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1/12/2015 1:10:19 PM EDT
For Christmas I got a Lymann Trigger Pull Scale.  I have a G21 and G19 I put 3.5 ghost connectors and 1+ pound trigger springs which someone told me was the was to go. Don't know the pull before the change.

Here's the results.  G21 is at 5.3 oz  G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5.
Here are some I was surprised about:
               well shot STI Edge which I thought had an awesome trigger...5.5!
               Colt Gold Cup  4.14
               Ruger 22/45  3.14
               Kimber Custom Shop 3.13
               Springfield Trophy Match 5.4
               XDM9     6.15
              Aug A3 with a neu-trigger 9.10
              Armalite AR with Chip McCormmick trigger, not sure which one I bought it's been a while 5.4

I have a very early model S&W Sigma 9 and for all you trigger haters......9.11 you were right, worst in the lot.  All are 5 pull averages. All have over 500 rounds thru them.
I won't even start on the revolvers. Every trigger was heavier than I thought it would be. Have you tested yours or are you guessing?
1/12/2015 1:21:29 PM EDT
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For the most part I just shoot them the way they are. I don't compete. I finally broke down and put a cmc trigger in my latest AR, it is very nice but I have never measured the pull and never will. I can hit my target so it's GTG, and it sure feels nice.
1/12/2015 1:22:47 PM EDT
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"Here's the results. G21 is at 5.3 oz G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5"

oz???

Are you sure you know your trigger pull weight?
1/12/2015 1:23:06 PM EDT
[#3]
There's a lot more to a good trigger than just the weight of pull
1/12/2015 1:23:55 PM EDT
[#4]
1911  1.5#

2011. 2.0#

220   5.0 /2.5

1/12/2015 1:35:18 PM EDT
[#5]
No idea.
1/12/2015 1:35:23 PM EDT
[#6]
the 3.5 connector does not give you a 3.5# pull in a glock. not sure where you heard that. its 4.5# and the +1 spring sounds right to me.


ruger super blackhawk hunter 1.75#.  
1/12/2015 1:37:33 PM EDT
[#7]
who cares
1/12/2015 1:52:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes.  I have a trigger pull gauge, too
1/12/2015 2:40:23 PM EDT
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I hook a rod over trigger and lift a box of bullets. Add or remove bullets until the trigger stops breaking. Weigh all that stuff on a postal scale. That's the most accurate way to test trigger weight.

It sucks to travel for matches and not have a trigger make weight. Never again.
1/12/2015 2:42:29 PM EDT
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I hook a rod over trigger and lift a box of bullets. Add or remove bullets until the trigger stops breaking. Weigh all that stuff on a postal scale. That's the most accurate way to test trigger weight.

It sucks to travel for matches and not have a trigger make weight. Never again.
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Water.
1/12/2015 2:42:38 PM EDT
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I have a trigger pull gauge that I have never even once used to test trigger pull weights

I use it to fit extractors in 1911s
1/12/2015 2:52:31 PM EDT
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Why do you need a special trigger pull scale? I attached some 1/2" webbing to a generic hang scale.
1/12/2015 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Pounds, lbs. dude, not ounces, oz.

Didn't your mama teach you anything?
1/12/2015 3:38:03 PM EDT
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OP has the 'Cartel Trigger Scale'.  Only does ounces and kilos.
1/12/2015 3:38:17 PM EDT
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He doesn't know his pull weights either, apparently
1/12/2015 3:42:32 PM EDT
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Pounds, lbs. dude, not ounces, oz.

Didn't your mama teach you anything?


He doesn't know his pull weights either, apparently

And once again a well intentioned post is derailed and goes barreling down a dirt road to Tard City.
1/12/2015 3:43:01 PM EDT
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I wouldn't think any selfloading, centerfire firearm with a 3-4 oz. trigger pull could even be considered safe.
1/12/2015 3:46:30 PM EDT
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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.

