Hey sus was a refugee, Jesus was from Nazareth.  

Fuck these people, fuck their “christian” enablers that are probably getting a kickback out of this.

“Pay unto Caesar Caesar’s things, but God’s things unto God.  

Jesus actual words.

Caesar is representative of civil authority, governmental authority, which enforces borders.  

These people are just greedy people.

Jesus didn’t break any Egyptian law.

Just like every other law abiding immigrant that did it the right way.

Mary and Joseph had no intention of staying in Egypt either.

Call me crazy but this ‘ancient’ history interests me far more than the article in the OP.

Thanks to both of you for arguing and turning an otherwise mundane thread about modern politics into a great (redemptive) history refresher.

Very few basements in Texas.

Commercial doesn't jive with scripture, but then again, is that really a surprise?

1. Joseph and Mary didn't flee to Bethlehem to escape atrocities. They went there to be counted in a census.

2. Jesus wasn't even born yet when Joseph and Mary traveled to Bethlehem.

3. Joseph, Mary, and Jesus weren't homeless. Joseph was a middle class carpenter, probably owned a business, and lived in Nazareth.

Yet another example of why leftists hate truth and must lie to advance their agenda.

The people that make these videos and want money to support this don't believe in the Jesus or God of the Bible.
Also, why don't they raise money and make these better in the countries these people are coming from?

Pilot would eventually be the Roman Governor of Palestine but wasn't at the time of Jesus' birth. It was Herod, the Jewish King (propped up by Rome) who knew about Jesus' birth and feared the boy growing up to be a rival to his power and influence. Herod is the one who issued a decree to kill all boys that were born in that timeframe in Bethlehem. Rome didn't give a shit either way, as long as taxes continued to be paid and nobody rebelled.

Yes, Joseph then took Mary and Jesus to Egypt, as it was relatively safe because Herod's decree didn't mean anything there, as it was a different part/province of the Roman Empire. After Herod died and the danger passed, Joseph took Mary and Jesus back to Palestine.

Basically, virtually nothing in that commercial was true. Surprise surprise.

Yea I saw that fag shit. Played during Yellowstone. I hate paramount, they’re degenerate pedophile commies.

1. Jesus was not a refugee

2. No one crossing our border illegally is a refugee.

3. What are these fags solutions for human trafficking, drug trafficking? Not only do they not have one, they’re in on it.

If some Central American country was killing every firstborn male I’d support refugees.

But reality is, if any nation that close to us was that bad, they’d 1) probably be funded by us already 2) if not, we’d hear a constant sales pitch to help them ($$), 3) refugees from such a place could land anywhere in Mexico without needing to come here for any particular reason.

Eta: and 4) if they were genuine refugees, I’d be happy to accept them as long as they (in actual fact) renounce their communistic ideas.

Also relevant, they didn't go all the way to Rome because they'd heard the money was better there.

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So, uh, when do we start crucifying the immigrants?

Hates Paramount and degenerate, perverse behavior. Watches and presumably enjoys Yellowstone. Never stop being you, GD.

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Except, he was a refugee. Half the posters here are confusing the Christmas story with the flight into Egypt, they aren't thinking as much as they are knee jerk rationalizing.

You are least were being honest with your gut reaction, others just throw more paint on it.

If some central American country was killing every firstborn make, it still wouldn't explain why their families would need to cross all the way through Mexico and into the the U.S. to escape it.

87% of this "refugee" stuff is likely Leftist activists who have coached this "caravans" on what to say, since the first waves of people storming across the border were such bad optics.

We’ll probably need “refugees”after the \/ kills off folks for a few years.

They were refugees at a point when they fled Herod's decree to kill all the male children under 2 years of age. They fled to Egypt ( Matt 2:13-14 ) and returned to Israel ( Matt:19-22 )

Matthew 2:16-18
New King James Version
Massacre of the Innocents

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was deceived by the wise men, was exceedingly angry; and he sent forth and put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the wise men. 17 Then was fulfilled what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying:

18 “A voice was heard in Ramah,
Lamentation, weeping, and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
Refusing to be comforted,
Because they are no more.”

