[ARCHIVED THREAD] - LEO Courtesy Cards (Page 1 of 4)
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If anyone thinks a cop is gonna get one of those cards handed to him and give someone a break is a fool.
Name dropping is an automatic ticket. Quoted:
They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. Somebody hands me a card with "PBA" on it, I'm gonna ask them why they think being a professional bowler is any of my interest. |
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Quoted: If anyone thinks a cop is gonna get one of those cards handed to him and give someone a break is a fool. Name dropping is an automatic ticket. Quoted: They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. Somebody hands me a card with "PBA" on it, I'm gonna ask them why they think being a professional bowler is any of my interest. "Unless that card is your driver's license, you can just hold on to it. I don't need it." |
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For those LEOs out there that say they don't want anything other than license and/or insurance, well, when I was on active duty I would present my military ID card as well. Not to try and "get out of a ticket" but because my license was "expired" which my state allowed (and the license was still considered valid by the way*) as long as the member was still on active duty.
Figured it was easier than handing an "expired" license over, then having the LEO write me a ticket for expired license when it wasn't the case. So, there you go. Sometimes you do need something besides the license and/or insurance. 
*For those that have never left their home state and are unfamiliar with other states DMVs, some states don't allow you to renew by mail/phone/etc. It has to be done in person. So for people that are serving they just give you a card that explains the license remains valid while member is serving in the armed forces, until the member returns to the home state and has the opportunity to renew the license. |
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Quoted: For those LEOs out there that say they don't want anything other than license and/or insurance, well, when I was on active duty I would present my military ID card as well. Not to try and "get out of a ticket" but because my license was "expired" which my state allowed (and the license was still considered valid by the way*) as long as the member was still on active duty. Figured it was easier than handing an "expired" license over, then having the LEO write me a ticket for expired license when it wasn't the case. So, there you go. Sometimes you do need something besides the license and/or insurance. *For those that have never left their home state and are unfamiliar with other states DMVs, some states don't allow you to renew by mail/phone/etc. It has to be done in person. So for people that are serving they just give you a card that explains the license remains valid while member is serving in the armed forces, until the member returns to the home state and has the opportunity to renew the license. That's easily handled by answering my question of, "Do you know your license is expired? Can you provide me an explanation as to why you're driving on an expired license?" |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've actually had an officer jump out of his POV in plain clothes to yell at me about pulling him over because "can't you see my FOP tag". Did you write them anyway? Of course! "Sir please return to your vehicle, I will be with you in a moment" Most citizens get drawn down on when they jump out of their vehicle in a confrontative manner during a traffic stop.  |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've actually had an officer jump out of his POV in plain clothes to yell at me about pulling him over because "can't you see my FOP tag". Did you write them anyway? Of course! "Sir please return to your vehicle, I will be with you in a moment" Most citizens get drawn down on when they jump out of their vehicle in a confrontative manner during a traffic stop. Only if you have a weapon.  Or if I'm having a bad day.  |
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I don't have a problem with this. Officer discretion is legal (which I don't think should be), but as long as it is, may as well have a card.
I do get a little peeved every time I see someone roll through a stop sign (something I've gotten a ticket before) right in front of a cop. How come I didn't get any of that officer discretion love? I'm about as law abiding a citizen as there is. I told the officer, nobody was around and I cleared all 3 ways before I went. I don't see how what I did was unsafe. Rolling through stop signs can cause accidents he said. Well if that's true, why do they look the other when a soccer mom rolls through in her minivan, but pulls me over (I drive a subaru GT with a spoiler)? |
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Quoted: I don't have a problem with this. Officer discretion is legal (which I don't think should be), but as long as it is, may as well have a card. I do get a little peeved every time I see someone roll through a stop sign (something I've gotten a ticket before) right in front of a cop. How come I didn't get any of that officer discretion love? I'm about as law abiding a citizen as there is. I told the officer, nobody was around and I cleared all 3 ways before I went. I don't see how what I did was unsafe. Rolling through stop signs can cause accidents he said. Well if that's true, why do they look the other when a soccer mom rolls through in her minivan, but pulls me over (I drive a subaru GT with a spoiler)? so officer discretion should be illegal? |
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For those LEOs out there that say they don't want anything other than license and/or insurance, well, when I was on active duty I would present my military ID card as well. Not to try and "get out of a ticket" but because my license was "expired" which my state allowed (and the license was still considered valid by the way*) as long as the member was still on active duty. Figured it was easier than handing an "expired" license over, then having the LEO write me a ticket for expired license when it wasn't the case. So, there you go. Sometimes you do need something besides the license and/or insurance.