I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...
1/12/2015 3:55:35 PM EDT
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For Christmas I got a Lymann Trigger Pull Scale.  I have a G21 and G19 I put 3.5 ghost connectors and 1+ pound trigger springs which someone told me was the was to go. Don't know the pull before the change.

Here's the results.  G21 is at 5.3 oz  G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5.
Here are some I was surprised about:
               well shot STI Edge which I thought had an awesome trigger...5.5!
               Colt Gold Cup  4.14
               Ruger 22/45  3.14
               Kimber Custom Shop 3.13
               Springfield Trophy Match 5.4
               XDM9     6.15
              Aug A3 with a neu-trigger 9.10
              Armalite AR with Chip McCormmick trigger, not sure which one I bought it's been a while 5.4

I have a very early model S&W Sigma 9 and for all you trigger haters......9.11 you were right, worst in the lot.  All are 5 pull averages. All have over 500 rounds thru them.
I won't even start on the revolvers. Every trigger was heavier than I thought it would be. Have you tested yours or are you guessing?
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i have never done either of them. how does knowing the number of lbs on your trigger help you shoot any better?
1/12/2015 4:03:55 PM EDT
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Pounds, lbs. dude, not ounces, oz.

Didn't your mama teach you anything?


He doesn't know his pull weights either, apparently

And once again a well intentioned post is derailed and goes barreling down a dirt road to Tard City.


"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"That and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee."
1/12/2015 4:05:19 PM EDT
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this.. a 4lb crisp can feel better than a shitty 2.5lb..
1/12/2015 4:09:55 PM EDT
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this.. a 4lb crisp can feel better than a shitty 2.5lb..
2.5 feels better when you're slapping it.



 
1/12/2015 4:11:22 PM EDT
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2.5 feels better when you're slapping it.
 
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this.. a 4lb crisp can feel better than a shitty 2.5lb..
2.5 feels better when you're slapping it.
 


no for a slap trigger you drop it to a nice 10 Oz..
1/12/2015 4:14:12 PM EDT
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Where can you get a cup of coffee for 50 cents?
1/12/2015 5:13:17 PM EDT
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Used an electronic scale on a bunch of different guns.  Multiple times on each gun.  Got a different weight each time on the same gun.  Some differed by as much as 1/2 pound, maybe more.  That's been more than a few years ago.  Would be interesting to weight each one multiple times again.
1/12/2015 5:14:46 PM EDT
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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"That and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee."


Where can you get a cup of coffee for 50 cents?

Tard City.
1/12/2015 5:22:12 PM EDT
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Pounds, lbs. dude, not ounces, oz.



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I use metric, so that's Newton-meters per cubic liter, I think.



 
1/12/2015 5:23:09 PM EDT
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While I agree that's good to know, simply "knowing" your trigger is best whatever the #. Knowing it's creep, how it stacks, breaks, and resets.
1/12/2015 8:37:16 PM EDT
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"Here's the results. G21 is at 5.3 oz G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5"

oz???

Are you sure you know your trigger pull weight?
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I think. it 5 lbs and 3 oz and the 19 is 4 lbs 1 oz  oz is the abbrevaiton for ounces no?
1/12/2015 8:42:25 PM EDT
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I think. it 5 lbs and 3 oz and the 19 is 4 lbs 1 oz  oz is the abbrevaiton for ounces no?
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"Here's the results. G21 is at 5.3 oz G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5"

oz???

Are you sure you know your trigger pull weight?


I think. it 5 lbs and 3 oz and the 19 is 4 lbs 1 oz  oz is the abbrevaiton for ounces no?

Yeah. Though 5.3oz is nowhere near the same as 5lbs 3oz.
1/12/2015 8:45:04 PM EDT
[#31]
No, but bring you trigger pull gauge to PA and we can check them out.
1/12/2015 8:47:45 PM EDT
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For Christmas I got a Lymann Trigger Pull Scale.  I have a G21 and G19 I put 3.5 ghost connectors and 1+ pound trigger springs which someone told me was the was to go. Don't know the pull before the change.

