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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:27:52 PM EDT
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@USA1st

is this the one - they are both still there.  I bought one of each.

https://www.eurooptic.com/Bushnell-SMRS-1-65x24-ILL-CQ-BDC-Riflescope-ET71624.aspx
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Thank you very much. I thought they were gone when didn’t see them on the sale list anymore. I just ordered it. Thanks @borat
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:31:08 PM EDT
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Razor Gen III

Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:31:13 PM EDT
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Kahles all things. The new razor III  would be a good option to.
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:31:57 PM EDT
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OST as I’ve got a Steiner P4Xi and a Larue CAN sitting in my closet for two years that I haven’t mounted yet.
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:38:01 PM EDT
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Razor Gen III

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Nice.  Have you had much range time with it?
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:38:40 PM EDT
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Kahles all things. The new razor III  would be a good option to.
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Just straight flexing on us razor III poors.
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:42:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:49:43 PM EDT
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Nice.  Have you had much range time with it?
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A fair amount. Love the scope and the MDR is fun to shoot, but it's only battle rifle accurate - around 1.5 to 2 MOA. Almost used it for a tactical rifle match last weekend, but decided to go with a more accurate rifle.
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:50:19 PM EDT
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No picture because it isn't mounted on anything but I just picked up a Leupold 2.5x20 on here as my first magnified optic. My crummy eyes need all the help they can get! I guess it would be considered a LPFO.

Anyone using a non illuminated LPVO?
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:53:09 PM EDT
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Luv my Elcans, Steiners, and Razors.
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:53:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:54:13 PM EDT
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Trijicon TR24g and Vortex PST2 1-6 on the dedicated 22’s
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 10:54:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 11:52:38 PM EDT
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Thank you very much. I thought they were gone when didn’t see them on the sale list anymore. I just ordered it. Thanks @borat
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@USA1st

I'm a newbie to scopes.  What I'm seeing is that you can use the LPVO at 1x for up close but it's not fast.  I have not mounted the Bushnells or my Primary 1-6 SLX FFPs to rifles yet but their eyeboxes are tight.  The PA is not as tight as the Burris.  

What I am looking fwd to are:
Primary Arms 2x prism

Ordered 6 of those!
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 11:54:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 11:57:58 PM EDT
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the buis thread had me thinking of optics.. and I love me some LPVOs
Anyone mind sharing some pics? What's your favorites?

Leupold 1-8
Vortex 1-10

Bushnell smrs ii pro i just bought for my father, very impressed with it

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@Mop89

I'm new to optics and am glad that you were impressed with the Bushies.  WHen I look at them there seems to be a very tight eyebox, very little latitude side to side and back/front to get a good sight pic.  

Your thoughts?  

Shit, can't beat the price.  I wonder how they can sell the scope that cheap.  $600 and everywhere else it's $1100 I think.

Is there an LPVO that you could really use effectively at 1X, kinda like a red dot?
Link Posted: 10/1/2020 11:58:40 PM EDT
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Kahles K16i 1x6
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Link Posted: 10/2/2020 12:03:42 AM EDT
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Just straight flexing on us razor III poors.
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Lol hardly. I think they're the same price. The razor will be the next one.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 12:04:15 AM EDT
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Got daym. If I didn’t know you actually operate I’d crown you King of the Gear Queers.

Don’t mind me, just being a jealous poor over here

Being serious, what’s the pros/cons of the light on the bottom rifle vs a pressure switch setup?
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 12:16:28 AM EDT
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I’ve got an Elcan and have a Razor Gen III 1-10 on order.

Link Posted: 10/2/2020 12:17:56 AM EDT
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I have a few

@Mop89
was that Bushnell from Eurooptic?
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 12:57:28 AM EDT
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Interesting analogy - please elaborate. I’m currently running a PA ACSS Raptor 1-6 on one of my rifles and I’ve found it to be fantastic for the money. My only complaints are it’s not particularly bright on 1X as a reflex sight (though closing the front cap helps), and, in that same function, you neee to be conscious of scope alignment so you don’t lose the reticle.

Perhaps those 2 are some of your same observations.
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Brightness is one, but glass clarity is the biggest knock. When it came out it was unbeatable in it's price range. That was quite awhile ago though, and glass quality in that market has evolved a lot while the 1-6 ACSS has not. But the Raptor is known for having a slight clarity increase over the normal ACSS.

A daylight bright reticle, crisp glass, and an ocular housing that disappears makes a crazy difference in speed and user friendliness for me. The 1-6 ACSS unfortunately doesn't have any of those.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 7:33:42 AM EDT
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I have a few

@Mop89
was that Bushnell from Eurooptic?
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Yes
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 7:46:05 AM EDT
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I can’t post a pic but I went with the SWFA 1-4x with lighted center point. I have never seen anyone else mention SWFA, I think it’s pretty solid.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 7:49:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2020 8:02:13 AM EDT
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Swampfox Tomahawk 1x6.

