Posted: 1/18/2014 2:09:06 PM EDT
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Out kitchen needs new lights. The existing lights are 1974 recessed lights that are broken; repairing them is not an option. No matter what we do, we'll have to patch the ceiling, because the holes are 8 1/4" square. One option is new recessed lights in the existing holes, and just patch around them. My husband thinks we should put in 3 rows of track lights and just patch the holes completely. I'm undecided and don't have any strong opinions. The only possibly complicating factor is that the ceiling is only 7 feet. Thanks for the help! Pictures of the kitchen.    |
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Quoted: Whatever way you go, I would scrape the ceiling, patch holes, cut out new ones for lighting, paint and then install new lights. Getting popcorn ceiling patches to look good is a PITA  We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly.
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That's what I'm worried about, matching the texture. Scraping the popcorn is also annoying though. We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. Quoted:
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Whatever way you go, I would scrape the ceiling, patch holes, cut out new ones for lighting, paint and then install new lights. Getting popcorn ceiling patches to look good is a PITA We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. Have y'all tested the ceiling for asbestos? The LED panel lights posted previously coupled with some under cabinet lighting look like a good option. |
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That's what I'm worried about, matching the texture. Scraping the popcorn is also annoying though. We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. Quoted:
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Whatever way you go, I would scrape the ceiling, patch holes, cut out new ones for lighting, paint and then install new lights. Getting popcorn ceiling patches to look good is a PITA We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. That fixture I posted would require you to cut a bigger hole...it is 12" x 12". You wouldn't need to recreate the popcorn ceiling or patch... |
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That's what I'm worried about, matching the texture. Scraping the popcorn is also annoying though. We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. Quoted:
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Whatever way you go, I would scrape the ceiling, patch holes, cut out new ones for lighting, paint and then install new lights. Getting popcorn ceiling patches to look good is a PITA We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. Getting the popcorn down is not hard... That's about 3 hours if you're half assing it. Empty the kitchen, setup some scaffolding that puts you about 6" from the ceiling with a scraper. Have your helper move you around as you scrape. Add the new lights - recessed cans or flush tracks and then tape and float and paint. Spend 2 hours with the shop vac and then move back in. Viola. Shazam. Done. |
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Quoted: That fixture I posted would require you to cut a bigger hole...it is 12" x 12". You wouldn't need to recreate the popcorn ceiling or patch... Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whatever way you go, I would scrape the ceiling, patch holes, cut out new ones for lighting, paint and then install new lights. Getting popcorn ceiling patches to look good is a PITA We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. That fixture I posted would require you to cut a bigger hole...it is 12" x 12". You wouldn't need to recreate the popcorn ceiling or patch... I saw the fixture, and I'm sorry I didn't post. I was on my phone and forgot I had that tab open.  I'll keep the square recessed as an option. It's interesting - the people in the lighting department at Home Depot didn't mention that one. |
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Quoted: Getting the popcorn down is not hard... That's about 3 hours if you're half assing it. Empty the kitchen, setup some scaffolding that puts you about 6" from the ceiling with a scraper. Have your helper move you around as you scrape. Add the new lights - recessed cans or flush tracks and then tape and float and paint. Spend 2 hours with the shop vac and then move back in. Viola. Shazam. Done. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whatever way you go, I would scrape the ceiling, patch holes, cut out new ones for lighting, paint and then install new lights. Getting popcorn ceiling patches to look good is a PITA We'll probably end up scraping it just because popcorn is ugly. Getting the popcorn down is not hard... That's about 3 hours if you're half assing it. Empty the kitchen, setup some scaffolding that puts you about 6" from the ceiling with a scraper. Have your helper move you around as you scrape. Add the new lights - recessed cans or flush tracks and then tape and float and paint. Spend 2 hours with the shop vac and then move back in. Viola. Shazam. Done. I can reach the ceiling just standing on the floor. Which is why we'll most likely rip off the popcorn no matter what we end up doing. We won't get to it this weekend though, today's agenda is cutting down a tree. |
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When you are ready to scrape the ceiling, boil water and put it in a sprayer. The kind you use for weeds. Then pump it up and spray the popcorn with a mist. Don't go too light on the spray. Get it wet. Wait 4-5 minutes and scrape. It will come off in big long globs and you won't fight the dust. I did some cielings in my old house and this worked like a charm. I agree with above. 3 hrs max. |
| Replace with can lighting for general ambience, then do under cabinet LED lighting directed for the areas you actually need it (on the counters!) While you're at it, do a drop hood over your flat top for better ventilation (You can extend that lift up cabinet to the right of the flat top [assuming you're standing at the flattop to use it] and just mount an overrange microwave there and free up more counter top) Bitches love counter tops. |
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Quoted: How high is your roof? Have you thought of maybe putting in a sky light? I dunno, it might be an option. Quoted: How high is your roof? Have you thought of maybe putting in a sky light? I dunno, it might be an option. There's a bathroom above it. A skylight would be nice! Quoted: Replace with can lighting for general ambience, then do under cabinet LED lighting directed for the areas you actually need it (on the counters!) While you're at it, do a drop hood over your flat top for better ventilation (You can extend that lift up cabinet to the right of the flat top [assuming you're standing at the flattop to use it] and just mount an overrange microwave there and free up more counter top) Bitches love counter tops. I'll look at cabinet lighting. That would probably help a lot with the dark corners. As for the range hood, I don't know what good it would do, since it would be venting into the space between the 1st and 2nd floors. Yes, we *DO* like counter space, that's my biggest complaint AND my husband's biggest complaint about the kitchen. That microwave just barely doesn't fit in the space between the cabinets. The space is too small by like 1/4-inch.  |
| BTw, I like your backsplash, and that it goes all the way up. As for ducting out an exhaust line, it's not too hard, assuming your joists go the right way... looks like you've got room to run the exhaust pipe (all you NEED is a 4" gap, but bigger is awesomer) and you've got your HVAC registers right there... But yeah, the undercabinet LED lighting is pretty awesome. better than flourescents and floods. Inspired LED And they're super easy to install too. |
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Quoted: BTw, I like your backsplash, and that it goes all the way up. As for ducting out an exhaust line, it's not too hard, assuming your joists go the right way... looks like you've got room to run the exhaust pipe (all you NEED is a 4" gap, but bigger is awesomer) and you've got your HVAC registers right there... But yeah, the undercabinet LED lighting is pretty awesome. better than flourescents and floods. Inspired LED And they're super easy to install too. The backsplash came with the house, and I like it. I hate trying to clean walls. I'll mention the rangehood and ducting to my husband and ask him which way the joists go. The picture gallery of LED lighting on that site makes them seem pretty awesome. Are they really that bright? |