Now, the leftist socialists will make a false equivalency out to this verse ( they didn't go to Egypt for the Gov. to take care of them, and planned to return home when it was safe ), then argue that this event didn't happen when they claim the Bible is a fairy tale.....

Should have picked a thumbnail that doesn't show a fat woman leading a pack of fatties to the border if they want me to buy the refugee line lol.

That's because the pay for those jobs in today's dollars is much lower than it was when Americans did them.  Fix the economy so low skilled workers can afford a better lifestyle than "better than Mexico" and you'll see Americans taking those jobs.

Anyone else notice as the illegals are fleeing the fighting in their country the fighter cleaning his guns is the only white guy in the commercial?  Guess white guys are going down and running them out of their countries now?

Exactly as the makers of that crappy commercial intended.
Most of America is Biblically illiterate.

Refugee? Weren’t his parents returning to their birthplace so they could be taxed? That’s what I remember from Sunday school.

Lil while ago. I has to sit thru training for trafficking due to my job.
Put on by a third party.
A " non profit" .
They produce and release training vids using real victim's in the series.( well produced and edited )
The person teaching was spot on image of a hippy girl.
How had lil knowledge of the subject...
Then told us flat out the more views they get on thir vids and the more donations they get it goes to the " paid" victim's who tell thier story through the series...and it helps make the videos.
The paid victim's..ironically run thier own non profit. " charity/advocate " set ups....

There were a bunch of commercials during the Ohio State Georgia game last night promoting leftist bullshit.  I rarely watch commercial TV anymore, so it was quite jarring.  And the leftists call conservatives brainwashed.  

Someone has mentioned that this is part of the Liberal plan and that they have no interest in Christianity other than using it to further the "reset".

With that in mind...........

Has any research been done on comparing the percentages of Christians in both political parties ?

This.  The "He Gets Us" campaign has been pretty consistently lambasted by many religious.  The anonymous private investors part really makes no sense.  There is little to no religion in the campaign, and it also steers people toward groups that do not hold to Scripture.

You bet.  I really like antiquity too.  

His mentions of Pilate are odd since Pilate's presence doesn't really shed light on Judea's status at Jesus' birth.

But...

By coincidence, I've done just a little reading about Pilate recently.  What little we know about him makes him an interesting, and a bit of tragic, figure IMO.

He's made governor of Judea mid to late 20s and serves about 10 years.  At first I think he must have had a decent career - I mean who wouldn't want that kind of job stability for a decade.

But, it suggests that he wasn't that great of a governor.  Provinces like Judea were kind of entry level gigs and, had he done a good job, he would have been promoted to a more prominent position.  Instead, history says that Judea was tumultuous under his governorship and Rome wasn't very happy with him because of it.  He seemed to like to insult the Jew's sensibility.  Luke mentions that he mixed the blood of Galileans with sacrifices, Josephus mentions that he caused a big riot in Jerusalem when he snuck in the Emperor's standard and bust at night.  Apparently there were several occasions when Rome put him on notice that he needed to keep the peace better, but he didn't learn.  Josephus said eventually Pilate massacred a bunch of Jews in the mid thirties which led to him being recalled by Rome and retired.  Tertullian (I think) said that shortly afterward Pilate relocated to Gaul (modern France) and committed suicide.

That kind of gives us some insight to what Pilate was thinking when Jesus was brought to him.  Pilate didn't care about Jewish laws and may have been inclined to free Jesus just to keep the priests in their place.  But, he knew that he'd get in trouble if there was another riot in the city so, when he saw that he lost the crowd, washed his hands of it and handed Jesus over.

That sort of makes him sound like a miserable middle manager.

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.

Not sure what Jesus being a refugee from a direct attempt on his life has to do with all the economic migrants claiming refugee status because they come from countries with a lot of crime.

Bullshit. What denomination is behind this shit? Lemme guess.

Lutheran Satire:  The Political "I Don't Care" Song

Well, he made it to rose parade

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This doesn't surprise me a bit.  


Judas Goats.