*For those that have never left their home state and are unfamiliar with other states DMVs, some states don't allow you to renew by mail/phone/etc. It has to be done in person. So for people that are serving they just give you a card that explains the license remains valid while member is serving in the armed forces, until the member returns to the home state and has the opportunity to renew the license. That's easily handled by answering my question of, "Do you know your license is expired? Can you provide me an explanation as to why you're driving on an expired license?" lol You do your thing and I'll do mine. I have a "current" license now. |
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Quoted: I felt dirty after looking at that website... Attitude works better than any card. Dick with a card = ticket / jail Respectful / realized the mistake = usually a break That's been my technique for years. It's worked about 80 percent of the time. The rest, eh , I earned it may as well get caught up on traffic school |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For those LEOs out there that say they don't want anything other than license and/or insurance, well, when I was on active duty I would present my military ID card as well. Not to try and "get out of a ticket" but because my license was "expired" which my state allowed (and the license was still considered valid by the way*) as long as the member was still on active duty. Figured it was easier than handing an "expired" license over, then having the LEO write me a ticket for expired license when it wasn't the case. So, there you go. Sometimes you do need something besides the license and/or insurance. *For those that have never left their home state and are unfamiliar with other states DMVs, some states don't allow you to renew by mail/phone/etc. It has to be done in person. So for people that are serving they just give you a card that explains the license remains valid while member is serving in the armed forces, until the member returns to the home state and has the opportunity to renew the license. That's easily handled by answering my question of, "Do you know your license is expired? Can you provide me an explanation as to why you're driving on an expired license?" lol You do your thing and I'll do mine. I have a "current" license now. Not trying to say you're wrong. Just saying how some people do it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For those LEOs out there that say they don't want anything other than license and/or insurance, well, when I was on active duty I would present my military ID card as well. Not to try and "get out of a ticket" but because my license was "expired" which my state allowed (and the license was still considered valid by the way*) as long as the member was still on active duty. Figured it was easier than handing an "expired" license over, then having the LEO write me a ticket for expired license when it wasn't the case. So, there you go. Sometimes you do need something besides the license and/or insurance. *For those that have never left their home state and are unfamiliar with other states DMVs, some states don't allow you to renew by mail/phone/etc. It has to be done in person. So for people that are serving they just give you a card that explains the license remains valid while member is serving in the armed forces, until the member returns to the home state and has the opportunity to renew the license. That's easily handled by answering my question of, "Do you know your license is expired? Can you provide me an explanation as to why you're driving on an expired license?" lol You do your thing and I'll do mine. I have a "current" license now. My dad had an "Expired" out of state license most of my life. |
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If anyone thinks a cop is gonna get one of those cards handed to him and give someone a break is a fool. Name dropping is an automatic ticket. Quoted:
They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. Somebody hands me a card with "PBA" on it, I'm gonna ask them why they think being a professional bowler is any of my interest. <insert BS flag here> |
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They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. They used to offer a degree of "diplomatic immunity", at least in Nassau County. Pretty much everybody I knew had a shield, card or something they got from a close friend or family member on the job. My mom had a "courtesy shield" (dad was on the job) and I carried a PBA card in my wallet. Would it get you out of a 5 over speeding ticket? Yeah DUI? Maybe (at least back in the day) Dead hooker in the trunk? No ETA: I am not commenting about the "fairness" of this practice, it is just the way things were there. Favoritism only sucks when you aren't on the receiving end of it. Gets you nothing where I live now, my dad showed his retired shield the one time he has been stopped out here. Still got cited (and it was a BS ticket). |
