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10/31/2007 4:58:22 PM EDT
Hi gents.  While GD's expertise is marital advice, I hope you will not lead me in the wrong direction with job advice.

Here's the deal: I applied for a job that I have been after for a while.  Of all the applicants, about twenty were selected for interviews.  Of those twenty, I was the one selected for the job.  

However, the offer they made me is way less than my current pay.  It is actually the bare minimum allowed under that position.  I told them today that I would be taking a large paycut and ask them to reconsider the offer.  The HR folks asked to make a counter-offer which would be considered by the manager that requested me.

Here's my conundrum:

Do I ask for something in the middle or go all out and ask for the maximum allowed under the position?  Will me asking for max make them say, "Screw this asshole?"

When I negotiated for my current job, I asked for the maximum and I got it.  However, that was a bit different because I was the only applicant and they needed me badly.  Whereas here, I am competing with twenty other applicants.

What do you think the chances are: will they go for the lowest bidder or have they decided on the person (me) and will try their best to accomodate me.  I should mention that if I ask for the maximum, it is still less than what I make now, but counting benefits is a much better deal.

Poll coming.


10/31/2007 5:00:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Never go backwards. You have a job now so you aren't desperate. Ask for the max.

eta,,,,,, I was offered a lot more than I asked for in the current job that I have.
10/31/2007 5:00:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Here's the deal:  if you don't need the job, counter what you think the position is worth.  It is best to use data from salary.com to back up your assertions.

NEVER TAKE A PAY CUT UNLESS YOU ARE UNEMPLOYED!!!!!!!
10/31/2007 5:01:19 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Never go backwards. You have a job now so you aren't desperate. Ask for the max.


I should mention that my current job will not last for much more than a couple of years.
10/31/2007 5:04:54 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Never go backwards. You have a job now so you aren't desperate. Ask for the max.


I should mention that my current job will not last for much more than a couple of years.


Then you have plenty of time to market your skills elsewhere.
10/31/2007 5:32:23 PM EDT
[#5]
I'd go a small amount down from the absolute maximum..but stay way to the high side of the position.

You may find out that once you get hired, that's your wage for a good long time..better be happy with it starting out.
10/31/2007 6:13:31 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:


You may find out that once you get hired, that's your wage for a good long time..better be happy with it starting out.


Yeah, it's pretty much guaranteed that I would not get a raise for at least two years.