Here's the results.  G21 is at 5.3 oz  G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5.
Here are some I was surprised about:
               well shot STI Edge which I thought had an awesome trigger...5.5!
               Colt Gold Cup  4.14
               Ruger 22/45  3.14
               Kimber Custom Shop 3.13
               Springfield Trophy Match 5.4
               XDM9     6.15
              Aug A3 with a neu-trigger 9.10
              Armalite AR with Chip McCormmick trigger, not sure which one I bought it's been a while 5.4

I have a very early model S&W Sigma 9 and for all you trigger haters......9.11 you were right, worst in the lot.  All are 5 pull averages. All have over 500 rounds thru them.
I won't even start on the revolvers. Every trigger was heavier than I thought it would be. Have you tested yours or are you guessing?
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A trigger does not have to be light to be considered good
1/12/2015 10:22:20 PM EDT
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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.

I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...
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By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.
1/12/2015 10:51:00 PM EDT
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There is more to a good trigger than pull weight. smooth take up, a crisp break and a short positive reset are what I like. between 5 & 8 pounds is fine. a sloppy 3# trigger feels worse to me that a good 6# trigger.
1/12/2015 11:12:09 PM EDT
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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.



I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...




By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.






  I guess he never knew the difference between Butter & Margarine



  the SSA is 4.5lbs



  the SSA-E is 3.5lbs



 
1/12/2015 11:18:04 PM EDT
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By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.
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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.

I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...


By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.


Last I checked, my good triggers do not feel like "butter" either....


1/12/2015 11:20:36 PM EDT
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By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.
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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.

I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...


By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.


Do you know how I know you haven't seen Tropic Thunder?

Never go Full Retard.
1/12/2015 11:23:09 PM EDT
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Last I checked, my good triggers do not feel like "butter" either....


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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.

I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...


By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.


Last I checked, my good triggers do not feel like "butter" either....




"You like how your AR (that I built for you) shoots?" - Me, yesterday at the range.

"I love it, and the trigger is like buttah..." - My wife.

I'll be sure to tell her you disagree...
1/12/2015 11:23:11 PM EDT
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... have you calibrated the scale?
1/12/2015 11:24:05 PM EDT
[#40]
i don't know the number, and i don't think it's important to know the number.

what's important is to know how the trigger pull feels.
1/12/2015 11:24:55 PM EDT
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I hook a rod over trigger and lift a box of bullets. Add or remove bullets until the trigger stops breaking. Weigh all that stuff on a postal scale. That's the most accurate way to test trigger weight.



It sucks to travel for matches and not have a trigger make weight. Never again.


Water.
Underwater weighing test?



 
1/12/2015 11:27:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Don't think OP is to clear on what the hell he's doing
1/13/2015 12:07:12 AM EDT
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By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.
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I don't know the exact pull weight of my Geissele SSA.

I just know it feels like butter, when it takes a man's life...


By man, you mean drawing of on paper. It's ok, we know you're a tough guy.

1/13/2015 12:10:01 AM EDT
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I think. it 5 lbs and 3 oz and the 19 is 4 lbs 1 oz  oz is the abbrevaiton for ounces no?
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"Here's the results. G21 is at 5.3 oz G19 4.1oz. Not bad but not 3.5"

oz???

Are you sure you know your trigger pull weight?


I think. it 5 lbs and 3 oz and the 19 is 4 lbs 1 oz  oz is the abbrevaiton for ounces no?

5 pounds 3 ounces is not abbreviated 5.3 oz.
my boy is in kindergarden and is learning these things.
are you old enough to own a gun?
1/13/2015 12:26:14 AM EDT
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You just got served by J75Player. That's embarrassing on any day of the week.
1/13/2015 1:36:43 AM EDT
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i have a gun with 1/3rd oz pull weight and .003" travel. lyman doesnt go low enough.
1/13/2015 2:17:50 AM EDT
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Just weigh it in grains. 1/3 of an ounce is 145.8333 grains