LPVO
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 8:12:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2020 8:14:51 AM EDT
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I'm still shopping around

Priorities are:
-daylight bright on 1x
-some form of BDC reticle

I like the ACSS reticle in the PA options, but the daylight brightness isn't there
I like the nuclear bright red dot in the Vortex PST/Razor, but don't really care for the basic crosshair reticle

Link Posted: 10/2/2020 9:04:46 AM EDT
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I'm still shopping around

Priorities are:
-daylight bright on 1x
-some form of BDC reticle

I like the ACSS reticle in the PA options, but the daylight brightness isn't there
I like the nuclear bright red dot in the Vortex PST/Razor, but don't really care for the basic crosshair reticle

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The razors have BDC reticles.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 9:11:37 AM EDT
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The ATACR is really nice
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 9:24:58 AM EDT
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Burris XTR ll 1-5x
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 9:34:27 AM EDT
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Vortex 1-6

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Link Posted: 10/2/2020 9:52:37 AM EDT
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Dark Lord of optics just did a youtube review of one from Delta.  He scored it well. I don't know if it was him or another that hated the Primary Arms LPVO, and loved the 1-10 gen3 vortex.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 9:59:19 AM EDT
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I can’t post a pic but I went with the SWFA 1-4x with lighted center point. I have never seen anyone else mention SWFA, I think it’s pretty solid.
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I've heard from multiple sources that LOW in Japan makes a lot of SWFA's in-house stuff, and LOW makes the Bushnells that are being discussed in this thread. I don't have an SWFA LPVO, but I do have one of their 10x42 scopes and the glass quality is fantastic, definitely worth more than you're paying.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:00:13 AM EDT
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I the non-E with the JM reticle is at Euro for $1150.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:22:26 AM EDT
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Two pre-E razor 1-6.

JM1 reticle is excellent.  Tracks like a precision rifle scope.

Superb glass.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:23:12 AM EDT
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I'm still shopping around

Priorities are:
-daylight bright on 1x
-some form of BDC reticle

I like the ACSS reticle in the PA options, but the daylight brightness isn't there
I like the nuclear bright red dot in the Vortex PST/Razor, but don't really care for the basic crosshair reticle

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Razor JM1
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:29:11 AM EDT
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I need one.

My 3-gun days are probably behind me, so I'm wanting to turn my Open rifle into more of a "do-all" social gun.  I've already replaced the honking muzzle brake and taken off the offset red dot for use on something else.  Right now it's wearing a 2-8 Nikon non-illuminated scope (that will get switched to a bolt gun), I need a good daytime-bright 1-6X, but fuck I'm broke right now.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:32:49 AM EDT
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Brightness is one, but glass clarity is the biggest knock. When it came out it was unbeatable in it's price range. That was quite awhile ago though, and glass quality in that market has evolved a lot while the 1-6 ACSS has not. But the Raptor is known for having a slight clarity increase over the normal ACSS.

A daylight bright reticle, crisp glass, and an ocular housing that disappears makes a crazy difference in speed and user friendliness for me. The 1-6 ACSS unfortunately doesn't have any of those.
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Thanks, olds442tyguy - good explanation and good to know!
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:34:34 AM EDT
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I have a few

@Mop89
was that Bushnell from Eurooptic?
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Thank you.

I was wondering how they looked compared to the Razor's bronze.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:37:45 AM EDT
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OST as I’ve got a Steiner P4Xi and a Larue CAN sitting in my closet for two years that I haven’t mounted yet.
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@FishKepr, my P4Xi shipped with the battery installed. The manual recommends it be removed if the scope is going to be stored for long periods, I assume to prevent damage if the battery leaks. Just a thought if you haven't already pulled it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:38:01 AM EDT
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Anyone have both a Razor 1-6 and the Gen II PST 1-6?  I'm curious how the eye box compares. It's much tighter on the PST than I prefer and have been more thinking about upgrading...but only if there's a significant difference.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 10:51:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2020 12:23:59 PM EDT
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@FishKepr, my P4Xi shipped with the battery installed. The manual recommends it be removed if the scope is going to be stored for long periods, I assume to prevent damage if the battery leaks. Just a thought if you haven't already pulled it.
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I had not actually.  Thank you for the reminder.
Link Posted: 10/2/2020 7:03:55 PM EDT
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I'm still shopping around

Priorities are:
-daylight bright on 1x
-some form of BDC reticle

I like the ACSS reticle in the PA options, but the daylight brightness isn't there
I like the nuclear bright red dot in the Vortex PST/Razor, but don't really care for the basic crosshair reticle

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I'm telling you, look at the bushell smrs ii 1-6.5 at eurooptic right now. They are worth the orignall 1200 price tag IMHO and its an insanely nice scope at 600. I had to say it but I bet the glass gives my vortex 1-10 a run for its money..
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