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They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. They used to offer a degree of "diplomatic immunity", at least in Nassau County. Pretty much everybody I knew had a shield, card or something they got from a close friend or family member on the job. My mom had a "courtesy shield" (dad was on the job) and I carried a PBA card in my wallet. Would it get you out of a 5 over speeding ticket? Yeah DUI? Maybe (at least back in the day) Dead hooker in the trunk? No ETA: I am not commenting about the "fairness" of this practice, it is just the way things were there. Favoritism only sucks when you aren't on the receiving end of it. Gets you nothing where I live now, my dad showed his retired shield the one time he has been stopped out here. Still got cited (and it was a BS ticket). Aren't they all? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. They used to offer a degree of "diplomatic immunity", at least in Nassau County. Pretty much everybody I knew had a shield, card or something they got from a close friend or family member on the job. My mom had a "courtesy shield" (dad was on the job) and I carried a PBA card in my wallet. Would it get you out of a 5 over speeding ticket? Yeah DUI? Maybe (at least back in the day) Dead hooker in the trunk? No ETA: I am not commenting about the "fairness" of this practice, it is just the way things were there. Favoritism only sucks when you aren't on the receiving end of it. Gets you nothing where I live now, my dad showed his retired shield the one time he has been stopped out here. Still got cited (and it was a BS ticket). Aren't they all? No. |
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I felt dirty after looking at that website... Attitude works better than any card. Dick with a card = ticket / jail Respectful / realized the mistake = usually a break That's been my technique for years. It's worked about 80 percent of the time. The rest, eh , I earned it may as well get caught up on traffic school Same here. I deserved a ticket everytime I got one. I also deserved a ticket on the vastly higher number of occasions I didn't. I have found that the great majority of police officers I've interacted with had attitudes that were a direct reflection of my own, and they behaved accordingly. I have been amazed at how many times "No sir, I have no excuse for what I did, I had my head up my ass and acted stupidly" has resulted in a 5 minute chat about traffic safety and a "now just slow it down, have a nice day" response. There are a few municipalities in my AO that will never let you off with a warning but, they are a small, small minority and they are well know to the local residents. FWIW, I like that cops have discretionary powers. What I dislike is when they use those powers for certain demographics as a matter of course, instead of a case by case basis. |
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They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. They used to offer a degree of "diplomatic immunity", at least in Nassau County. Pretty much everybody I knew had a shield, card or something they got from a close friend or family member on the job. My mom had a "courtesy shield" (dad was on the job) and I carried a PBA card in my wallet. Would it get you out of a 5 over speeding ticket? Yeah DUI? Maybe (at least back in the day) Dead hooker in the trunk? No ETA: I am not commenting about the "fairness" of this practice, it is just the way things were there. Favoritism only sucks when you aren't on the receiving end of it. Gets you nothing where I live now, my dad showed his retired shield the one time he has been stopped out here. Still got cited (and it was a BS ticket). Aren't they all? No. Illegal U turn. Sign that said "No U turn" mashed flat (face down) against the ground by vandals or car accident. Rather then fix sign, station motorcycle cop at intersection and cite people. Intersection before and after that one allowed U turn (he went back and looked). That kinda bullshit ticket. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. They used to offer a degree of "diplomatic immunity", at least in Nassau County. Pretty much everybody I knew had a shield, card or something they got from a close friend or family member on the job. My mom had a "courtesy shield" (dad was on the job) and I carried a PBA card in my wallet. Would it get you out of a 5 over speeding ticket? Yeah DUI? Maybe (at least back in the day) Dead hooker in the trunk? No ETA: I am not commenting about the "fairness" of this practice, it is just the way things were there. Favoritism only sucks when you aren't on the receiving end of it. Gets you nothing where I live now, my dad showed his retired shield the one time he has been stopped out here. Still got cited (and it was a BS ticket). Aren't they all? No. Illegal U turn. Sign that said "No U turn" mashed flat (face down) against the ground by vandals or car accident. Rather then fix sign, station motorcycle cop at intersection and cite people. Intersection before and after that one allowed U turn (he went back and looked). That kinda bullshit ticket. But, as he asked, not all tickets are BS tickets. |
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"Unless that card is your driver's license, you can just hold on to it. I don't need it."
If anyone thinks a cop is gonna get one of those cards handed to him and give someone a break is a fool. Name dropping is an automatic ticket. Quoted:
They pretty much don't work anymore these days. You can get lucky if you have one from a PBA or if an officer recognizes you. Somebody hands me a card with "PBA" on it, I'm gonna ask them why they think being a professional bowler is any of my interest. Once I was pulled over while carrying - after forking over license and registration, I was fishing around in my wallet for my CPL, which I keep in a different area since it doesnt come out much... anyhow the officer seemed very concerned that I was trying to get money to bribe him and was trying to disengage and there I was insisting that I had something to show him, lol... he was very releived when it was my CPL not a bribe or soemthing.. just a warning and I was on my way.
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