insights 2:43:52 Credibility of Testimonies 2:45:12 Skepticism in the UFO Community 2:47:17 The Future of Disclosure 2:49:17 Legacy Programs and Control 2:51:34 The Role of Psyops 2:54:16 The Intersection of Science and UFOs 2:56:22 Personal Aspirations for Disclosure 2:59:35 The Challenge of Truth in UFO Research 3:02:06 The Need for Public Accountability 3:04:20 Navigating the UFO Narrative 3:07:13 The Importance of Human Experience 3:10:08 Closing Remarks on UFO Discourse 3:12:41 American Alchemy Merch Launch I liked getting to listen to their take on particular alleged events as well as the rankings discussion. And also, I thought I knew too much about this stuff These two make me feel almost normal. "So the program that studies alien toenail fungus is the IZPEF and they're a WW5WSAP within the ESLIII that's an acknowledged offshoot of the DPLBV which reports to the BKO63, which is housed at Tyndall AFB but only during leap years." It’s been a long time since I had to skip back this often in a podcast “what was that?!”Also, the sheer number of governmental organizations that he can reel off is staggering to me. There’s no “DOD/DOW” … it’s that plus a pile of dozens if not hundreds of governmental entities plus NGOs plus this new term for government owned but privately staffed organizations!?! |
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Finished the UAP Gerb show finally today. What a great pod. It starts good and just snowballs - Gerb (Sammy?) is an absolute storehouse of knowledge on the government side of things in particular. I was a little surprised that Michels called out Chase Hughes and AJ from the Why Files as probably government dis/misinfo sources. I’m sure he has his reasons. The last bit had a very interesting turn where they asked each other who their least credible sources were, and it lead in to who’s the most credible as well. Great discussion. Highly recommend. |
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Soli Deo Gloria
 “He Told Me How They Summon UFOs!" - Marine Whistleblower (ft. Michael Herrera & Jesse Michels) |
 "I Know People Who Interviewed Aliens at Area 51!” - Danny Sheehan |
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That is a truly remarkable clip. The fact that someone would look at one and say “Thats a demon and I don’t believe anything it says” may be the lynchpin of this. Our ancestors have warned us about these things for millennia. They say Our planet was devastated due to these things. |
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson